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    Oh Rick, I wanted to add that your favorites in the northeast clubs might have been used to your tone and actions. This could be a cultural thing as well. However, I believe in your new city...they might not be used to your icy demeanor. They might think that you do not like them and it hurt their feelings. Just be more gentle at your new club


    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I did not cross post it. Frankly, I doubt that most of the responses I would have seen from that bunch would have been very useful.

    But I do want to be clear about something. I do not hard sell girls that I take OTC. I just try to make it very easy for them to say yes. This includes these girls, who continued to approach me even after they initially said no on previous visits. It's difficult to adequately outline all of the nuances of these interactions in a discussion like this, but suffice it to say that these were evolving situations with active participants on both sides. Now maybe none of that excuses the predatory nature of some of what I do, especially on the timing front, but I really didn't expect reactions like this. I never had these problems in northeast clubs with the Italian, Russian and Latina girls that I used to do the same thing with, nor did I experience any of the other problems that I have run into down here. I won't pretend to understand why things are so different now, but there it is.

    Anyway, thanks for all of your input throughout this thread. You and many others have given me some things to chew on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    That first one possible troll thread yes but that second thread is very relevant.

    That past tuscl thread Shows you doing the same currently:
    1) getting p4p action dirt cheap like mentioned earlier as to why claim it cost more than an escort when it does not

    That comment was a comparison to OTC costs in the northeast, not the cost of escorts here. Guys are getting escorts here for $100 to 150 here, which is certainly less than I pay strippers here to go OTC

    2) you know those women aren't going to talk amongst themselves so if you behave unsavory there is nothing they can do. Who are they going to tell??? They can't be like hey ladies rick Dugan fucked me over girl avoid him. Hence one reason why you prefer this set up over the checks and balances of the escort world

    Here you go again with these "checks and balances" comments. See previous post on the topic.

    3) you are aware the women get attached to you when you said "it creates ownership issues in the club"

    This was not what was happening here.

    Lol @ you "stroking" the managers. Seriously now.
    Again, out of context. My responses are above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Those guys are hardcore and they're bottom feeders so most times their opinions are worthless. However the guys do go ham on rick Dugan over there on tuscl. I won't repeat the names I've seen them call him but they have questioned his manhood https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=47251

    Oh and ricks savage otc hustle explained. https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=31127
    Ouch, they are pretty brutal over there. I think I'd change my handle. Thanks for the links. Gave me a smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Well, I'm probably not the one who should speak to this, but men have been F'n us over since the dawn of time (& yea, vice versa)..
    This right here. Thanks for including the vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    That first one possible troll thread yes but that second thread is very relevant.

    That past tuscl thread Shows you doing the same currently:
    1) getting p4p action dirt cheap like mentioned earlier when you claim it cost more than an escort when it does not
    2) you know those women aren't going to talk amongst themselves so if you behave unsavory there is nothing they can do. Who are they going to tell??? They can't be like hey ladies rick Dugans acted like a douche toward me girl avoid him. Hence one reason why you prefer this set up over the checks and balances of the escort world
    3) you are aware the women get attached to you when you said "it creates ownership issues in the club"

    Lol @ you "stroking" the managers
    You are on fire tonight miss

    I'm not sure why he is even talking to managers. Never, ever had to do that to arrange an OTC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    "October 8, 2016 • After missing Friday shifts due to weather and power outages, there have to be some hungry strippers right now in NE and central Florida. Even better, with so many guys who still have more pressing issues to manage (such as guys with families who have no power or those dealing with cleanup), I am wondering if conditions are ripe for new OTC engagements or even dicier ITC activities. For those of you who can get to clubs in affected areas, I suspect that tonight could be interesting."
    -Rick Dugan TUSCL

    Come on Rick, this is a predatory way to do OTC. There are girls that WILL do it. You don't need to wait till they're in a financial bind to snake your way in there. You're better than this. But, at least you feel guilty.
    Exactly. What a prince.

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    Oh boy that site! for every yin there is a bitter yang, I miss the old days when real men bragged about attractive women wanting to have sex for free, now the bitter sphere is bragging about paying for it. Next thing you know they will be bragging about their right hand or sexbots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genoveve View Post
    Omg this is cracking me up. I would be scandalized............if it wasn't for the fact that this dude had my skin crawling from the gate.
    Ok now G, since my activities have clearly grated against your very delicate sensitivities, as you have made quite clear in multiple snarky posts, then perhaps this could be your chance for contribute something other than goofy insults...

    When you were dancing, would you have turned away a customer's money if he seemed hesitant to give it to you? What if you knew he was spending so much only because he was lonely and/or emotionally weak and couldn't seem to resist your hustle? Would you refuse his money if it took two or three tries to get it from him? What if you had reason to question whether he could really afford to spend it on you?

    If your answers to those questions were NO, and I suspect that to be the case, then how was that brand of predatory behavior more noble than what I described here? I am legitimately curious about the thought processes of you and other ladies who choose to respond to this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Ok now G, since my activities have clearly grated against your very delicate sensitivities, as you have made quite clear in multiple snarky posts, then perhaps this could be your chance for you to contribute something other than goofy insults...

    When you were dancing, would you have turned away a customer's money if he seemed hesitant to give it to you? What if you knew he was spending so much only because he was lonely and/or emotionally weak and couldn't seem to resist your hustle? Would you refuse his money if it took two or three tries to get it from him? What if you had reason to question whether he could really afford to spend it on you?

    If your answers to those questions were NO, and I suspect that to be the case, then how was that brand of predatory behavior more noble than what I described here? I am legitimately curious about the thought processes of you and other ladies who choose to respond to this.
    I'm flattered that you think I'm delicate, that's a first for me. But your questions are not applicable to me because I am not a hustler and have never been, I have always relied on guys who approach me and hand me money. I personally do not believe in having to convince someone to spend money on me, either you want to or you don't IMO. I'm the same on cam. And I also don't happen to approve of uber-manipulative stripper tactics. So nice try to turn things around on me again but no, I am not like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    When you were dancing, would you have turned away a customer's money if he seemed hesitant to give it to you? What if you knew he was spending so much only because he was lonely and/or emotionally weak and couldn't seem to resist your hustle? Would you refuse his money if it took two or three tries to get it from him? What if you had reason to question whether he could really afford to spend it on you?

    If your answers to those questions were NO, and I suspect that to be the case, then how was that brand of predatory behavior more noble than what I described here? I am legitimately curious about the thought processes of you and other ladies who choose to respond to this.
    The difference is that strippers don't intentionally "seek out" weak or poor men in order to make money. We go for the rich guys who are more than willing and happy to pay us for giving them a good time. The hesitant man takes too much time and energy to hustle. If I get a "no" from a guy, I move on. It's simple. If he seems too broke, I move on. As far as being emotionally "weak" to resist a hustle, I don't look at it that way. Men come to strip clubs to have a good time. If they are too weak to resist hustles, that's not really my problem, is it? Same thing applies to the shopaholic woman who goes into a clothing store and spends $1,000 on clothes. Would the store clerk stop and ask her, "Ma'am, are you sure you want to buy all this clothing? You seem to be in a frantic state and aren't making a rational decision." Fuck, no. The store clerk just rings her up, and that's that.

    You, on the other hand, intentionally go after desperate strippers because you seem to get off to it, or because it's easier for you to get things out of them. That's the difference. But, hey, whatever man.

    Why did you make this thread in the first place? In order to feel validated and told that you shouldn't feel guilty? Or to just complain and rant about emotional strippers? If you feel any guilt whatsoever, just stop going after desperate strippers. If you don't feel any guilt at all, then keep doing what you're doing, but stop complaining about the outcome. There are plenty of men out there just like you. Strippers come across all kinds of types sooner or later....and strip club customers will come across all types of strippers sooner or later as well. It is what it is. I think you should just let this go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    The difference is that strippers don't intentionally "seek out" weak or poor men in order to make money.
    Agreed. I mean, if you are the kind of stripper who purposely gets men as incoherently drunk as possible so you can get them to do things with their credit cards that in their proper state of mind they would never do, then I would put them in the OP's camp. But strippers going around trying to sell their company and lapdances in a club that exists specifically for that purpose to men that are in there knowing that that's its purpose? There is no comparison to be made to the OP's methodology IMO.

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    Rick seems a little more "himself" on that other site which is understandable. I think going back to the original question maybe you are getting a little too cold about these girls. Honestly, kudos to you if you started this thread legitimately to get insight to your question and use it to be a "better person" or more sympathetic. The one that stuck out to me is in the hotel after the deed. Unlesss this girl is using that regret (?) as a hustle it's pretty cold to not feel some sympathy for her situation in THAT moment. And by cold I don't mean wrong, I just mean too detached from any real emotions at the time. It's a fine line to walk when you're trying to keep emotions out of the arrangement but when a situation like that happens and you believe it's genuine, you gotta feel something.

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    Well this thread has inspired me. To smoke some weed. Then come back. In case anyone gives a shit I quit smoking week 13 years ago. Maybe my cousin has some edibles. No one leave.
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    ^LOL! This thread has stressed you out that much?? GURL.
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    ^^Lol I have the opposite problem. I was drinking coffee after 9pm tonight SO I'M WIRED. I swear to God Starbuck's cold brew is like bath salts. And I love it.

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    Damnit, now I want a Starbucks latte and weed.
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    ^^Yasssssssssssss girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djoser View Post
    The business is predatory. To an extraordinary degree.
    Doesn't make it acceptable nor some of the tactics used justifiable. On both sides.

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    This thread (except the ladies)


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    Who else is now going through Ricks comment history on TUSCL

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    The difference is that strippers don't intentionally "seek out" weak or poor men in order to make money. We go for the rich guys who are more than willing and happy to pay us for giving them a good time. The hesitant man takes too much time and energy to hustle. If I get a "no" from a guy, I move on. It's simple. If he seems too broke, I move on. As far as being emotionally "weak" to resist a hustle, I don't look at it that way. Men come to strip clubs to have a good time. If they are too weak to resist hustles, that's not really my problem, is it? Same thing applies to the shopaholic woman who goes into a clothing store and spends $1,000 on clothes. Would the store clerk stop and ask her, "Ma'am, are you sure you want to buy all this clothing? You seem to be in a frantic state and aren't making a rational decision." Fuck, no. The store clerk just rings her up, and that's that.

    You, on the other hand, intentionally go after desperate strippers because you seem to get off to it, or because it's easier for you to get things out of them. That's the difference. But, hey, whatever man.

    Why did you make this thread in the first place? In order to feel validated and told that you shouldn't feel guilty? Or to just complain and rant about emotional strippers? If you feel any guilt whatsoever, just stop going after desperate strippers. If you don't feel any guilt at all, then keep doing what you're doing, but stop complaining about the outcome. There are plenty of men out there just like you. Strippers come across all kinds of types sooner or later....and strip club customers will come across all types of strippers sooner or later as well. It is what it is. I think you should just let this go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    Why did you make this thread in the first place? In order to feel validated and told that you shouldn't feel guilty? Or to just complain and rant about emotional strippers? If you feel any guilt whatsoever, just stop going after desperate strippers. If you don't feel any guilt at all, then keep doing what you're doing, but stop complaining about the outcome. There are plenty of men out there just like you. Strippers come across all kinds of types sooner or later....and strip club customers will come across all types of strippers sooner or later as well. It is what it is. I think you should just let this go.
    Honestly, just to flesh out my conflicting thoughts about all of this out further, which this thread has actually helped with. As highlighted in a pink post last night, I bitched about this in the locker room over on tuscl when it was just the first two. But the third one happened about a week later and it really made me pause. I haven't been in the clubs for over 3 weeks now, which is a very long time for me, as I try to sort this out.

    In any event, thanks to you and everyone else for the input.

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    Well this thread has inspired me. To smoke some weed. Then come back. In case anyone gives a shit I quit smoking week 13 years ago. Maybe my cousin has some edibles. No one leave.
    This is classic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tookewl View Post
    Doesn't make it acceptable nor some of the tactics used justifiable. On both sides.
    Never said it did.

    Trust me, if i think a guy is a pimp trying to recruit girls in my club, there's going to be trouble for him.

    He he was fucking with three steroid types a couple weeks ago in my favorite hangout (never worked there which is why I like it), because one of them beats his women. He knew exactly what I was doing because I was standing right next to him at the bar telling the dancers he beats women, and I am not a quiet guy. Probably not too smart of me because of the odds, but they didn't do jack.

    So, I'm not so jaded as to think nothing of people fucking each other over for sex, money, drugs, etc. But the myriad ways men and women manipulate each other in the club (or for later meetings OTC) are too pervasive to try and curtail.

    These clubs are not for the weak. There are many weak customers, there are some weak dancers. If I worried about all the weak ones and the various ways they might have gotten or might get fucked over, I'd never sleep.
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