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    Default Re: How often does this happen?

    Actually, my comments were directed towards the OP's overly joyous post about kissing a stripper and I just brought up safety. I would have brought up sexual safety even if he met her at the bar. Also, I wanted to know why he was so happy at kissing his stripper friend. Just seem pretty odd particularly if he is healthcare professional to be so nonchalant about diseases. Just saying safety first

    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Donna, I'm not saying that you shouldn't protect your personal health in whatever way you see fit. Do whatever makes you feel comfortable. What I am saying is that these hysterical comments about something as innocuous as kissing are getting a little out of hand. Shit, people on first dates with strangers and random same night bar hookups are kissing. If we are going to add that to the list of things to be paranoid about then we might as well start wearing full body condoms when we interact with members of the opposite sex in any type of risqué way.
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    Default Re: How often does this happen?

    I kind of get what you are saying a stranger is a stranger but it's a sheer numbers game rick. In fairness it only takes one person to catch a contagious disease but the risk is increased the more contact one has with others, such as in the case of a stripper who interacts very closely with numerous men in a work week.

    Going to the bar to pick up a one nighter means going maybe once or twice a week, mingling with the crowd, then zeroing in on ONE dude (well some one are into group sex, gang bangs, and orgies but the norm would be one dude). Bar fly kisses 1-2 strange mouths per week.

    Maybe the bar flys work the bars like strippers work the clubs then the comparison would be the same.

    Going to work at a strip club would mean kissing multiple customers per shift per week. Stripper kisses 40+ strange mouths per week. For any stripper, With those numbers that's Russian roulette with your health.

    See the difference?

    Plus i pretty much treat men the same exact way in the club as I do outside the club. I'm limit who I allow kissing for and I check for visible signs of illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Miss, what does that have to do with the relative safety issues involved with a particular activity? If you aren't comfortable with doing something with strip club customers then so be it, but at its core it is no more risky than doing it with a random guy at a bar.
    Ummmm.....I beg to differ. Guys who regularly go to strip clubs pursuing kissing & other extras have a higher chance of having STD's or diseases than guys who do not. If a stripper decides to kiss a customer in the club, she will be more likely to do it again with random customers, which increases HER chance of contracting a disease, and the cycle continues. It's disgusting and not worth the risk at all.
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    It is indeed a numbers game, however, given the percentage of population that have HSV-1 and EBV. It is likely that you've already obtained the virus, but the viral load is too low and your immunity is strong enough. Thus, there are no outward expressions of symptoms.

    Shoot, if you ever had varicella zoster (chicken pox), it stays dormant in your nerves and can potentially resurface years later as shingles.

    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Actually, my comments were directed towards the OP's overly joyous post about kissing a stripper and I just brought up safety. I would have brought up sexual safety even if he met her at the bar. Also, I wanted to know why he was so happy at kissing his stripper friend. Just seem pretty odd particularly if he is healthcare professional to be so nonchalant about diseases. Just saying safety first
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikecrna View Post
    It is indeed a numbers game, however, given the percentage of population that have HSV-1 and EBV. It is likely that you've already obtained the virus, but the viral load is too low and your immunity is strong enough. Thus, there are no outward expressions of symptoms.

    Shoot, if you ever had varicella zoster (chicken pox), it stays dormant in your nerves and can potentially resurface years later as shingles.



    You should see some senior healthcare professionals. Touching and interacting w/pt who are MRSA, VRE, C. diff positive w/o proper protections. I wouldn't be surprised if you swabbed me and any other healthcare professional and found a decent percentage of MRSA carriers.
    I don't get why people are so quick to say "you probably already have it and just don't know" ......um it's called an std test and you can test for herpes simplex so you know definitively if you have it or not. http://www.ashasexualhealth.org/stds...erpes-testing/

    Herpes zoster/chicken pox is a bit different. It's in the herpes family of viruses but the transmission is different. http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/...ox-Spread.html Before there was a vaccine for it, it was very common among elementary school aged kids. They would easily transmit to each other because their parents would send them to school either not knowing they had contagious virus or they'd send them to school before they were finished healing but still contagious.

    There is now a vaccine against herpes zoster that was developed several years ago so it's not as common. For some reason they have not developed a cure or vaccine for herpes simplex type 1 / type 2.


    Yes I've seen healthcare professionals do things that to me seem like they don't gaf. I've heard a surgeon admit he doesn't use soap to wash his hands at the hospital just water?!? I've seen "doctors" workout in scrubs before they went to work. And I've seen a doctor touch a patients unknown rash without gloves.

    I don't want to seem like I'm arguing with you or go too far off topic so I'll leave it here.

    But hope you continue to have good time during your strip club visits.
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    I'm kind of surprised to see so much concern over kissing on a website for sex workers. Aren't there a lot of escorts that do the gfe thing that kiss their clients also? If we're telling this guy don't kiss strippers because the ones that do are more likely to have a disease (not my words, another posters in a roundabout way as she said men who visit strip clubs are more likely because they seek extras from stippers, hence the strippers that give extras give it to them) doesn't that hold true for the escorts that kiss? And if so are those escorts at fault for not being "safe"? Don't bite my head off I'm just trying to understand what some here find an acceptable risk when it comes to this.

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    I do think its slightly different given a good percentage of escort clients expect GFE and escorts know this and adjust their business accordingly.

    The only thing the strip club customer can expect is a tantalizing dance. I don't think they can expect anything more unless they are looking for extras.

    I'd say 10-20% of strip club customers asked or begged for kissing. Perhaps the extras dancers adjusted their business to suit those strip club customers asking for kissing.

    I personally am not concerned over the act of kissing per say but the spread of disease that can occur especially with kissing a high number of customers on every shift. Hopefully the women get paid very well to take the risk to deep kiss their clients, customers.

    And there are escorts who don't provide kissing either. At least thats what some of them said on the other thread. Ill edit if i find it. Found em.
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...escort+kissing
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...escort+kissing
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I do think its slightly different given a good percentage of escort clients expect GFE and escorts know this and adjust their business accordingly.

    The only thing the strip club customer can expect is a tantalizing dance. I don't think they can expect anything more unless they are looking for extras.

    I'd say 10-20% of strip club customers asked or begged for kissing. Perhaps the extras dancers adjusted their business to suit those strip club customers asking for kissing.

    I personally am not concerned over the act of kissing per say but the spread of disease that can occur especially with kissing a high number of customers on every shift. Hopefully the women get paid very well to take the risk to deep kiss their clients, customers.

    And there are escorts who don't provide kissing either. At least thats what some of them said on the other thread. Ill edit if i find it. Found em.
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...escort+kissing
    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...escort+kissing
    This thread turned into the risks of kissing though. There has been no debate as to whether strippers should or should not kiss customers and vice versa. So really no difference between a stripper and escort as it relates to risk is my point. Escorts don't adjust their business in that sense because kissing is kissing.

    Are we saying in this thread that escorts and their clients that kiss are taking any less risk? Or Is that "disgusting" also? Like I said I was just surprised to see the concern and judgement being passed in this thread on this board especially.

    I guess I just feel you can shame the location (kissing in the club) but shaming the act seems hypocritical to the industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbleHead View Post
    I'm kind of surprised to see so much concern over kissing on a website for sex workers. Aren't there a lot of escorts that do the gfe thing that kiss their clients also? If we're telling this guy don't kiss strippers because the ones that do are more likely to have a disease (not my words, another posters in a roundabout way as she said men who visit strip clubs are more likely because they seek extras from stippers, hence the strippers that give extras give it to them) doesn't that hold true for the escorts that kiss? And if so are those escorts at fault for not being "safe"? Don't bite my head off I'm just trying to understand what some here find an acceptable risk when it comes to this.
    I'm not saying ALL men who go to strip clubs pursue extras. I said only a percentage do, and those are the ones who risk getting a disease. And of course, not all strippers have STD's, but if they are providing extras, kissing included, their risk goes up as well. It's common sense, dude. Escorts are a different thing. We are talking about strippers in this thread, not escorts. I've never escorted, so that is not my territory to comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbleHead View Post
    This thread turned into the risks of kissing though. There has been no debate as to whether strippers should or should not kiss customers and vice versa. So really no difference between a stripper and escort as it relates to risk is my point. Escorts don't adjust their business in that sense because kissing is kissing.

    Are we saying in this thread that escorts and their clients that kiss are taking any less risk? Or Is that "disgusting" also? Like I said I was just surprised to see the concern and judgement being passed in this thread on this board especially.

    I guess I just feel you can shame the location (kissing in the club) but shaming the act seems hypocritical to the industry.
    The point is, kissing customers as a stripper is outside the job description and is considered an extra. It should not be expected when customers walk into a strip club. I'm not trying to be judgemental, but as a stripper, I can certainly make money without having to kiss anyone. End of story.
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    ????

    Strippers (well most of them) are not escorts.

    Why you are comparing strippers to escorts? That's two different job requirements.

    Strippers Kissing in the club is not the same context as an escort kissing her clients. Not all escorts offer kissing to their clients.

    I'm surprised to see so many men with lackluster concern for their health and the health of their wives.
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    Frankly, the op turned this thread into something else by acting nonchalant about diseases in general. This thread did not turn into the risk of kissing...I was addressing the OP's nonchalant statements about stds as health care professional That was the gross part! STDS is nothing to play with. Plus, I was also addressing his overly happy post about kissing a sex worker in the first place. No one was judging anyone. I was just trying to understand He explained everything and it is not a big deal. I just objected more to the nonchalant attitude towards stds in this thread.In addition, I do not understand why you are such crusader for kissing sex workers anyways. Seriously, what is with customers like yourself wanting every sex worker to be gun ho for everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbleHead View Post
    I'm kind of surprised to see so much concern over kissing on a website for sex workers. Aren't there a lot of escorts that do the gfe thing that kiss their clients also? If we're telling this guy don't kiss strippers because the ones that do are more likely to have a disease (not my words, another posters in a roundabout way as she said men who visit strip clubs are more likely because they seek extras from stippers, hence the strippers that give extras give it to them) doesn't that hold true for the escorts that kiss? And if so are those escorts at fault for not being "safe"? Don't bite my head off I'm just trying to understand what some here find an acceptable risk when it comes to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    I'm not saying ALL men who go to strip clubs pursue extras. I said only a percentage do, and those are the ones who risk getting a disease. And of course, not all strippers have STD's, but if they are providing extras, kissing included, their risk goes up as well. It's common sense, dude. Escorts are a different thing. We are talking about strippers in this thread, not escorts. I've never escorted, so that is not my territory to comment.
    I'm not debating the common sense fact that the more random people you have any kind of sexual contact with the more you are at risk. My point wasn't for kissing or against it. I was surprised to see the reactions to it when many people on this board do it for a living. I absolutely see the difference of it being done in the club by a DANCER vs an escort but the location didn't really seem to be the focus of the replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    The point is, kissing customers as a stripper is outside the job description and is considered an extra. It should not be expected when customers walk into a strip club. I'm not trying to be judgemental, but as a stripper, I can certainly make money without having to kiss anyone. End of story.
    Again, you are right. I never said it was even okay to do in a club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    ????

    Strippers (well most of them) are not escorts.

    Why you are comparing strippers to escorts? That's two different job requirements.

    Strippers Kissing in the club is not the same context as an escort kissing her clients. Not all escorts offer kissing to their clients.

    I'm surprised to see so many men with lackluster concern for their health and the health of their wives.
    I didn't compare strippers to escorts as what their job descriptions are. I compared them as human beings along with their customers who kiss. There was judgement on the ACT of kissing random people in this thread and I thought it was a little misplaced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaDiabla View Post
    Frankly, the op turned this thread into something else by acting nonchalant about diseases in general. This thread did not turn into the risk of kissing...I was addressing the OP's nonchalant statements about stds as health care professional That was the gross part! STDS is nothing to play with. Plus, I was also addressing his overly happy post about kissing a sex worker in the first place. No one was judging anyone. I was just trying to understand He explained everything and it is not a big deal. I just objected more to the nonchalant attitude towards stds in this thread.In addition, I do not understand why you are such crusader for kissing sex workers anyways. Seriously, what is with customers like yourself wanting every sex worker to be gun ho for everything.
    My point has been that his nonchalant attitude as it relates to kissing random people in this thread hasn't been any more nonchalant than an escort that does gfe. It is no big deal you're right.

    I am no crusader for kissing sex workers though or for them to be gung ho for everything. I'm just not down with shaming some dude for the act of kissing a random girl on a site where it's practiced professionally. Tell him to keep that shit out of the club, yes, but there wasn't really a need for the rest. JMO and I'll leave it there.

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