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    I recently found this article and I think it's hilarious. I shared it in verified awhile ago instead of here because I was afraid that the author may be a member on SW and I dunno, I didn't want to offend. Turns out she doesn't care

    http://brokeassstuart.com/blog/2016/...or-publishing/

    Now I don't agree with every part of the article but for many of us this is what it's like now.

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    Hi everyone!

    I'm the author of the above article. If you dig it, please like and share. If you have a differing opinion, that is cool too! I'm totally open to discussion about this topic. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone who is camming successfully right now - how I could make this artice more dynamic in adressing how camming can also still work as a way of earning extra income?

    I'd love to hear form you

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    Great article, it gave me a good laugh!
    I disagree that you can't make a living exclusively camming though; it's just erratic and sometimes it may just take a little longer to reach that goal. x

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    Honestly, I cringed super hard at this part: "I’d get the guy on Skype and negotiate a price. $[removed] for ten minutes, $[removed] for 20 minutes, $[removed] for 30 minutes etc."

    I realize those are rates from another time period, but they are ungodly low. I'd hate for new cam girls, potential cam girls, or clients to get the idea that that is an appropriate rate scale.
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    I'm not other models, its not slow.

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    Wow! That's good to hear! Because back in 2012 when I was just getting ready to quit camming I could barely get guys to pay that. Everyone wanted a dollar a minute. I'm glad that things have changed.

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    I'd love to hear more about how you can make a living exclusively camming! Is there a way to to do it for younger girls who still want to hide their identity? In any case, it's good to hear that if you're willing to put in the hustle and have enouch zen patience that it's still income option <3

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    I completely agree with you that younger girls probably shouldn't get into camming for the reasons you listed.

    And yes, my experience is not the blanket experience of all cam girls. It's an opinion piece. An OpEd.

    So, how do you do it without having a massive social media presence? What's the secret?

    Also, yes, you're right. Once you show your face on cam you are at risk. But in my experience showing my face on a few cam sites was never as risky as having to create a social media platform to promote myself.

    So without creating that platform, how does one make enough of an income to live off of camming?

    You are correct. It is NOT easy money, and does take effort and skill.

    Maybe I could write a follow up article directed towards people looking to get into camming as to what it actually takes to be successful and what their expectation level should be and I could interview you.

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    Most cam models do not promote their cam personas. They sign up to work on big box cam sites and ride the traffic. Some will do very well. Some will do average. Some will do very poorly. That is the nature of camming. It always has been and always will be. You are either good at getting men to give you money or you are not. I started working in the adult industry because since I was a teenager, men have given me money for being sexy. In my real life I have had men buy me cars, pay for shopping sprees, pay for my rent, pay for spa visits, pay for trips, etc. So I do well in the adult industry because I know how to get men to take care if me financially.

    P.S. That is my rock hard body in my avatar. Men just throw money at it in real life and the virtual world. I'm not sure exactly "what I do" or "how I do" IT. I just love men and they love me back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    Hi everyone!

    I'm the author of the above article. If you dig it, please like and share. If you have a differing opinion, that is cool too! I'm totally open to discussion about this topic. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone who is camming successfully right now - how I could make this artice more dynamic in adressing how camming can also still work as a way of earning extra income?

    I'd love to hear form you

    I'm having trouble figuring out the "how to be successful" part and the "hiding your identity" part

    I have a regular job that pays fine, but isn't full time, so I started camming to supplement it. I found, at first, that I could make $300 week/$1200 month doing 10-12 hours a week, which is a good supplemental income *for me*. However, I don't seem to be making/keeping those consistent fans and now I struggle to make $200 a week. I don't know if camming is still 'for me', if I'm not willing to put in the time (or the self-exposure) to make clips and do social media hustling.

    Ultimately, I would be happier than a clam if I could make $500 a week within 20 hours. Not sure how to make that happen. I am thinking I will try SkyPrivate camming (though not sure who will go there with me, without a big fan base) and also spend less time at my other job in January in order to invest more time on cam and see if I can increase the earnings, or if my time/energy would honestly be best spent in other areas.

    Thank you for the article, Layla, it was thought provoking

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    Also, I will say that most women have not mastered the art of fantasy. The adult entertainment world is ALL about fantasy. You need to create a fantasy persona for yourself AND you need to create a fantasy persona for the customer too. You need to stroke his ego and as long as he is paying you make him feel larger than life. I do this VERY VERY well. Most modern women do not know how to do this for a very extensive amount of time (I have regulars that I've been ego stroking for 8 plus years). If you do not know how to make a man feel like the MOST important thing in your life, your earning potential as an adult entertainment performer might suffer. My mother and my grandmother are expert gold diggers. I watched them do this all my life. If you do this with the right man (men) they will reward you beyond your wildest dreams.
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    I give you props for your talent and skills!

    I have never judged woman negatively who use the phrase "gold digger." More power to you.

    And you are so correct about the adult industry being all about FANTASY. When I was a stripper I was more successful than when I cammed, and I think this is partly due to my mental perspective towards being on a stage. It felt theatrical and much more magical. I felt as if I was able more easily lose myself in a character, a much more sexy version of myself, than in my bedroom.

    I personally can not be that seductive version of myself all the time. Maybe if I could I'd be rich! lol

    What you do takes skill and hard work. To stroke a man's ego for 8 years plus, and to so skillfully create that fantasy for him.


    I do have a serious question, though. Do you ever have a moment where you roll your eyes in your mind? Do you ever tire of telling them what they want to hear? Do you ever have moments when you just want to drop the act? Or do you really enjoy it?

    Again, more power to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetieBitch View Post
    You work for big box sites that provide you with traffic, you take advantage of your "new girl" status, you stick to a consistent schedule and build up regulars. You don't have to have a social media presence to do well. In my experience, I don't convert very many new customers through social media. Most of my followers are people who already know I exist on cam, and who already have customer accounts, so I rarely get the benefit of a social media follower signing up under my referral link anyway. My Twitter is there so I can let my fans know when and where I'll be online, but it's just for convenience, really. They would still find me even if I didn't tweet about it. Some models use social media to promote other sources of income, like selling indie/Skype shows, clips, snapchat, panties, etc. But if you don't want to use social media, you can still use big box platforms to do some or all of that, as long as you're getting paid through their site.



    Eh, I would argue there's a much higher chance that someone you know watches porn and stumbles upon a recorded video of you, than them stumbling on your social media page. Particularly if you don't have very many followers.



    There's no step by step formula for being a successful camgirl. What works for one person might fail for another. And expectations are totally subjective. Some girls are perfectly content as long as they make more than minimum wage, while some girls think a bad night means making less than $100/hour.

    One positive thing I can say about your article is that it's not another sensationalized piece about how camgirls can make millions working a few hours a day. I hope your article makes more girls seriously question getting into this line of work, because we honestly don't need any more articles directed at people "interested in camming."
    Thank you for your thoughtful answers. There really is no "one size fits all" solution. The quandary of web camming fits the old idiom "If it was easy everyone would do it" quite well. And I suppose for the four years that I cammed I was very lucky that no one ever doxxed me or spread recordings of me on my social media that my family would have seen. I personally know a lot of woman in the performing arts (theater, ballet etc) who all have an interest in web camming, but fear it could ruin their chosen careers if "outed". I know a few who still risk it because they make good money. But it is a slippery slope, and as we all know, the money is never a guarantee.

    From writing this article I've actually stumbled across a very low profile group of woman who are computer hackers who also cam. They claim to have professional lives as well, and that camming is a risk to those careers. But they know how to change their IP address and all kinds of tech-savvy stuff . I should talk to them more and maybe write an article on them. They even talked to me a bit about how they are learning to fool face recognition technology. They are based out of Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    Thank you for your thoughtful answers. There really is no "one size fits all" solution. The quandary of web camming fits the old idiom "If it was easy everyone would do it" quite well. And I suppose for the four years that I cammed I was very lucky that no one ever doxxed me or spread recordings of me on my social media that my family would have seen. I personally know a lot of woman in the performing arts (theater, ballet etc) who all have an interest in web camming, but fear it could ruin their chosen careers if "outed". I know a few who still risk it because they make good money. But it is a slippery slope, and as we all know, the money is never a guarantee.

    From writing this article I've actually stumbled across a very low profile group of woman who are computer hackers who also cam. They claim to have professional lives as well, and that camming is a risk to those careers. But they know how to change their IP address and all kinds of tech-savvy stuff . I should talk to them more and maybe write an article on them. They even talked to me a bit about how they are learning to fool face recognition technology. They are based out of Russia.
    I would LOVE to know more about that. Please keep us posted. I think that's fascinating. 

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    See the problem comes when you start injecting your true self and your true feelings into the role you are playing. You need to just become your character and see the customer through her eyes and her eyes alone. I love acting and theatrics so I never tire of the fantasy. The fantasy is actually a fun escape for me as well. I am married, but I have boyfriends and sugar daddies in the virtual world. This fantasy world helps me get away from the day-to-day mundane aspects of real life. I don't watch much television. I create my own soap opera out of my life in adult entertainment.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    I give you props for your talent and skills!

    I have never judged woman negatively who use the phrase "gold digger." More power to you.

    And you are so correct about the adult industry being all about FANTASY. When I was a stripper I was more successful than when I cammed, and I think this is partly due to my mental perspective towards being on a stage. It felt theatrical and much more magical. I felt as if I was able more easily lose myself in a character, a much more sexy version of myself, than in my bedroom.

    I personally can not be that seductive version of myself all the time. Maybe if I could I'd be rich! lol

    What you do takes skill and hard work. To stroke a man's ego for 8 years plus, and to so skillfully create that fantasy for him.


    I do have a serious question, though. Do you ever have a moment where you roll your eyes in your mind? Do you ever tire of telling them what they want to hear? Do you ever have moments when you just want to drop the act? Or do you really enjoy it?

    Again, more power to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaErotica View Post
    See the problem comes when you start injecting your true self and your true feelings into the role you are playing. You need to just become your character and see the customer through her eyes and her eyes alone. I love acting and theatrics so I never tire of the fantasy. The fantasy is actually a fun escape for me as well. I am married, but I have boyfriends and sugar daddies in the virtual world. This fantasy world helps me get away from the day-to-day mundane aspects of real life. I don't watch much television. I create my own soap opera out of my life in adult entertainment.
    That's a really intelligent and excellent answer. I think every woman has dreamed of the life you lead at some point.

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    Layla,
    I would like to add my two cents to this thread. Frankly, you could become a good cam model with great income without a platform. However, cam models need to market themselves a lot. Plus, many cam models need to diversify their income instead of relying one site. Also, there is no one size fits all cam success story Some cam models love making 25,000 per year. While others love making over 6 figures each year Different people got different needs and income desires. Also, your article did not address any cam girl hustle tips.


    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    I completely agree with you that younger girls probably shouldn't get into camming for the reasons you listed.

    And yes, my experience is not the blanket experience of all cam girls. It's an opinion piece. An OpEd.

    So, how do you do it without having a massive social media presence? What's the secret?

    Also, yes, you're right. Once you show your face on cam you are at risk. But in my experience showing my face on a few cam sites was never as risky as having to create a social media platform to promote myself.

    So without creating that platform, how does one make enough of an income to live off of camming?

    You are correct. It is NOT easy money, and does take effort and skill.

    Maybe I could write a follow up article directed towards people looking to get into camming as to what it actually takes to be successful and what their expectation level should be and I could interview you.

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    Yes, I am in the camp of using fantasy and illusions in this industry. Personally, I feel that creating a persona or two can help with making more money in this industry. I never drop my personas when talking to customers because I am illusionist. Reality is not as beautiful nor sensual as fantasy. Actually, I enjoy myself 95 percent of the time in this industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    I give you props for your talent and skills!

    I have never judged woman negatively who use the phrase "gold digger." More power to you.

    And you are so correct about the adult industry being all about FANTASY. When I was a stripper I was more successful than when I cammed, and I think this is partly due to my mental perspective towards being on a stage. It felt theatrical and much more magical. I felt as if I was able more easily lose myself in a character, a much more sexy version of myself, than in my bedroom.

    I personally can not be that seductive version of myself all the time. Maybe if I could I'd be rich! lol

    What you do takes skill and hard work. To stroke a man's ego for 8 years plus, and to so skillfully create that fantasy for him.


    I do have a serious question, though. Do you ever have a moment where you roll your eyes in your mind? Do you ever tire of telling them what they want to hear? Do you ever have moments when you just want to drop the act? Or do you really enjoy it?

    Again, more power to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    Hi everyone!

    I'm the author of the above article. If you dig it, please like and share. If you have a differing opinion, that is cool too! I'm totally open to discussion about this topic. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone who is camming successfully right now - how I could make this artice more dynamic in adressing how camming can also still work as a way of earning extra income?

    I'd love to hear form you
    I liked the article for the most part, mainly as it's a great deterrent for new girls who may be thinking hey easy money you should definitely stick around here, I think you will learn a lot and improve your business no end x
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaLucifera View Post
    Hi everyone!

    I'm the author of the above article. If you dig it, please like and share. If you have a differing opinion, that is cool too! I'm totally open to discussion about this topic. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone who is camming successfully right now - how I could make this artice more dynamic in adressing how camming can also still work as a way of earning extra income?

    I'd love to hear form you
    Please don't. I rather like the way it discourages even more girls to join in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaErotica View Post
    Also, I will say that most women have not mastered the art of fantasy. The adult entertainment world is ALL about fantasy. You need to create a fantasy persona for yourself AND you need to create a fantasy persona for the customer too. You need to stroke his ego and as long as he is paying you make him feel larger than life. I do this VERY VERY well. Most modern women do not know how to do this for a very extensive amount of time. My mother and my grandmother are expert gold diggers. I watched them do this all my life. If you do this with the right man (men) they will reward you beyond your wildest dreams.
    Now THESE are women I'd pay to have a 'sit down' with. Would hang on their every word. AND be taking notes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaErotica View Post
    See the problem comes when you start injecting your true self and your true feelings into the role you are playing. You need to just become your character and see the customer through her eyes and her eyes alone. I love acting and theatrics so I never tire of the fantasy. The fantasy is actually a fun escape for me as well. I am married, but I have boyfriends and sugar daddies in the virtual world. This fantasy world helps me get away from the day-to-day mundane aspects of real life. I don't watch much television. I create my own soap opera out of my life in adult entertainment.
    Agreed! This is what i struggle with the most in camming, the separation of the selves. Im also an escort and with that i find i can pretty much be myself, albeit my best self; happy upbeat caring etc but with camming its a different game and i find it difficult to switch off my 'real' self. I wonder if this can be learned?

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    Miss Cleo,
    You can look at some acting techniques on youtube and that can help you create your persona. In addition, acting courses can help you create a living and breathing persona separate from your true self.

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    Agreed! This is what i struggle with the most in camming, the separation of the selves. Im also an escort and with that i find i can pretty much be myself, albeit my best self; happy upbeat caring etc but with camming its a different game and i find it difficult to switch off my 'real' self. I wonder if this can be learned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Miss Cleo,
    You can look at some acting techniques on youtube and that can help you create your persona. In addition, acting courses can help you create a living and breathing persona separate from your true self.
    Many thanks DonaDiabla great idea. xx

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    im not sure i agree with not putting your real self into your camming persona. after years of off and on camming and a couple years of stripping, i find that now i just want to be completely 100% myself. i have recently realized that when i play a role, im doing things that wouldnt make my real self happy or turned on or anything. yeah, of course money is money, and sometimes there is no choice, and you're not in a position to say no to money etc, but for the sake of this topic...i like to be myself. i have started to feel the effects of disaccosiation, and it sucks. in 2017, id like to be more real and say no more. (& i dont mean doing things out of comfort zone, i strictly mean pretending) Maybe this is a little far fetched, but i would like to get paid just for simply being me. THUS--i totally get this article of the death of the camgirl next door. it doesnt seem like a viable option...and hasnt for a really long time. but honestly, im sick of playing into the customers fantasy....i want my own...and hopefully i can attract some neat peoples to my room by just being me. maybe the girl next door is so retro it can have a comeback?

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    oh damn..i meant to spell check *** dissociation

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