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    When I become attracted to a dancer I have learned to go see her often because in a few months she will likely be gone, to another club or, more likely, out of the profession. In my sales business the axiom is that 80 percent of those who start out do not last more than two years. I am guessing the turnover rate for dancers is even greater. How long does the average career last? And what makes the turnover so high?

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    Why don't you exchange contact info in case she moves on to another club?

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    Average career, couldn't tell you. It seems to depend on a lot of things.
    "Career" may not be the right word in most cases. I know tons of girls who've been dancing for like 5 years but have another job & are doing it for fun. They're just in it for spending cash & don't really hustle, and therefore don't stress much. It's just extra mall money for them.
    Girls who do it as their only job seem more extreme. They either quit within 1 week to 1 month, when they realize it isn't as easy as "Fuck my vanilla job, I'll just be a stripper", or they are in for several years & save up to go to school or buy a business or some other major goal.

    Why is turnover high? Lots of reasons. We switch clubs if the management starts sucking, they raise fees, customers turn shitty, etc. We leave the industry for brief periods when we burn out of all the accompanying nonsense (the club stuff I mentioned + customer shit). We leave the industry permanently if we accomplish the financial goal we came in with, if all the clubs in our area are not even worth the time to work in, or if we are just permanently over the shit.
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    Even the few who love dancing an do it long term require breaks I've been dancing since 2011 and know many who have danced way longer but you need to take breaks..I've taken two so far. Getting pregnant, gaining weight, burn out, dating the fuckboy flavor of the month who doesn't like their profession, the list goes on.
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    A lot of girls at my club have been there for 5+ years, sometimes with time off in between. GypsyLace is right, clubs that are managed well and are more successful tend to keep girls longer.

    The length of time varies SO much... often, girls plan on doing it for X amount of time, then lengthen or shorten their stay depending on how successful they are at stripping or how badly they need money.

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    Dancers are salespeople, but they also have to be attractive. Many people I'm sure, assume that the latter is the sole requirement, but the high earners on here seem to favor sales skills as the route to good money. I'm not in sales but any business owner is a salesman, at the end of the day. I've learned a lot about motivation and sales here. As you know I'm sure, sales can be hard. But if you don't make rain, your business will wither, so you keep working at it.
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    Too many variables in a person's life to identify why they are no longer there. Your job isn't like ours...maybe she works at three different clubs and she is doing a week at a different one than you're visiting or happened to stay home that night. You could call the club and ask them to contact her to say a customer is requesting her for a particular night at xx o'clock (if you're POSITIVE you're going to show up), or, as another person mentioned, ask how you can get in touch if you'd like to go back another night to see her.

    Additional note of advice: if you ask to contact her when you want to come in, plan to spend at least $100+, if you request that the club ask her to come in, $200+. I would be very mad if my club called to say I have a customer requesting and I went in on a night that's dead and the guy spent pocket change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinksugardoll View Post
    Too many variables in a person's life to identify why they are no longer there. Your job isn't like ours...maybe she works at three different clubs and she is doing a week at a different one than you're visiting or happened to stay home that night. You could call the club and ask them to contact her to say a customer is requesting her for a particular night at xx o'clock (if you're POSITIVE you're going to show up), or, as another person mentioned, ask how you can get in touch if you'd like to go back another night to see her.

    Additional note of advice: if you ask to contact her when you want to come in, plan to spend at least $100+, if you request that the club ask her to come in, $200+. I would be very mad if my club called to say I have a customer requesting and I went in on a night that's dead and the guy spent pocket change.
    Good insight. And that begs the question that do dancers make more income off of regular customers? (custermers contacting the dancer/requesting/etc..) or just showing up at your shift and just working the customers there and dancing on stage?

    I would rather be a "regular" customer. At my age, mental state, and financial status I rather just kick it/spend money on the dancers I like. Im not the type that wants to get 20 dances from 20 different strippers lol

    On the side note: Atlanta is more of a "make it rain" club atmosphere (especially on weekends). Not too many chill/laid back spots. That may factor into which a dancer may prefer.

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    I have a close friend who is my ATF dancer (it started with a lap dance 2-3 years ago, but our relationship quickly developed into 'initmate friends' and we've been that way for the past couple of years). She has a decent full time job but has been dancing 1 day a week for years now.

    I watch her at work sometimes, she seems to really be having real, not fake, fun, compared to the dancers who are in a rush to finish and go home, or in a rush to hook some guy's wallet. She seems to enjoy the joking, the banter... some of the regulars she knows their tales of jobs, hobbies, kids etc. When the original place was sold and the new owner was a jerk, she moved to a nearby club, and brought her fans with her. I really believe she likes dancing much more than her regular job.

    This is a low key place, though. A bar, a few dancers, no big glamorous hype or high pressure/high prices. I don't think she'd like one of those places.

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    I've worked for 5 years and changed clubs 7 times. Never know if the grass is greener until you work somewhere else

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    Quote Originally Posted by inawe View Post
    When I become attracted to a dancer I have learned to go see her often because in a few months she will likely be gone, to another club or, more likely, out of the profession. In my sales business the axiom is that 80 percent of those who start out do not last more than two years. I am guessing the turnover rate for dancers is even greater. How long does the average career last? And what makes the turnover so high?
    @OP: How's the insurance business these days ? Are you still working at the same agency that you were in 2011 ? I ask, because you started a thread in 2011 pretty much asking the same question, and making the same assertions. My initial inclination was to try to provide a link to my 2011 post in your thread ("Longevity in the business"), but decided to humor you with 2 recent real world examples of dancer turnover rate.

    1) Of the 37 dancers scheduled to work tonight at a high end Los Angeles club, I recognized 4, maybe 3 more from my two 2012 club visits.

    2) Of the 41 dancers working at a mid tier Tampa FL club last night, only 8 had worked at club for more than 5 years. 19 worked there 6 months to 5 years, 13 for 6 months or less. (One of "newbies" had worked at the club across the street for 4 years.)

    As prior posters have stated, it's not uncommon for dancers to migrate to other clubs, or take an extended break from dancing. Two of the 8 vets in the >5 yrs category in #2 took a ~ 1 yr. break dancing at another club. Six other veteran dancers have danced at the club across the street at varying times.

    I'll stand by an assertion made on another board that you could walk into a club 6 months later and find half the dancers are gone from your prior visit.
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    I wonder does he also keep track of the staff at his favorite place to eat?
    What about a regular bar?

    Staff turns over at a regular rate except for management. Sales people in general more often than others change where they work. Sales people are always looking to deal up, to find a new place to work that will make them more money. Sales people are always looking for the better bigger deal.

    Many strippers try real estate as a career after done with dancing. I know many who became certified personal trainers, due to them always having to keep their bodies in shape for stripping.

    Working at a boring desk job 9 to 5 with no real room to increase income is not for most of us.

    Strip clubs like regular night clubs do decline & new hot ones that everyone goes to pops up. I started off at a hole in the wall place in a small town, couldn't wait to go to Dallas after about 6 months of dancing. Want to see if I could make more money in a bigger fancier place & town. I did make more money by going to a bigger, better place.

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