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    I recently started back at a club I worked at about 2-3 years ago. When I first auditioned the club had been opened about 10 years & never had a black dancer. (I didn't know this until after I was hired)


    fast forward to now,recently there were 2 black girls who wanted to audition. There were also 2 white Girls to audition. The 2 black girls were drop dead gorgeous! I mean from a scale 1-10,they were like a 15. The white girls were about a 5 combined. One of the mgrs comes in the dressing room and straight up says,"I'm not hiring anymore black girls." She let them audition and the other 2,and guess who was hired? It just sucks seeing that bc the black girls were really good far as looks and dancing. Hell one of the white Girls can't even walk in the kitten heels she had on. I tried to talk for them to get hired,but she said no bc that would be too many. -_- There's 5 black girls and about 30 white Girls.


    Idk. I just feel so pissed about this because I've been turned down before bc of my skin tone. It's almost 2017 and people are STILL discriminating against us. And it's not like our clientele doesn't like black women,I've sat with customers & they always ask "where the sisters at?" Lol. Crazy.


    Any typos,I'm on my phone...my bad. Lol
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    I dance in detroit and there are 2 white clubs on 8 mile that have $$$$$$ in them but they are racist. I had a guy . Baby thats the way the game goes. Keep it pushing and find you a different club.
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    It's just so stupid smh,I do great there but I just hate working for openly racists. Ugh

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    This one club I used to work at would hire every single white girl who would come in the door even the ones who were unattractive with shit personalities and no stage, people or hustling skills. One time these two gorgeous black girls came in done up with perfect bodies and the manager sent them home without letting them audition.

    I was like "What the fuck is wrong with that manager they look better than 99 percent of the girls in here!" I expressed my disgust to these girls in the dressing room and asked why the hell the manger turned them down and she said the manager claimed he doesn't hire black girls anymore because they don't do well at that club. They only had one black girl that I knew of who worked day shift and she always banked even on slow nights so I know for a fact that was bullshit, not to mention there were plenty of white girls who couldn't pay their house fees half the time too. I can think of other situations but that one really stood out to me.

    It sucks and it pisses me off every time. I'm sorry you have to go through this kind of bullshit.

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    Well this is the reason why black clubs were created. Plus many black clubs are extremely popular due to rap music and other media. I've been turned away from white clubs before and I look like Meagan Good. Those people are stupid just ignore them.

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    I think it may be more about the atmosphere the club is trying to maintain. For example, most black girls at clubs I've worked at request Trap music/rap for their stage sets. I was in double rotation with a black girl last night and I dance to country now. She came across the stage and was bitching about how she had to dance to country now for my song.

    So as the number of black girls increase, it's likely that more rap will have to be played and that might be off putting to the older crowd hearing a good amount of the music being rap.

    you also must consider that with more black dancers will attract more black customers inevitably. Once this customer base increases, it starts to lean to the "urban club dynamic" . If the club is intended to have the loud rap/ass shaking feel from the start that's fine. But some clubs want to maintain a more reserved/upscale/traditional gentleman's club atmosphere and that's fine too.

    I wouldn't take it personal, like I said there's other factors to consider. I'm sure if a bunch of skinny white girls with no asses who danced to Brittany Spears went to "king of diamonds" the management probably wouldn't want to hire them either. Not because of anything wrong with them, but simply because these type of girls and the customers who generally will go for them don't fit the dynamic of this clubs theme.

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    ^^Man that's some apologist BS right there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    I think it may be more about the atmosphere the club is trying to maintain. For example, most black girls at clubs I've worked at request Trap music/rap for their stage sets. I was in double rotation with a black girl last night and I dance to country now. She came across the stage and was bitching about how she had to dance to country now for my song.

    So as the number of black girls increase, it's likely that more rap will have to be played and that might be off putting to the older crowd hearing a good amount of the music being rap.

    you also must consider that with more black dancers will attract more black customers inevitably. Once this customer base increases, it starts to lean to the "urban club dynamic" . If the club is intended to have the loud rap/ass shaking feel from the start that's fine. But some clubs want to maintain a more reserved/upscale/traditional gentleman's club atmosphere and that's fine too.

    I wouldn't take it personal, like I said there's other factors to consider. I'm sure if a bunch of skinny white girls with no asses who danced to Brittany Spears went to "king of diamonds" the management probably wouldn't want to hire them either. Not because of anything wrong with them, but simply because these type of girls and the customers who generally will go for them don't fit the dynamic of this clubs theme.
    You just minimized the hell out of racism. That one girl who bitched about dancing to country music in your club has nothing to do with what the OP ranted about. And assuming that a black dancer is gonna want to dance to trap music is silly. The only thing that really needs to be done here is to simply listen and respect that those who see and experience racism aren't jumping to conclusions. Also speak out when you see it. I know not all can afford to speak up but its really the first stop in getting away from normalizing this type of behavior.

    Well of course they sent black dancers away.

    No one wants to be labeled as an urban club.

    Black dancers means more black customers.

    Its simply a business decision really.

    That's what black clubs are for.

    Assuming that a club that has multiple black performers can't have an upscale vibe, lord have mercy what did I just read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    I think it may be more about the atmosphere the club is trying to maintain. For example, most black girls at clubs I've worked at request Trap music/rap for their stage sets. I was in double rotation with a black girl last night and I dance to country now. She came across the stage and was bitching about how she had to dance to country now for my song.

    So as the number of black girls increase, it's likely that more rap will have to be played and that might be off putting to the older crowd hearing a good amount of the music being rap.

    you also must consider that with more black dancers will attract more black customers inevitably. Once this customer base increases, it starts to lean to the "urban club dynamic" . If the club is intended to have the loud rap/ass shaking feel from the start that's fine. But some clubs want to maintain a more reserved/upscale/traditional gentleman's club atmosphere and that's fine too.

    I wouldn't take it personal, like I said there's other factors to consider. I'm sure if a bunch of skinny white girls with no asses who danced to Brittany Spears went to "king of diamonds" the management probably wouldn't want to hire them either. Not because of anything wrong with them, but simply because these type of girls and the customers who generally will go for them don't fit the dynamic of this clubs theme.
    I see what u are saying and that is true white clubs have a different atmosphere, clientele, etc that they want to uphold. BUT I WILL DISAGREE with u on ur point of saying urban clubs would turn down the type of girls that work at the white clubs. This totally false. Urban clubs have ALL types of girls, and we accept all types of girls. The thing about urban clubs that alot of ppl/dancers who dont frequent them dont understand is urban clubs accept ALL dancers. Yes we do play only rap/hip hop/r&b but we get all types of clientele, but black men making up about 60% of that clientele on any given night and the other 40% being white men, arab, indian etc. I dance at ace of spades on 8 mile, and silver rain which is THEE BIGGEST urban club in detroit (size wise). My point is urban clubs accept all dancers, we are not like white clubs which have a very SPECIFIC clientele, and only cater to that SPECIFIC clientele; MEANING that white clubs needs a very specific girl.
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    Ive also known a couple of GOOOOOOOOD paying guys to get turned away from going into a this one particular white club. These club owners not only want specific girls, but they want a SPECIFIC clientele regardless of how much money you have. That is the way the game goes thats why i stay in my lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallyn_love View Post
    I see what u are saying and that is true white clubs have a different atmosphere, clientele, etc that they want to uphold. BUT I WILL DISAGREE with u on ur point of saying urban clubs would turn down the type of girls that work at the white clubs. This totally false. Urban clubs have ALL types of girls, and we accept all types of girls. The thing about urban clubs that alot of ppl/dancers who dont frequent them dont understand is urban clubs accept ALL dancers. Yes we do play only rap/hip hop/r&b but we get all types of clientele, but black men making up about 60% of that clientele on any given night and the other 40% being white men, arab, indian etc. I dance at ace of spades on 8 mile, and silver rain which is THEE BIGGEST urban club in detroit (size wise). My point is urban clubs accept all dancers, we are not like white clubs which have a very SPECIFIC clientele, and only cater to that SPECIFIC clientele; MEANING that white clubs needs a very specific girl.
    Yupyup. It's not a matter of if you'll get hired at an urban club, it's just a matter of if you'll make money there once you are hired. White clubs don't usually give black dancers that opportunity.

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    I can't believe it's 2017 and this crap is still happening. Glad I work at a club that doesn't discriminate. We have all races and everyone is beautiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbieNYC View Post
    Yupyup. It's not a matter of if you'll get hired at an urban club, it's just a matter of if you'll make money there once you are hired. White clubs don't usually give black dancers that opportunity.
    This is really true. I've auditioned at a few urban clubs and always got hired but barely made any money because I'm more on the "alternative" side and don't have very good twerk skills so I never stayed at them for longer than a couple of days. Most white clubs don't give black girls a chance to see if they'll make money. Like that one club I described.....they assume black girls won't make any money because one of them didn't so they don't even give them a chance. Hiring a few gorgeous black girls wouldn't have changed the clientele or turned it into a "black club" or any of the other excuses clubs try to use.
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    You just minimized the hell out of racism. That one girl who bitched about dancing to country music in your club has nothing to do with what the OP ranted about. And assuming that a black dancer is gonna want to dance to trap music is silly. The only thing that really needs to be done here is to simply listen and respect that those who see and experience racism aren't jumping to conclusions. Also speak out when you see it. I know not all can afford to speak up but its really the first stop in getting away from normalizing this type of behavior.

    Well of course they sent black dancers away. No one wants to be labeled as an urban club.
    Black dancers means more black customers. Its simply a business decision really.
    That's what black clubs are for.

    Assuming that a club that has multiple black performers can't have an upscale vibe, lord have mercy what did I just read?
    I'm just trying to propose a possible explanation for why clubs hire as they do instead of just being quick to label everyone as a racist. I'm attempting to make OP feel better because it probably isn't them, but because of how the club believes their business model will be precieved.

    In america blacks make up just slightly over 12% of the population. This is the percentage America has come to accept as the norm. For this reason I believe that clubs are attempting to keep their demographic in line with the demographic outside the club so everything feels proportioned as Americans are already accustomed to. So if OP is saying that 30 girls work during a shift, 12% of that is 3.6 so by having 5 black girls the club has a higher percentage of black girls at this club than the rest of America actually.

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    ... So black girl quotas ???
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    Hate to say this but WOC who audition together almost always get rejected together. Always go separately if you can.
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    ^^ these girls didn't audition "together",they happened to come in at the same time. The 2 white Girls were friends.

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    It's so dumb smh

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    No, clubs are just racist. Period. Point blank. That's all there is to it really..This culture celebrates white beauty and upholds it as the "norm". I recommended a black girl I met on here audition at my old club and the manager burst in to the DR to say how dare I recommend an n word come to his club and when I asked what she looked like (I couldn't believe it was just her race he objected to) he went "idk...BLACK" I was so shocked and embarrassed.
    Even at the urban club I danced at (yup, skinny white girl got accepted real quick to an urban club) I remember them saying "wow he usually doesn't hire TWO black girls the same day" when other girls got hired. It just is. I'm white and even I can see it after spending any time at all in this Industry


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    I do think it's sad some people like to discriminate in the exotic dance club scene. Worse is when it's from power positions like management, owners, security. Thankfully I worked in a mixed club and these positions and the dancers came from all "races". So the chances of racism was slimmer than what some ladies here and elsewhere experience.

    Yes it sucks in 2017 some people loooove to discriminate, and even better in their minds, because they know they can.
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    That is exactly what it is! I hate when ppl try to sugarcoat the shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I do think it's sad some people like to discriminate in the exotic dance club scene. Worse is when it's from power positions like management, owners, security. Thankfully I worked in a mixed club and these positions and the dancers came from all "races". So the chances of racism was slimmer than what some ladies here and elsewhere experience.

    Yes it sucks in 2017 some people loooove to discriminate, and even better in their minds, because they know they can.
    Yes, and lately there's this new trend where people are not only going out of their way to be racist/sexist/just plain rude they are PROUD of it! Whether online or in real life at work, school, wherever there's always a douchebag or two bragging about "I am officially anti PC! PC is ruining our country!" Or the assholes who say things along the lines of "I'm not racist I'm just saying the facts." Anyways, I am sorry the OP and other WOC have to deal with this shit. It is so offensive. The clubs basically implying black people will "run the club down" is racist as fuck! Besides there are plenty of snobby white clubs that are BORING and the girls act rude because they think they are all that (not saying all "white" clubs are like this). I know we don't live in Rainbows and Unicorns land, but I just wish clubs would hire girls because of their skills as an entertainer. Does she look good and make the customers feel good? That's really all the matters in the club when it is all said and done.

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    I've auditoned with my biracial BFF and she's been flat out rejected with me being told "Take her to Onyx, we have too many of those already". Not even a personal pronoun. Also she hates most rap music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NakedNicole View Post
    I think it may be more about the atmosphere the club is trying to maintain. For example, most black girls at clubs I've worked at request Trap music/rap for their stage sets. I was in double rotation with a black girl last night and I dance to country now. She came across the stage and was bitching about how she had to dance to country now for my song.

    So as the number of black girls increase, it's likely that more rap will have to be played and that might be off putting to the older crowd hearing a good amount of the music being rap.

    you also must consider that with more black dancers will attract more black customers inevitably. Once this customer base increases, it starts to lean to the "urban club dynamic" . If the club is intended to have the loud rap/ass shaking feel from the start that's fine. But some clubs want to maintain a more reserved/upscale/traditional gentleman's club atmosphere and that's fine too.

    I wouldn't take it personal, like I said there's other factors to consider. I'm sure if a bunch of skinny white girls with no asses who danced to Brittany Spears went to "king of diamonds" the management probably wouldn't want to hire them either. Not because of anything wrong with them, but simply because these type of girls and the customers who generally will go for them don't fit the dynamic of this clubs theme.
    Wow, way to be straight up rascist. We deal with a lot of harmful and dangerous stereotypes in the industry, I don't understand why you'd be so quick to back them up.

    I know a lot of white dancers who are violent, theives, do extras, get bitchy about their music, etc and draw a rough and bad crowd but have never heard of any of them face discrimination, and I know a lot of black and brown dancers that should be at gown clubs, class, elegance, beauty, professionalism, graciousness who are treated to bigotry that dehumanizing and deplorable. It is not okay to perpetuate that racism is okay and makes sense.

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    Yea, don't think I'm being racist... i swear, you can't state any opinion that differes from a black persons without being automatically called a racist lol. Just trying to let you know the other factors that cross managements mind perhaps. Not saying it's necessarily fair or right, but I'm not the one hiring or not hiring. I'm just expressing WHY management might make the choices they do. Don't shoot the messenger.

    Alot of people believe it's skin color alone that people are discriminating against. I don't think it's necessarily true and I'll tell you why. There are Indian people who are of the same if not darker skin tone than African Americans, however Indians although similar in skin tone, dont seem to be experiencing the same alleged racism as as African Americans. If it's darker skin alone that is the issue, I would think that other darker completed races would be expressing that they are encountering the same issues.

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