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    I'm 39 years old, 6'2" 175 lb guy living in Cincinatti Ohio currently unemployed. Im interested in becoming a bouncer. I know my chances of becoming a bouncer are slim. But I will take them. Im still a little too small I need about 10 - 20 more lbs of muscle but Im in alright shape right now. I bench 135 lbs, can run a mile, do a mile in 12 minutes, and curl. I also did walking. A couple of questions about the job. How much do bouncers make on average or whats an estimate do they make weekly? Whats the negatives about the job besides the obvious? Whats the positves about being a bouncer. And is there anything else I should know? How hard is it? Do you get fired/easily replaced?

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    I am a little bit taller but you should be clearing 200 lb at least from personal experience, I am not super ripped... but intermediate.

    That said I think they want somebody that can deescalate verbally, being physical as an absolute last resort. I can't remember the last time I failed to deescalate anyone, maybe highschool.

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    At my club it seems they choose floor hosts more on attitude than physical presence. They want someone who can schmooze with the guests but be imposing and get tough when necessary. That said, we always have at least 4+ hosts on staff (usually many more) and they're all on a walkie-talkie system, so the strength of a group negates each individual needing to be too tough.
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    Size is less important than being professional and non-creepy. At the club I work most often here they have everybody from a huuuuuge 300lb former football player to a girl that maybe weighs 120lbs. It's very rare that you actually have a fight break out in a good club and need that size, since good security staff should be defusing those situations before they even happen.

    In a strip club setting, a big chunk of your job should be making sure nobody is taking videos of girls on stage, keeping hands to themselves, that sort of thing.

    I'm not sure what bouncers make but many at this club have been doing it for a long time so it must be "enough" in any case.

    The thing that will get you fired instantly (at a good club anyways) is creeping on the dancers. Do your job, don't send anybody pictures of your dick, and you should be able to work for basically as long as you want.

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    my now hubby use to make any where from 20 to 200 .. He had to split tips where he was at with the other bouncers. Just like our money is unknown day to day- so is yours.. Cuz I know if I didn't make shit that day, I'm not tipping. I don't get a shift pay like the rest of the employees do

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    Go for it. Honestly bar backing might pay better...

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    Another thing you could consider would be driver/bouncer to private party (bachelor parties). You drive the girl(s) & watch them @ the party, help serve drinks/beer etc. It will most likely (but not always) be much more intense cause you're in a private home or private bar room.
    You could also be a driver for escorts, but that does carry a risk to you if they get busted.
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    Depends very much on the club.

    The club I work now, you can get fired so easily for punching someone or hurting them somehow trying to get them out, even if they are begging for it. But I worked another club for years where the bouncers were given two weeks, then they had to prove themselves by fucking someone up, i mean serious hospital type damage. That place was kinda rough he he.

    Even in a 'civilized' club you can get into serious trouble real fast, without doing much of anything to someone. Guys who get thrown out will wait til you close and come at you with guns, or just deranged steroid/drug/alcohol rage. Lost one of my best friends because a couple of Columbian gang members got thrown out, and he had NOTHING to do with it, he was the DJ and just riding as passenger of the car driven by the assistant manager/bouncer they were trying to kill (who survived 4 gunshots himself & should have died).

    I personally came close to having my ass handed to me about a month ago, when a steroid kickboxing instructor drunk off his ass ambushed us as we were leaving the club. I never laid a hand on the guy, just watched him being thrown out. He caught me trying to take off my backpack after he knocked one of the bouncers off his scooter. Not sure how it would have turned out if one of his friends hadn't stepped in as we were scuffling. I'm no pussy, but I was embarassingly unprepared to be attacked by a guy I never messed with, and therefore he had the advantage. Not to mention he outweighed me by 60-70 pounds. Next time there is trouble like that, I'm carrying the backpack out the side exit, not wearing it.

    So...ALWAYS be prepared. And fuck weightlifting. Take up boxing or even better wrestling, or martial arts with that emphasis. However the vast majority of trouble is far better and more easily handled by talking the guy(s) out the door. The best bouncers rarely have to use force.
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    One thing you should do if you get any security job is make sure you are familiar with local laws that you may have to use in the course of your duties. In your case these include things like what constituents acceptable use of force, what powers do you have to remove trespassers, when are you allowed to make a citizen's arrest, what are your responsibilities under your local liquor laws and are there any special rules that apply specifically to strip clubs. Some establishments do a good job in training their security staff but others don't. If you wind up working for a place that doesn't give you a lot of training in this kind of thing then it would be a good idea to do your own research. After all if a situation goes side ways and the police get involved or the matter winds up in court you will need to be able to legally justify why you took the actions you did. Getting this wrong can land you in jail or on the wrong side of a large lawsuit.

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    It's been ages since anyone hired me to bounce (because I'm not looking ). I floor manage for my own private parties now after retiring as a police detective in NYC for 25 years. The guys I hire are all retired NYPD and I pay them well.

    Size doesn't matter. The ability to think tactically does. Best tool you could have is a quick mind and to have studied some jujitsu or Brazilian grappling. Some methodology that has at its base the art of redirecting your opponent's efforts against himself. I prefer aikido ninjutsu myself.

    That said first and foremost required of a good bouncer is the ability to think fast on your feet. To size up any negative situation immediately and decide the best course of action to defuse/resolve it. Your primary responsibility is to the person(s) who pays you. That will be ownership. Understand that. It's not the dancers, the DJ, even the house mom. You are there to protect the owner's investment. You do that best by taking into account ownership's liability as the prime directive. You are there to protect their bar license first because if the ABC (or your local equivalent) closes the place everyone is out of work (at least for awhile) and ownership is making no money. If they lose the license they could be out as much as a cool mil. That's what bar licenses are worth in these parts.

    After that protect your own ass and that of those you work with. You do that by cooling situations that avoid fights as opposed to winning them. Only as a very last resort do you throw down. You'll find that if you fail to do so you may be in a jurisdiction where law enforcement doesn't give a crap that you're a bouncer handling a problem where you work. Especially if it's a strip-club. They'll slap cuffs on you and the problem child you were dealing with and bring you both in. It lessens their liability. Especially if they write the club on an ABC violation.

    It's not like the old days for bouncing. Pay sucks now more than ever. Around here you can expect around $12/hr max or even a flat $40 for 8 hours with tips provided by the dancers above that. I've seen places that pay nothing at all directly and two bouncers entire pay coming from $20 tip in from 6-8 dancer on a shift. $160 max split two ways. It's not worth it. Especially since a lot of average places expect you to dust bust and restock at closing as well (porter) besides bouncing. Like I said, it's not like the old days. Ownership wants a lot for very little.

    I don't suggest it, as with little to no experience you're not going to get a job (without an in) at any sort of decent club that pays at the higher end of the spectrum. It's going to be a place with a pay set up like I described above. Good luck though.
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    Why not just start DJing at a gentleman's club. It's a better job.

    You need to be “responsible” and “not-creepy,” two qualities that are evidently hard to come by when filling a DJ position. Once hired you visit the club, learn the computer system used to jockey the music, and gain ease and comfort on the microphone. Your job, besides programming the soundtrack for the humping and hithering throughout the night and late afternoon, is to introduce each girl on and off the stage, announce the dance specials at the top of every hour, and conduct the dance mash-ups that take place at the bottom of each hour. It usually pays $10 an hour, plus tips.

    Your tasks would be: the computer program is the modern DJ’s turntable. Each song has to be manually uploaded with the mouse, no more than one song in advance. There’s a dual deck CD player. Sometimes you can use the automatic mixers and sometimes you have to fade the songs in and out manually. Some tracks are taken from MP3s and some from CDs, so volumes vary and need constant adjustments. Your duties: put the girl on the stage, take her off the stage, announce “Top of the Hour” specials, “Bottom of the Hour” specials, change the light show for each. Each girl gets a few dances per round. If, early in your shift, only a few girls have arrived, then you're to play “break songs” between dancers, allowing the stage to remain empty so the girls don’t get worn out. Some clubs use a smoke machine. On top of your ten dollars an hour, your pay includes a percentage of money from the VIP Room dances paid to you by the bouncers and tips from each of the girls at the end of every shift. You have to call the girls to the booth and ask them for “some DJ love” or they’ll never offer a cent. Plus, you sometimes get one free shift drink.

    It’s easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breedancer View Post
    It’s easy.


    Great post--except this part. Not in the clubs I've been working the past 10 years. I've never worked so hard in my life--other than a couple physical labor type jobs in college anyway.
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    Every good bouncer I've had has been either a fighter or has had extensive experience bouncing beforehand. One of my favorites is a professional power lifter. Most of our guys have been fucking huge and intimidating but able to defuse situations with customers and dancers. The ability to restrain someone without hurting them is important because you will have to break up fights between dancers. And yeah, you have to keep your dick out of the dressing room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    Every good bouncer I've had has been either a fighter or has had extensive experience bouncing beforehand. One of my favorites is a professional power lifter. Most of our guys have been fucking huge and intimidating but able to defuse situations with customers and dancers. The ability to restrain someone without hurting them is important because you will have to break up fights between dancers. And yeah, you have to keep your dick out of the dressing room.
    Like you implied above, as long as muscled body doesn't also mean muscle brained that works. I was a big fellow back in the day (power lifter, wrestler in HS and college, etc) and I found for me it only worked as a deterrent up to a point, and deterrence is it's only real value. Once someone decided they didn't give a crap about my size brains became a lot more important than muscle. Because muscle only works if it gets physical, and the whole idea is to not let it get to that point.

    Regarding the rest, all the common sense stuff that applies to any work environment applies to working in a club. Good rule of thumb I found is if it would land you in the HR department in some office work place you shouldn't do it working in a strip-club either. The problem is that lots of people who work in clubs are really young with little real world work experience. All manner of fucking around (including actual fucking around), drugs, bending common sense rules for profit, or even chuckles, becomes an issue. As a "custie" I love that crap. It's the root cause of the "edgy" that lets them think (and sometimes realize) the fantasy as reality. As far as actual work goes though that virtual fantasy should stay virtual. Anything else is drama, drama, drama, and drama equals headaches. Strip-clubs are a business. Top down, if everyone working treats it like that things work better and everyone gets paid.

    I found three short, sweet, rules that covered just about everything. 1) Don't do anything that threatens the club's ability to stay open. 2) Don't do anything that gives management a headache (when I was management that meant me, and when I was a bouncer I dearly appreciated anyone else in the club that included the bouncers in that and I showed it by doing everything possible not to give them a headache either). 3) Within the boundaries of rules one and two, lets all make as much money as we can.

    I found that worked pretty well. Still use that short list today where applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rareaspasia View Post
    Most of our guys have been fucking huge and intimidating.
    A guy like this would be perfect.




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    Roid rage ... I'd think not. LOL
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    That is not just roids, the "small" guy is "probably" using anabolic steroids. The big guy is using human growth hormone and maybe insulin.

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    I bounced for a few years at a few different clubs in IL and WI. The skills I used the most were being able to approach people and getting involved without antagonizing them, deescalating by various means including being friendly, quietly putting myself into the middle of the issue between the the dancers if needed and allowing them to get out of the situation, then deal with it as needed. I was a wrestler all through college so I had the skill to restrain people without needing to hit them. The people who hired me found that better than boxers and fighters since it reduced the harm done. Learn to read the people, pay attention to who is drinking the most, get to know your regulars, find out dancer comfort levels, and makes sure you know the rules of the area you are working in.
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    Platinum Plus in Greenville, SC, is a good example of a club that has had LE and city officials up its ass due, in large part, to bad bouncer behavior.

    http://www.greenvilledragnet.com/dea...investigation/
    http://www.foxcarolina.com/story/246...-platinum-plus

    In the first of the two links, which goes back to 2010, a bouncer was ultimately convicted of manslaughter for choking a guy out. He was able to avoid jail time, but it brought a ton of heat on the club. I visited the club a few times shortly after the incident and it was a ghost town for a while.

    The second incident was in 2014, when a bouncer was shot and killed after he chased a guy to his car over a payment dispute. Obviously the bouncer didn't deserve to get killed, but chasing guys down to their cars over payment disputes is just not acceptable anymore. It is also stupid since you don't know what this guy has in his car or how he is going to react.

    A common theme in both these incidents was poor decision making by the bouncers, likely due to poor training. But ever since the 2014 incident, the club has been under the microscope and there has been more than one attempt to shut it down. It is closed now in fact under a 6 month order.
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    But ever since the 2014 incident, the club has been under the microscope and their has been more than one attempt to shut it down. It is closed now in fact under a 6 month order.
    Yeah

    https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?id=4045
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    Yes the police started actively investigating allegations of ordinance violations and even sex, but it's not like that stuff was anything new in PP or any other club in that area. In fact, those types of activities were much more blatant and much cheaper in a few of the other clubs. Everybody knew the state of affairs in the Greenville clubs, which I'm sure included LE.

    So then why did LE suddenly decide to go "Law and Order" when they did in 2015 and why was PP the only club targeted, despite the fact that this stuff was much more open in some of the other clubs? Because PP had two deaths relating to bouncer activities in a 4 year stretch while the others did not. In fact, it is almost impossible to read a story about the PP ordinance issues without also seeing references to the 2010 and 2014 deaths. If they had just trained their bouncers better and had these deaths not occurred, I have no doubt that they would still in business today doing what they always had been doing. With bullshit like that they virtually forced the city and the county to be seen taking action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post

    So then why did LE suddenly decide to go "Law and Order" when they did in 2015 and why was PP the only club targeted, despite the fact that this stuff was much more open in some of the other clubs? Because PP had two deaths relating to bouncer activities in a 4 year stretch while the others did not. In fact, it is almost impossible to read a story about the PP ordinance issues without also seeing references to the 2010 and 2014 deaths. If they had just trained their bouncers better and had these deaths not occurred, I have no doubt that they would still in business today doing what they always had been doing. With bullshit like that they virtually forced the city and the county to be seen taking action.
    Community complaints & the police holding grudges & not bribes, would be my guess.

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    I was a wrestler all through college so I had the skill to restrain people without needing to hit them. The people who hired me found that better than boxers and fighters since it reduced the harm done.
    Yes. That's why I posted above "...or even better wrestling, or martial arts with that emphasis."

    I did a fair amount of jujitsu floor work many years ago, and it's done me far more good than any boxing training--much as I love the latter. Boxing will hurt someone--though it can be useful in learning to avoid or block a punch--whereas use of wrestling skill will subdue and control your opponent FAR more effectively, and if they are still trying to hurt you, you can choke them out.


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    Learn to read the people, pay attention to who is drinking the most, get to know your regulars, find out dancer comfort levels, and makes sure you know the rules of the area you are working in.
    Also great advice. Watch their body language and listen to them if you are close enough, tone of voice & inflexion means as much as what they are saying. You can learn to spot the troublemakers from far across the room, before they start a fight/antagonize the girls.



    And oh yeah be very careful breaking up the girl fights, some of them will turn on you if you aren't careful, and some of them will fight dirty. If they are really going to hurt each other, I have found it useful to simply pick them up (from behind if at all possible!) and carry them away from the girl they are trying to hurt, while telling them to calm down & you aren't going to hurt them, etc. in a strong but calm voice. Beware the thrown shoe or other object (been hit by an airborne shoe at least once he he).
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    Community complaints & the police holding grudges & not bribes, would be my guess.
    I can tell you from being in law enforcement the things that bring down a strip-club. The three biggies are drugs, guns and community complaints. So any strip-club owner wants to keep the first two out of the club and the neighbors happy.

    Sex isn't actually a problem unless it's an election year, or the local pols want to deflect attention from something else. Few in law enforcement relish being the "sex police" where consenting adults are concerned (there are always exceptions though). It's the three I mention above that usually get a club closed.
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    And wouldn't you know it, I would up doing some 'Light Bouncing' last night. Watching out for our very own Jezebelle*

    Had kind of a funny ending. Details to follow, right now I need some sleep before tonight's shift.
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