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    I'm trying to invest in a career as a personal trainer or nurse. One thing I'm worried about with personal training is that it's too physical, competitive, and no benefits and it's a physical job. Anyways, I don't want to invest in nursing school if my past as a dancer will be an issue? I filed taxes on dancing and I've done it for a long time so hiding it would be a challenge. I don't want to waste anytime, but I could get my personal training certificate and CNA certificate and try both on. At my age, I just don't feel like can afford to make a bad decision. Are you honest about your job history? Have you had problems getting a vanilla job?
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    I'm looking into personal training also. Maybe gets certs in other things, such as being a group fitness instructor, get a cert in body modifications (for those doing bikini/fitness competitions), nutrition, or other things? That might make you stand out more. I'm looking as NESTA (google them). As for nursing, I don't know how it is where you live, but certain states are always more in need of nurses and CNAs than others, so you could move if you had to? I would try being a CNA first and see how you like it. My mom was a nurse and I was turned off by the long hours and how sick my brother and I were all the time, but depending on what kind of setting you work it, it may be something you truly enjoy (like private home care for example).
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    There are a lot of girls here looking into vanilla careers after dancing. I remember someone talking about nursing school, and saying as long as you didn't work with children, it should be fine. Personally, I had a decent vanilla job (and may go back to it), and I was able to hide my stripping/camming past. I wouldn't be honest about your job history, it's no one's business, and the vanilla world can be extremely judgmental.

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    Your dancing career should not have any impact on going into nursing. I went to nursing school after dancing, have been a nurse for 7 years, fucking hate it, and now dance again on the side so that I don't have to work as a nurse as often so far it has only happened twice that someone recognized me from vanilla job, but it was not an issue. They were like, "you look familiar... are you in the medical field?" but how can they judge when they are there, too? I suppose if your nurse manager came in that would be another story perhaps. But if you work in a big hospital, you are fairly anonymous. No one will recognize you with no makeup, wearing scrubs, hair in a scrubby ponytail, dark circles under your eyes glasses... um you get the picture.

    The only thing that would be a potential issue is if you have anything illegal on your record. Nursing jobs do background checks for arrests etc. If you are thinking about nursing school, allnurses.com is a site kind of like here; tons of ideas and support.

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    Also if you go for nursing, go for your BACHELORS, not just an associate's. The market is flooded with new nurses, and many hospitals are hiring nurses with bachelors ONLY. Plus you will be making more $$. They say RN stands for Rich Nurse and LPN stand for Low Payed Nurse just keep that in mind...

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    There are a lot of girls here looking into vanilla careers after dancing. I remember someone talking about nursing school, and saying as long as you didn't work with children, it should be fine. Personally, I had a decent vanilla job (and may go back to it), and I was able to hide my stripping/camming past. I wouldn't be honest about your job history, it's no one's business, and the vanilla world can be extremely judgmental.
    I was a preschool teacher before I danced-a good one. Crazy how people freak out about sex work and kids. Do people remember how babies are made?
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    Most things don't come up unless you bring it up. So keep it as don't ask Don't tell until you have to deal with it .

    I know for me I didn't want to leave sex work and go into a job so I went with building an online business, for me it was so much easier because I don't have to explain anything to anyone about my past history unless I want to, and for me that will come in a book I Am writing about my life.
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    You can still be a nurse despite having been a dancer. I have an ex who put himself through nursing school while working as a stripper and is now working as a Registered Nurse. I was working as a cna when I first started webcamming years ago. Heck, there have been porn stars and escorts who have gone on to become lawyers, teachers, and owners of businesses. Don't let that stop you if that's what you want to do.
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    Side note- there is sooo much Internet porn out there that IMO you can shut down a nosy weirdo by insisting they must have their "mind in the gutter" mistaking you for some random chick they saw somewhere online (say it more politely but you catch my drift.) Just make that person think they are completely wrong & you don't even understand what they are talking about....
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    I'm a massage therapist at a spa located in a gym, the personal trainers (as does any staff) there DO get health benefits, 401K and paid sick days if they are full time. As for me, dancing is the only other job I've had in over 10 years. When I applied for my first massage job, I told them I had been a self employed artist (since that's what it said on my taxes) and nobody questioned me further. They really only cared about my experience with massage. When I got my current job they didn't even ask what I did previous to massage. If I were you, I would go for it! Helping people feel better and achieve their goals is so rewarding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    You can still be a nurse despite having been a dancer. I have an ex who put himself through nursing school while working as a stripper and is now working as a Registered Nurse. I was working as a cna when I first started webcamming years ago. Heck, there have been porn stars and escorts who have gone on to become lawyers, teachers, and owners of businesses. Don't let that stop you if that's what you want to do.
    So what do you say? I have been a stripper for 7 years so I feel like I'll have to honest about it. I guess im just wanting anecdotal story of how to tell my future employer. Hum

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    You can absolutely still be a nurse after dancing. If there's one thing I've learned over the years, nursing is absolutely FILLED with ex-adult entertainers. It's probably not talked about except in places like this, but I think it's way more common than anyone realizes.

    If you have a resume gap, you can find ways to talk about it. Volunteer work; say you traveled a lot; I babysat a lot for friends (for free) but I pretended on my resume that it was a paid job; that you lived off of school loans while focusing on studying; you can even just say that you had a boyfriend/parents take care of you for awhile/while you were in school. The grand majority of my female friends have multi-year resume gaps from just being lazy and having their men take care of them. Not that you're lazy, but it's not like it's uncommon to say that you didn't have to work for awhile. Just some options.
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    Re. the personal trainer aspect: YMMV, but I researched the state I want to move to, and many of those gyms offer gooood benefits, including medical, dental, and PTO etc. Better than what I expected.

    Also, many are pushing for national certs, so look at American Council on Exercise, at least for the PT portion. (Nutrition etc, you can do cheaper at NESTA or another certifying place). Just thought I would share what I found, and I hope you are pursuing your dreams!
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    Thank you, I'll be praying about this. It's really stressful to think about people judging me for working in the sex industry. It's crazy that so many places want a degree that cost tens of thousands for a shitty job. One of my dancer friends got a 4 year degree and is having a hard time finding a good job. At 30 something I just don't want to stress about retiring and working at Hardee's. I look good for my age, but I want financial peace. I don't think it matters who you are now n days. I was reading a book called white trash and how people that come from lower class backgrounds are seen as disposable is the current economic climate. That how I feel right now. I'm getting my ACE and my CNA. Both those are better than nothing. I'm just wondering if I should go to nursing school so I have some education to fall back on. I've seen so many people take many different paths. It just seems financial peace and upward mobility isn't what it use to be. I have a degree in early childhood education, but I'm pretty sure with this job it would NEVER fly not to mention the pay is awful with no benefits. I know I'm doing better Just sitting on the couch doing, but it so stressful to think about. I just try to take it one day at a time!

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    Your dancing career should not have any impact on going into nursing. I went to nursing school after dancing, have been a nurse for 7 years, fucking hate it, and now dance again on the side so that I don't have to work as a nurse as often so far it has only happened twice that someone recognized me from vanilla job, but it was not an issue. They were like, "you look familiar... are you in the medical field?" but how can they judge when they are there, too? I suppose if your nurse manager came in that would be another story perhaps. But if you work in a big hospital, you are fairly anonymous. No one will recognize you with no makeup, wearing scrubs, hair in a scrubby ponytail, dark circles under your eyes glasses... um you get the picture.

    The only thing that would be a potential issue is if you have anything illegal on your record. Nursing jobs do background checks for arrests etc. If you are thinking about nursing school, allnurses.com is a site kind of like here; tons of ideas and support.

    Go for it if you want it! Nursing is very stable, and in demand, but you will work your ASS OFF and it can be soul-crushing. PM me if you want.

    Man I totally feel this. I stopped adult work, worked my ass off to get a masters in healthcare and man the job is stable but is such a grind. I work so hard everyday and after taxes, loan payments and rent I'm thinking...this is it???? This is what I get after killing myself for this degree?? I'm not gonna lie I'm a tad bitter. I wanna look into side work as a domme just don't wanna advertise my pics on sites and don't wanna engage in illegal activity in a dungeon and possibly lose my license. Don't know what to do.
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    Ditto to what what has been said already. Also a nurse. Never disclosed that to employers, but also never filed taxes as a dancer. I don't think the background check gets that detailed, like someone mentioned it is a through criminal background check (take your fingerprints and stuff) but I don't believe they get into your previous employment hx. Unless you give it to them.
    Also second that nursing is a hard, often soul crushing job. But, I also think there is a reason there are so many ex adult industry women in nursing. The skill set (at least in terms of dealing with difficult human beings) is eerily similar in a lot of ways

    ETA- definitely agree with getting your bachelors if you end up going that route. There is such a push in hospitals nowadays to have BSN's that they are forcing really, really good old nurses to go back to school, while they are working. Which I personally don't know if I could handle.

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    ^ Yeah, having dancer licenses is not as scary as I thought. I've had a couple background checks and my " sexually oriented business licenses " didn't even appear. They were just looking for criminal history which working as an entertainer isn't !
    ( just one case anyway but I always feared this stuff and never have had an issue )

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    Dancing on resume...Fluffed up can read
    Sales representative, consultant or customer service. T in the grand scheme of things dancing is commission based sales job. We just sell a different product then most. Because you are self employed, you do not have to provide references aside from yourself. However, a club could show up on a background check. Most clubs business names are completely different from their dba. The last club I worked at actual business name was Vegas Valley food and beverage. I used this several different ways on resumes depending on the job I was going for.
    My future plan entails still being self employed. I am working towards this goal but am comfortable camming for a good 5-7 more years into my mid 40s. Hell if I am still making good money then may as well cam as a side hustle. Camming has longevity in terms of the adult industry. I want to build a portfolio and get into copy writing, specifically sales copy for adult websites and businesses. I finally found this after years of soul searching...A job where I can continue to be self employed, do not technically need a college education, etc. It will take time but I have plenty of that.
    The fact that you are working toward this is a great thing. Don't let your past interfere with your present. We all wonder how dancing and baking can effect the long term but in this day and age it really does not unless children are involved. I know so many dancers who are studying nursing or are currently working as one. Good for you and keep on keeping on

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    If it comes up in an interview, how about saying something like this - "Yeah, I was a dancer. And yeah, I danced topless and with a bikini bottom. But, there is so much more to dancing than people assume. Any woman can dance topless. But, what made me so successful was that I've always been very good at reading people and talking to people. I had regulars that would come talk to me about their relationships, careers, bosses, etc., and I tried to change their outlook to be more positive. I gave them constructive ideas for dealing with problems and many of them said my ideas helped them. My regulars seemed to be more interested in talking to me than watching me dance. In many ways, I was like a therapist, and that is what led me to want to become a part of the health profession. I don't want to dance in clubs anymore. I want to be a nurse and I want to talk to people and do what I can to keep their outlook positive while they heal."
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    If it comes up in an interview, how about saying something like this - "Yeah, I was a dancer. And yeah, I danced topless and with a bikini bottom. But, there is so much more to dancing than people assume. Any woman can dance topless. But, what made me so successful was that I've always been very good at reading people and talking to people. I had regulars that would come talk to me about their relationships, careers, bosses, etc., and I tried to change their outlook to be more positive. I gave them constructive ideas for dealing with problems and many of them said my ideas helped them. My regulars seemed to be more interested in talking to me than watching me dance. In many ways, I was like a therapist, and that is what led me to want to become a part of the health profession. I don't want to dance in clubs anymore. I want to be a nurse and I want to talk to people and do what I can to keep their outlook positive while they heal."

    I will definitely let everyone know! I'm compulsively honest person. I will report back for sure. I might apply to a few places just to practice like Mc Donald's or something.
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    I'm trying to invest in a career as a personal trainer or nurse. One thing I'm worried about with personal training is that it's too physical, competitive, and no benefits and it's a physical job. Anyways, I don't want to invest in nursing school if my past as a dancer will be an issue? I filed taxes on dancing and I've done it for a long time so hiding it would be a challenge. I don't want to waste anytime, but I could get my personal training certificate and CNA certificate and try both on. At my age, I just don't feel like can afford to make a bad decision. Are you honest about your job history? Have you had problems getting a vanilla job?
    I actually made the transition from dancing to personal trainer. I've been doing it for a year and half. In August, it will be a year full time. I am working for a company that does have medical insurance. I just have the basic package but it's only $32 a month. It is physical and competitive, but when you find your niche; you capitalize on it. I'm studying a lot right now because I have to renew my license every two years. Tbh, I'm really enjoying the process of learning even more. Every industry you choose to work in is constantly changing, including stripping-it's good to learn and keep learning so you'll be on top of things when your industry experiences a flip. And who knows? You could even be the one who flips it:-)

    There are some downsides to the company I work for, but right now, my bosses think I'm an angel of mercy and some of my clients will do anything for me...including giving me a good recommdation when I choose to move on.

    As for being physical- choose an area you're good at, one that truly interests you. For example- if you're a group instructor: you gotta take care of your voice, your feet, your joints and muscles. My studio specializes in slow motion strength training. I make sure I get one or two serious , heavy sessions in a week. But my love will always be aerial: lyra and pole. This keeps me flexible and very upper body strong. I don't have time to do it 3 hours a day like I used to, but even once a week keeps me centered. I try to get some cardio in and I do little sprints around the studio, if I have down time.

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    I'm a massage therapist at a spa located in a gym, the personal trainers (as does any staff) there DO get health benefits, 401K and paid sick days if they are full time. As for me, dancing is the only other job I've had in over 10 years. When I applied for my first massage job, I told them I had been a self employed artist (since that's what it said on my taxes) and nobody questioned me further. They really only cared about my experience with massage. When I got my current job they didn't even ask what I did previous to massage. If I were you, I would go for it! Helping people feel better and achieve their goals is so rewarding.
    You're so lucky to get all these benefits. There is not a gym or studio I know in Los Angeles that would offer a 401K.

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    As for my past; nobody knows. I had worked in film and tv as a casting director and line producer (glorified accountant) while dancing. However, my regional boss used to own a pole studio and was a stripper long before that. Everyone in the company knows and they are cool with it. I do prefer to keep that intel to myself.

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    Re. the personal trainer aspect: YMMV, but I researched the state I want to move to, and many of those gyms offer gooood benefits, including medical, dental, and PTO etc. Better than what I expected.

    Also, many are pushing for national certs, so look at American Council on Exercise, at least for the PT portion. (Nutrition etc, you can do cheaper at NESTA or another certifying place). Just thought I would share what I found, and I hope you are pursuing your dreams!
    I bet California is not that state. I got certified through ACE. I really like their program!

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    Im strongly considering a move out of LA to try to maximize my savings from dancing as I move towards retirement age (I'm 31). I also do escort work on the side, but it has been very very far from ever becoming the bulk of my earnings, though I'd like more money to start flowing in from that if I were to move out of Southern CA. For the last couple of years, I've been doing the acting stuff but of course, don't see that as a long-term career and it's unpaid at the moment mostly anyhow, trying to build a copywriting portfolio and have been for years, thinking of teaching abroad.

    The latter requires a 2k certification for a month-long course. There are also degree options but since I already have a couple of "soft" degrees, I really don't see a point in getting another for a non-highly paid occupation such as ESL teaching. So hopefully, I can figure out a way to make money when out of this biz, though living in expensive cities will most likely be out of the question.

    Also, sometimes I think about bartending too. I'd think the work environment is very similar to stripping, and the pay is good if one can get hired. Maybe even disclosing that a stripping past would be more accepted in the night life industry. I had a male acquaintance from NY who'd make about $400 during a six-hour shift at a mid-tier place. Of course, in LA, he can't get hired to save his life.

    Lately I've been getting contacted by recruiters for civi jobs (not sure if it's legit offers or not), but the pay and the freedom compared to sex work is not nearly as good. I list my occupation as entertainment, consultant and personal care services under the realm of self-employed/sole proprietor. A lot of the skills we develop as sex workers are applicable in other realms, though stripping and escorting apply a totally different skill set. At least that's what I've been telling myself this past year to curb the impact of some of the emotional abuse from the customers.

    I really like what was said above about how dancing-though it's many other things too, is a commission-based sales job. I think the strip club as a work environment is oftentimes a high-pressure sales environment. Not that I'd ever want to continue working in sales. The high pressure is at times, invigorating; the hussle aspect, exhausting for a quasi-introvert like me. Nonetheless, it's still a skill that is respectable in a way that most would not think applies to dancing.

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