No even the wife ain't fucking for free....but I bet she works hard for every dollar
1. She has His legal and public commitment
2. She's a stay at home mom so he pays her bills
3. If he left or she left - she will take half his assets
No even the wife ain't fucking for free....but I bet she works hard for every dollar
1. She has His legal and public commitment
2. She's a stay at home mom so he pays her bills
3. If he left or she left - she will take half his assets
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”





MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt





MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt





Imagine that the wife is either really stupid or she just doesn't give a shit what he does, so long as she gets the perks. I've seen that happen a lot. I don't think that the OP's issues would be fixed by becoming more attractive or anything, he is a sadist and so his psychological issues must run very deep, probably all the way back to childhood. During my 'reading' I saw what I felt were multiple references to his fabulous personal life, which I don't buy. People who are happy and fulfilled and well-adjusted don't do what he does. This post where he attempts again to rationalize his creepy behavior cracked me up:
Have I turned pity hustles into earning opportunities, ESPECIALLY when I sensed some truth behind the hustle? Hell yes. Have I timed club visits for times when girls' cash needs were likely to be higher? You better believe it. Have I waited for girls who I really wanted, but who were initially reluctant to do OTC, to become more comfortable with me and to hit some moment when their need for cash outweighed their reluctance? You betcha - I have found some of my best low volume, hot as hell girl next door OTC this way.
You view this as predatory while I view this as opportunistic.
I think he forgets that.....................predators are opportunists.
I'm sure this dude is probably going to come on here and say that all of our hypothesizing about his mental state is ridiculous, but I mean he has literally written at length about his psychological inner workings so I don't think it's ridiculous at all.





Through pride we are ever deceiving ourselves. But deep down below the surface of the average conscience a still, small voice says to us, something is out of tune.
— C.G. Jung
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt



I disagree, I see it every day though, you are not privy to the locker-room conversation. Men beg for approval from other men in many ways, two in particular are 1) either working hard on bettering themselves, 2) or haggling for predatory deals to "prove" they are superior than the girls. One is deeply insecure and sadist, the other is admirable and time/money consuming, lets get him out off the club first!
His entire personality can change overnight, if he just removes the baggage of insecurity.
The contrast between his posts here and on the other site, approach a bizarre Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde kind of difference. Thanks for posting them Genoveve. They are both fascinating and troubling. Wow.





Wolves may lurk in every guise / Now as then, 'tis simple truth / Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth.



Yup, specially if they post online to their little sycophants. I have my two circle of friends, the work friends that are more or less normal people, and the jocks that one up each other to "appear" Alpha. The only way I ever found to control the latter is by belittling them for being con artists, and not the real deal.
He will eventually put me on ignore, but not all of you, if he shows up again remind him that he is fake, that his achievements mean little. That will do more to affect behavior than just saying "gross".
That and a blacklist if it exists.




"Nobody has to sleep on the street anymore who doesn't want to"
Yup, ok, DONE. Out of touch privileged excuses for bad behaviour. I can assure him that's not a true statement but w/e helps him sleep at night.
I've done business with men who think I'm as silly as I look; by the time they figure out I'm not, I've done got the money and gone -Dolly Parton
a motherfukin hustler kamikaze//I used to bus tables but now I sell my body
Where is Chris Hansen at when you need him? Featuring Rick Dugans in --- "To Catch A Predator" (OTC Strip Club Style).
I truly believe he is beyond locker room talk and actually DOING these things he's posting and bragging about. This is how he really thinks And acts. He sugar coats his post on stripper web because some people actually meet up in real life and that's part of his game. Be fake nice to dancer on stripper web just in case he has the opportunity to run his slick "wait like a snake in the grass" hustle on them.
Actually Genoveve is like a female Chris Hansen and reading the script HE typed word for word thus catching his ass red handed.
“Cook for him like a housewife, fuck him good like a nympho….pay the rent and the car note, he invests in me like crypto”






Your right Red Pillars and MRAs are very separate groups who rarely get along. Still MRAs end up getting blamed for Red Pillars bullshit. So thank you for acknowledging the difference.
As for the OP, the first chick got possessive, not your felt unless you promised her a romantic relationship, second chick needs to make piece with her choices or go into different work, again not your fault, and the last one, just tell her you understand no hard feelings.
Also if these are hot chicks working at a strip club there is no way they should be THAT broke and desperate, many of these ladies on hear manage to make living without extras even in this economy.
So that raises a red flag for me, I think they might be trying to manipulate you. I don't mean to be cruel or dark , but it's not unheard of for some, not most, but some women to use tears to manipulate men. Female tears actually cause chemical changes in men.



"Have I turned pity hustles into earning opportunities, ESPECIALLY when I sensed some truth behind the hustle? Hell yes. Have I timed club visits for times when girls' cash needs were likely to be higher? You better believe it. Have I waited for girls who I really wanted, but who were initially reluctant to do OTC, to become more comfortable with me and to hit some moment when their need for cash outweighed their reluctance? You betcha - I have found some of my best low volume, hot as hell girl next door OTC this way."
Okay I should have read further into the thread, that is somewhat manipulative, more then I'd be comfortable with.
I've seen way worse on TUSCL, I forget who started it but there was once a thread about lying to get girls into bed and Dugan was one who promised ongoing SD-like arrangements he knew would never happen, future international travel, more money per encounter in the future if he liked her and so on.
"There are different kinds of darkness. There is darkness that frightens, the darkness that soothes, the darkness that is restful. There is the darkness of lovers, and the darkness of assassins. It becomes what the bearer wishes it to be, needs it to be. It is not wholly bad or good."
- The Court of Mist and Fury





That was all very dramatic.
To all of that I ask: And?
The fact that I also post on tuscl is not exactly a revelation to most around here. I have been posting on both sites for years. There is also nothing inconsistent about my posts on the two sites - I just talk about different things on each. In fact, if you comb through my posts in the Junkie Forum on this site, you will see some references to some of the same concepts that were raised as shocking revelations in my tuscl posts. Tuscl is just the customer version of Hustle Hut and I tend to be more blunt there. Well, as we tell any blue who comes on here and whines about what he reads in Hustle Hut, if you can't cope with the unvarnished realities that you see behind the curtain, the don't look.
As far as my intentions in posting this, asked and answered several times now. The ladies who so diligently combed through my tuscl posts must have failed to see a more recent comment I posted there about this, where I indicated that the third one was what really made me feel bad and was probably where I felt like I stepped into uncomfortable territory.
Of course I am leveraging money and timing to my best advantage. It's amazing that something that is so commonplace in the clubs seems to be so shocking to a few ex-dancers on here, but it is what is it I suppose. I won't debate the relative morality of this any further because it won't accomplish anything positive. But I do wonder if anyone here actually believes that going without rent, grocery money, electricity, a phone, etc., would have been a better outcome than choosing to earn it OTC. They certainly didn't believe so or else they wouldn't have done it. In fact, most who I've taken out once choose to repeat and some have become long-term "friends."
As far as some of the snarkier comments go, let's keep it civil. You'll notice that I have, despite ample ammunition from a number of melodramatic comments.
As to why I do what I do, the answer is simple: It is the simplest and most discreet way for me to have other adult fun without blowback to my household. Other methods (mistresses, escorts, etc.) come with complications and/or risks that I am unwilling to bear. Read into that what you will, but there it is.





^ You're out of line G and you have been in several posts now. If you want to debate the ethics or morality of what I do then so be it, but please put on your big girl pants and exercise a little emotional control. This is Customer Conversation on an adult industry forum and you're bound to see things here from time to time that you don't like. The posting rules that we all abide by on this site exist for a reason, which is to keep these conversations from degenerating into posts just like that one.





Pretty sure I've done that for pages now.
Not sure how accurately labeling you calmly is me being emotionally out-of-control but whatevs. If you don't want to be referred to as a creep maybe don't come on message boards and write post after post after post after post about your creepy, predatory behavior.





Update: I added this guy to my ignore list. I definitely know all I need to know and also I really don't believe in interacting with weirdos unless I'm getting paid.
ETA:
Banished to the cornfield.
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If binge posting and snarky comments, including derogatory personal labels, were your version of "calm" then I'd be fascinated to see what "agitated" looks like for you.
Edit: This comment and the one above about being added to G's ignore list were cross posted. Being on her ignore list is probably for the best.
Last edited by rickdugan; 01-08-2017 at 10:22 PM.
God what a gross fucker.




But he's keeping it civil and not being dramatic! Do you realise how lucky you are, ladies?
Truly disgusting thread...
Last edited by JessaJade; 01-09-2017 at 03:32 AM.
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