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    Default Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    Hello! (if this needs to be in hustle hut or other, please move)

    So I have been dancing for a few years off and on now. I acknowledge that I am a bit burned out and jaded, and am returning after a several months break to try again, but I need help.

    WHAT do you all do when a guy or group of 5 comes in, sits ONE row away from the tip rail so they don't "have" to tip, are obviously watching the show, and girl after girl goes up on stage, doing amazing shit and looking great... and they tip NOTHING or maybe $2 total for the entire group every 15 min or so. Generally these are slow dives where if THEY don't pay something, NO ONE is making any money. At all. Except the bartender of course.

    I get LIVID. I get SO ANGRY and I feel taken advantage of and stolen from. I feel like it is un-just. When money is good, I can let it roll off, but this is motherfucking Portland, and it has been shit lately... at least for me. So this is REALLY getting under my skin to the point that it ruins my day, I often leave early/walk out, and ruminate about it for weeks.

    Lately a few times I have gone up to people and said something along the lines of "Hi! How's it going? Have you ever been to a strip club before? Did you forget to go get some tipping dollars? You know you are supposed to be tipping if you are watching the show, right? Sitting here watching without tipping is basically like stealing. Do you like to work for free? Because I don't."

    The above is said with a smile and I am trying to stay calm but I start getting so FUCKING angry, and I feel like my voice starts to shake, and then I am shaky and pissed the rest of the evening. Occasionally people will tip at least the next girl on stage. Many just leave, which I am totally ok with. Once or twice the guy starts tipping but mostly it seems like they are 100% aware of what they are doing and do not fucking care and know they will likely get away with it. The sense of entitlement these customers have make me want to rip their fucking throats out.

    Am I supposed to just let this role off?? Is the bartender/DJ/whoever not responsible for making sure people aren't fucking STEALING from us?? I put a lot of heart into my show, but lately I feel like just standing there and staring at the patrons with my arms crossed, like wtF are you looking at? I know it's not a good look or a good hustle I know it's a huge turn off. But when I am not being PAID SHIT to be nice or attractive, I can't keep up the good attitude for long. I try to just tune them out and dance for myself, get my free workout, whatever... but often I cannot shake it off anymore.

    Help? Advice? Am I too far gone and need to hang up the heels?
    This is not an issue of unattractive dancers, crappy stage presence etc. We all have our off days, but I have pole game, great body, etc and so do many of the other dancers getting shafted.

    Considering driving to Bend, Salem, or other states at this point to see if it's just a Portland thing....

    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    Stay calm and cool first. When giving feedback I think you're coming off a bit harsh - though some guys like that sort of thing - I think it's easier to catch flies with honey so to speak. Idk. I'd probably wave one of them over, smile, whisper in his ear how I looove dancing for him but would dance even freakier with some stage tip money. Then while I'm stage dancing I'd sell him on a private after the stage show.

    Or you could try To hustle the guys in the group after the stage show is over. Some guys won't stage tip - they are lazy - but they will buy private shows if you ask them.

    And DJ is supposed to slow things down and do longer breaks between dancers if he feels the customers are slow to buy/tip and or the crowd is sparse.

    I also wouldn't perform to 100% capabilities unless it's a crowd and/or money shower on stage. So stay energetic and bubbly but dial down the performance. If no one is tipping I literally act like the stage is a runway and just start modeling or prancing around. Reall basic shit but still sexy enough where I would get tipped (because if guys sense you don't enjoy it they're less likely to tip you)

    Or it could be the club is just slow/dead and everyone including customers dancers etc can feel the dead energy. Maybe a change of scenery would help.
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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    I have no advice but I get the same way!!! it is extremely fustrating...

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Stay calm and cool first. When giving feedback I think you're coming off a bit harsh - though some guys like that sort of thing - most don't. Idk. I'd probably wave one of them over, smile, whisper in his ear how I looove dancing for him but would dance even freakier with some stage tip money. Then while I'm stage dancing I'd sell him on a private after the stage show.

    Or you could try To hustle the guys in the group after the stage show is over. Some guys won't stage tip - they are lazy - but they will buy private shows if you ask them.

    And DJ is supposed to slow things down and do longer breaks between dancers if he feels the customers are slow to buy/tip and or the crowd is sparse.

    I also wouldn't perform to 100% capabilities unless it's a crowd and/or money shower on stage. So stay energetic and bubbly but dial down the performance. If no one is tipping I literally act like the stage is a runway and just start modeling or prancing around. Reall basic shit but still sexy enough where I would get tipped (because if guys sense you don't enjoy it they're less likely to tip you)

    Or it could be the club is just slow/dead and everyone including customers dancers etc can feel the dead energy. Maybe a change of scenery would help.
    Thank you, this is extremely helpful!! I know I have been that dancer before, staying positive and drawing people in when the girl who went up before me looked angry and irritated. They complained about her attitude but started spending on me. I just gotta stay positive. And yes, trying some new clubs this weekend

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    I just ignore them when I'm up. Turn your back to them, if you can get away with not taking your top off unless they tip, do it. I've been known to climb all the way up the pole and sit at the top, lay on stage just chilling, etc.
    If anyone complains my response is "We aren't strippin if you aren't tippin"

    Is the DJ encouraging tipping? Does the bartender make a big deal out of getting them singles for tipping? Anything?
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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    I try to ignore it, but yes, it pisses me off. People do this at my club all the time. We get a lot of traffic, but unfortunately also a lot of timewasters.

    If there are other people in the club who might tip, I'd still put on a decent stage show. Just distract yourself, compartmentalize, and think of something that makes you happy. When I can't deal with the club anymore, sometimes I'll just go in the back and watch videos of cats, lol. Or if you're allowed, sit somewhere in the corner and watch the other dancers for a while. Whatever helps you to chill out and regroup. Then get back in the game.

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    I tend to er on the side of aggressive so if I have time to spare , I'll ask them if they want me to walk up a tip to my friend dancing on stage ect.

    Or ask the waitress to break change for them.

    I don't always do these more in your faces moves, but sometimes it's needed.

    There's all kinds of things you can do if your club allows it ..... obviously .... these strategies need a tactful touch and shouldn't be used unless they are REALLY being awful.

    Your dj and bouncer should really be reminding anyone near stage to tip too along with waitresses asking if they need change.

    I hope your new club scouting goes well - it sounds like a break from your current spot is needed !

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    I'm curious what club this is? You could try switching up which shifts you work. Sometimes groups are shitty and won't tip but switching it up could find the dudes that are alone and want the attention and will tip at the rack.
    Everything that miss.a.p said about dialing down the show, because they should tip BEFORE you perform! I do think it's important to look like you're enjoying yourself but not overly exerting yourself for nothing -- I don't want guys to be trained that they will get performance before pay!

    Don't take anything off without getting tipped first. Smile, shake your ass, but make it obvious that you aren't performing because you haven't been tipped.
    I get mad sometimes too but obviously it's just not worth it because usually they won't tip more even if you say something. Also just ignore their asses.

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    LOL I would wave them over and pull my g string to the side and say can you tip me baby? If they tip, I'd make them sit down and continue dancing for them.

    If nothing works, I don't even dance. I start stretching and doing push ups and shit.

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    Default Re: Help, about to put stiletto thru someone's eye socket...

    this sounds irritating as fuck, although I live in england where tipping isnt even a thing, you just have to go on stage for free

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