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    Default How long do you stick with a club?

    * I know its slow season.

    I'm back after a ten year break, I know the industry had changed, I'm older and that I am working in a different style club than before.
    But it is SLOW! DEADLY SLOW. Like I have had two nights where I didn't make quota and walked out with nothing. Couldn't get a dance, its so rough, painfully so.
    I haven't made as much as my worst night pre-break.
    I'm not sure if I'm just this off my game, wrong style club....I do know that customers are more handsy than I'm used to.

    How long do you give a club? The staff is nice, and so are the girls ( this may change of it doesn't pick up soon, girls are starting to talk shit about girls)

    I don't know, its frustratnothingt what's the point if I'm making $200 to nothing

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    Default Re: How long do you stick with a club?

    Hi
    Gelsey. Welcome back. Yes the industry has changed big time and I feel you. I agree that back in 2007 we were all making money every single night. You didnt have to worry about paying out house fees and coming out negative. Now you have to work more days to make less money. At the high house fee clubs there is nothing like being negative 150 in fees and literally 20 girls on shift and a total of less than 25 guys come in the entire night. Half not spending money. Frustrating as hell! Yes back in the day if you were clear headed, got on the floor, went and approached every guy with a positive attitude, and left drama at the door YOU WERE BANKING. Now you repeat that routine and it just does not work. Its all about establishing regulars and this can be time consuming and again frustrating. Its hard to be patient and calm to say the least when you watch girls going in VIP rooms with customers they established through time and constant effort in communication with there phones while you sit around with literally no one in the club. For me its like every three working nights is a bad night where I may come home with 60 bucks one night and the next 300 and the next 500. Its stressful as hell. You have to see if it fits your lifestyle for now. Try different clubs etc. Also note in the "ol days" you could easily try a club get and work that very night. Now clubs "protect" there loyal house girls by trying to keep a low roster which used to be unheard of. Best of luck.
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    Default Re: How long do you stick with a club?

    I would work the busy nights there and see how you do, if your still not making money leave. Start researching other clubs.
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    Thank you! I really appreciate the straight talk. This really helps put things in perspective. This really helped me see how things have changed, the game had changed. Thank you

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    Yes, this industry has changed. 10 years ago I made consistent money. I still make money, bit I have to put in more hours and a lot of my money comes from regulars, so you have to put in the time to work up a client base.


    I would give it until the end of march. By then you'll see if this slump is just seasonal, and maybe by then you'll have a good little group of regulars.

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    Hey, it sounds like you are describing one of my main clubs. I deal with it because it's semi close to me, they work with my schedule, and the girls are nice, but I've noticed the same thing when I came back after a hiatus. There was more hostility and shit talking between the girls because of how slow it is and how many of the customers are regulars.....the house girls think certain customers belong to them exclusively and get mad when they choose to get a dance with one of the newer girls. Before I left there was none of that but yeah, cattiness can be bred from not enough income going around for all the girls working even in the most drama free clubs.

    Anyway, I tend to get off track when I'm responding to threads so let me get back on track lol. Usually if the club is like I described, where the staff and girls are pleasant, they work with my schedule, and it's a stress free environment I give it longer than if it's a hostile environment. Sometimes it's worth taking a hiatus and trying to work somewhere else (which I did) for awhile and come back at a different time because sometimes the season and the time of the year has a lot to do with whether or not a club is busy or lucrative. If you're consistently not making your goal but you like the club I would recommend doing that, trying somewhere else for a little while and then trying again later.

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    I can relate to it. Industry is really different now. For example, my older friends were working in my club like 10-15 years ago and constantly making 800-1200. ALL THE F TIME. No extras, not model looking. They would work three busy nights a week and leave with 2.5 each week. Now I work in the same club. I can hit 1 k night once in a while, but most of the time it's 300 average. Guys do expect more for their 20$. Right now it is a slow season. If I were you -I would keep working in the same club for the reason to establish my regulars, but maybe try other clubs just to see. New energy always brings money.

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    Default Re: How long do you stick with a club?

    try other clubs. you can always just go back if they arent good

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaraLynn View Post
    Hey, it sounds like you are describing one of my main clubs. I deal with it because it's semi close to me, they work with my schedule, and the girls are nice, but I've noticed the same thing when I came back after a hiatus. There was more hostility and shit talking between the girls because of how slow it is and how many of the customers are regulars.....the house girls think certain customers belong to them exclusively and get mad when they choose to get a dance with one of the newer girls. Before I left there was none of that but yeah, cattiness can be bred from not enough income going around for all the girls working even in the most drama free clubs.
    This sounds like my club. Girls think they "own" the customers. I've had to remind a few of them that it's the customer's call whom he spends money on. We aren't "assigned". It's part of the game.

    The only time I let this slide is when I know the girl specifically texted/called the customer in and it was a pre arranged appt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveyDovey View Post
    This sounds like my club. Girls think they "own" the customers. I've had to remind a few of them that it's the customer's call whom he spends money on. We aren't "assigned". It's part of the game.

    The only time I let this slide is when I know the girl specifically texted/called the customer in and it was a pre arranged appt.
    Yep, and usually in those situations the customer will make it clear that they're waiting on someone if they get approached. Girls at the club I was talking about will even get mad when girls approach customers when they get up and walk away or go onstage. I mean, I hate losing dances because a customer didn't want to wait for me to get offstage and I couldn't skip I've had it happen before, but I never blame a girl for approaching the customer when I'm not currently sitting with him. Every customer sitting alone is fair game and if he isn't attached enough to tell the girl he's waiting for you then you're shit out of luck. Then there's the girls who think a customer is "theirs" if they danced for them once or twice in the past.

    Sorry, threadjack. haha

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    One night. I'll stay if i love everything about the club and feel like it has potential and is a good fit (like if i just hit a slow night in a great club). But generally i know right away if the club is a good fit or not. I'll audition or work a single shift and never come back.

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    Default Re: How long do you stick with a club?

    Selina M made a great comment once (i think she said this...) that dancing used to be a make-big-money-fast option. These days, for most dancers, dancing is more of an alternative to a regular job. You can make a livable income after paying taxes, health insurance, etc...but it's not CEO-level money anymore.

    Of course, we all have different experiences. And it sounds like this club is just a waste of your time, OP.. With tax season coming up, refreshing your hustle skills, and refining your appearance, you can expect your money to go up. Just keep your expectations reasonable based on where you live, your cost of living, and the club options available to you.

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    ^ D'aww, I'm flattered you remembered something I said

    OP, it has certainly changed. But it could also partly be the club and there might be a better option elsewhere in your city.
    I used to do as Charlie said (seriously, I am the queen of working half a shift and bailing because it didn't 'feel right'), but if your main concern is money, I would give it 3-4 shifts and see what you average.

    I'm a very analytical person and also picky about clubs, so I'm loath to leave one I like unless it becomes a desperate $$ situation. In that case I will notice when I have a few bad shifts close together, start running averages, and if it drops below $X/hourly for a couple weeks, I jump ship.
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

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    I leave clubs quick. Usually my reason for quick one-night leaves isn't that it was slow or the customers werent great it was more things about the staff or procedure of how business was conducted there or if I felt like I would have to change a lot to fit into the club and if it was worth it or not, and if I felt comfortable/safe.

    But I currently have multiple contracts and travel so I just kind of bounce around. I might stay at a place a couple month solid, butif I do a shift elsewhere and that looks better while the other place is drying/souring/changing for the worse, then I hop over there for a while.

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