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    Long story but I'll keep it breif ...
    Manager sent me over to drink and chat with a customer, telling me he likes to drink with girls and be pushy to go into the room too if they send another girl over.
    The customer tipped me for my time and said he wanted to drink a bit more before we went to a room.
    Then another girl came up and started dancing on him, whispering in his ear, pushing me out of the conversation. They went to the room, he said he didn't want to double. So I couldn't close the sale.

    This is the second time this customer has been "poached" from me. I'm not sure if its that I'm not enough of a "party girl" or "domineering " for him....or if he likes the rejection?

    I'm not a game player, but I'm annoyed at loss of sale
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    I would have a very serious pow wow with that bitch ugh if I didn't end her punching her LoL
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    Wait, so you're just sitting there with him, just the 2 of you, and she just plops down uninvited??? And starts hustling???

    Helllllll nooooo....

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    Maybe he liked how aggressive she was and that she was more in 'party mode'. Or maybe she whispered about doing extras and thats why he chose her. Who knows. If this happened twice I probably wouldn't try hustling the guy again. Or next time you see him you could turn up the fun aggressive hustle and try to get him back there.

    This has happened to me before tho too and it is annoying.

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    Sounds like it's not worth the hassle. I'd save my energy and seek out other customers... while also keeping an eye out for that girl. If you're sitting with a guy, no other girl should be approaching him.

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    I mean the manager sent me over, its such a weird set up. The first time was a different girl, his regular so nothing to be done there, he wants what he wants.
    He tips, I'll get rejected for $60 to $80. Especially on a slow night.
    I just don't get what he wants, party or pushy? After the room I stopped at the bar for water after stage, he told me his room was bad; she was a bitch. I told him he could have had nice but he chose differently.
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    Well I'm glad his girl was a bitch for you, maybe next time he'll just grab you up since you continued to be pleasant to him even though you didn't get the sale that time.

    Is he a friend of the club, owner or manager? Those customers are always a little extra ugh.

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    Hopefully he'll wise up and choose you next time. Serves him right, choosing a rude girl over you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gelsey View Post
    The customer tipped me for my time
    you got paid for you time, so no reason to complain,

    not all guys will like what you have to offer, he found something else he thought he would like, no reason to be upset, if he wants you next time then great

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    Quote Originally Posted by anyacolo22 View Post
    you got paid for you time, so no reason to complain,

    not all guys will like what you have to offer, he found something else he thought he would like, no reason to be upset, if he wants you next time then great
    Exactly my thought. But I'd like to close the sale and make more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gelsey View Post
    Exactly my thought. But I'd like to close the sale and make more.
    its human nature to be greedy, we always want more, sometimes just be happy with what you did make, if the guy was not there in the first place you would have made nothing from him,

    its not like you had to work hard for the money, some people might have to do hard physical labor for 4-8 hours or more to make what he gave you,

    your acting like your entitled to all this mans money, when reality is the opposite
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    Quote Originally Posted by gelsey View Post
    Manager sent me over to drink and chat with a customer, telling me he likes to drink with girls and be pushy to go into the room too if they send another girl over.
    Then another girl came up and started dancing on him, whispering in his ear, pushing me out of the conversation. They went to the room, he said he didn't want to double. So I couldn't close the sale.
    This is the second time this customer has been "poached" from me. I'm not sure if its that I'm not enough of a "party girl" or "domineering " for him....or if he likes the rejection?
    Based on what the manager said about "being pushy" if they send another girl over, it sounds like he's expecting/wants a girl who's pretty aggressive about the sale. You didn't describe how you were working him but I'm guessing it was too laid back for his style and when another girl came up and was like "baby I want u to get me naked NOW" or whatever he was down.

    It's kinda shitty that the other girl jumped in but this sounds like a big spending club reg to me that typically takes multiple girls, so the same rules about not approaching might not apply here because the other girl probably assumed he would take you as well.

    Next time I'd attempt to be more aggressive with this guy. The worst that happens is he'll say he's not interested again, nbd. Saying "i want some more drinks' and tipping you was probably a polite way of telling you to move along. You'd want to push him harder about being "but I'm ready now" etc and that might work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJa View Post
    Next time I'd attempt to be more aggressive with this guy. The worst that happens is he'll say he's not interested again, nbd. Saying "i want some more drinks' and tipping you was probably a polite way of telling you to move along. You'd want to push him harder about being "but I'm ready now" etc and that might work.
    This. Or personally I'd give one last effort of assuming the sale "sounds great, lets get another drink on our way to the champagne room!"

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    Put lotion in her heels next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by anyacolo22 View Post
    its human nature to be greedy, we always want more, sometimes just be happy with what you did make, if the guy was not there in the first place you would have made nothing from him,

    its not like you had to work hard for the money, some people might have to do hard physical labor for 4-8 hours or more to make what he gave you,

    your acting like your entitled to all this mans money, when reality is the opposite
    It's our job to try to get customers to spend money especially when a manager is sending you over. He's not sending you over to get tipped and have a drink it's to get the customer into the champagne room. Figuring out a strategy to successfully do that is not being greedy or entitled, lol.

    And I agree with SuperJa the normal rules don't apply with these types of customers. I used to work in a big upscale club that got alot of these guys and multiple girls would try to hustle them. I'm more laid back and sometimes they like it and sometimes they don't. So if laid back isn't working on him definitely amp up the aggressiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22lligm View Post
    It's our job to try to get customers to spend money especially when a manager is sending you over. He's not sending you over to get tipped and have a drink it's to get the customer into the champagne room.
    and we all know we are never going to succeed in doing that 100% of the time,

    making some money is better then making no money at all,

    you are looking at the situation from a pessimistic point of view,

    i am looking at it from an optimistic point of view,

    thats the difference,

    if you constantly have the mindset and attitude of "i could have made more money" or "i should have made more money" then you are going to be upset and aggrevated all the time,

    its normal to be greedy but you need to have some sort of limit,

    if i go to work and make $400 bucks, whats the point in wasting energy sitting there thinking i should have made more or could have made more?.....its a waste of time and energy, im happy with my $400

    some people need to work 40+ hours to take home $400 bucks,

    i guess i am just more humble then most here.....and proud of it


    also this.....

    Quote Originally Posted by gelsey View Post
    Manager sent me over to drink and chat with a customer, telling me he likes to drink with girls

    first of all the manager only said he likes to chat and drink with the girls, and that is exactly what happened to the OP, so she shouldn't have expected anything more,
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    ^ I think you're a little mistaken. Nobody is wasting time being upset about how much they made, we are just looking back on the shift to see how we could've done something differently to make even more. That's how you learn and grow as a hustler. You can be happy with that $400 and not care about the loss of sale, or you can figure out what to do differently so you can make two or three times that amount your next shift.

    Plus, there's a lot more to be made in some clubs than $400, especially in clubs that get these high rollers. If you're going to put so much energy into this job (it does take alot of energy physically and mentally) you might as well try to get the most money you can every shift. I mean I'm still grateful for whatever amount I make (I used to waitress and would make 100$ after a ten hour shift), but I can still push myself to make as much as I can at the club. I don't think that makes me greedy.

    But okay this is a thread jack sorry lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anyacolo22 View Post

    some people need to work 40+ hours to take home $400 bucks,

    i guess i am just more humble then most here.....and proud of it

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    We are strippers. Humility and low expectations do not become us and I would never want to hustle with someone who was happy doing the Least just because someone out there makes what I make in 2 weeks. You can be happy with what you make and STILL have higher expectations for yourself and goals. OP is trying to learn, and you are telling her to shut up and be grateful by using guilt-trip tactics. If everyone on stripper web told the girls to shut up and be grateful, no one would learn. But congrats on your preachy sense of moral superiority, that's sure helpful

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    ^^ Lmao that natalie portman pic always gets me

    Also proud to be humble?

    Humble
    adjective
    1.
    having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance.

    Pride
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    a feeling or deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired

    Ok done being petty.

    To the OP: Do you boo!! I encountered plenty of customers like this in NY. Sometimes it's not your day.
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    If he's one of those regulars who has multitudes of women around him, then yeah, different rules apply. You're just going to have to step it up and be more aggressive/flirtatious next time.

    If he's *not* one of those customers, then yeah, that was pretty rude of that girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 22lligm View Post
    ^ I think you're a little mistaken. Nobody is wasting time being upset about how much they made, we are just looking back on the shift to see how we could've done something differently to make even more. That's how you learn and grow as a hustler. You can be happy with that $400 and not care about the loss of sale, or you can figure out what to do differently so you can make two or three times that amount your next shift.

    Plus, there's a lot more to be made in some clubs than $400, especially in clubs that get these high rollers. If you're going to put so much energy into this job (it does take alot of energy physically and mentally) you might as well try to get the most money you can every shift. I mean I'm still grateful for whatever amount I make (I used to waitress and would make 100$ after a ten hour shift), but I can still push myself to make as much as I can at the club. I don't think that makes me greedy.

    But okay this is a thread jack sorry lol.
    Agreed. OP was not complaining but asking for constructive criticism and help. There's nothing wrong or entitled about that. It's how people learn and get better at their jobs. This is a job, and it's a sales job where you make what you put into it. There's nothing shameful about wanting to grow in an area that you feel you can do better in. Being grateful doesn't have to mean being complacent or vice versa. And wanting to do better isn't mutually exclusive from gratitude. There should be no shaming someone about acting entitled and ungrateful just because she wants to know how to do better in the future.
    Don't try to win over the haters. You are not the Jerk Whisperer.

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