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    WWW Bill Maher jokes he a "house n*##@"

    So this Bill dude made a joke and I'm slightly confused on what I think about this. 97 percent of the time Im against the usage of racial slurs.

    This is is my opinion but....

    I personally don't see why so much outrage but maybe I'm missing something.

    On one hand, I don't think he was insensitive in saying n!&&@ in his joke because he was referring to himself vs. calling someone else that. And number two he's seems so far from being a racist who uses that word for negative purposes - to intentionally hurt others. And number three, with this word so prevalent in urban culture (even mainstream music, etc) is it really a shock when other races use the word? Plus Comedy is usually more edgy and less politically correct.

    On the other hand, maybe it was insensitive because he does have influence and less intelligent people will see him then go out using the word perhaps recklessly. If the word is offensive even used in joking manner when using it - especially Coming from a non black person - then it seems insensitive. And it does seem sometimes people, especially non blacks, are excited to say something they know is provocative. Maybe Bill pulled a "I'm going to say some provocative shit for ratings and then just apologize (which might be non sincere) later if people get so outraged it fucks up my ratings/money"

    Are you familiar with/Do you watch Bill Maher?

    Should people have been outraged like this?

    Should he have apologized?

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    Default Re: Bill Maher jokes he a "house n*##@"

    I can't say I understand the joke. What exactly is a house n____ referring to?

    Edited to add - I found the reference. To me it's offensive and stupid.


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    Default Re: Bill Maher jokes he a "house n*##@"

    Umm....yeah....much ado about nothing.
    We have a disaster in the Oval Office.
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    Default Re: Bill Maher jokes he a "house n*##@"

    I like Bill Maher, but sometimes he goes too far. Maybe that can be said of every comedian? idk. I think it was a stupid comment and I'm glad he apologized.

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    Lauriel it's like the "privileged" black person back in slave times. I put privilege in quotes because while they were treated better than the field slaves they were still pawns used to create division among other slaves and ..... they were still slaves with minimal rights. But I guess if you were black and lived during slave times and had a choice you'd probably prefer to be a house slave vs field slave.

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    N word has been used frequently and I do not like the word. It's a slang word for bro, dude...etc for some people. But House ni*** is referring to certain slave rank...that's exactly what Bill Maher meant in his interview. So yes, it's offensive. And I bet he use N word when he's not recorded.
    I am not a fan of Bill Maher because I noticed in his show, sometimes he would not allow people have different opinions talk. That's very common these days. If you ask a question, let people talk, even if it's not the answer you want.
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    As a black person I find it offensive but he's a comic so it's not so bad and he's talking about himself. He needed to apologize and learn a lesson but not lose his job. If he was in black face or something else I could see him loosing his show.

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    I think an apology is in order, but I DO think people are overreacting. As Miss.a.p said, he was referring to himself; plus I watched a larger outtake of the interview and he was speaking to a progressive/ liberal politician and I think Maher was making a dig at the view of conservative republicans; who many people consider to be racist (whether they are or not). Understand, I am not making an excuse for his behavior; I did find it offensive however I think that the media and many people are taking it out of context; for one and two he did not have intention to hurt someone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Are you familiar with/Do you watch Bill Maher?

    Should people have been outraged like this?

    Should he have apologized?
    Disclaimer: I'm sure I'm in the minority opinion on this.

    Yes/No
    No
    No

    It wasn't malicious and was a joke in response to an unintentional double entendre his guest (Senator Bill Sasse of Nebraska) made: "We'd love to have you work in the fields with us."

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    Default Re: Bill Maher jokes he a "house n*##@"

    ok I'm over 40 now so please help me on this: the spelling that ends in "a" I hear white kids say all the time and no one ever reacts. One of my favorite shows "Black Jesus" (please watch this show if you haven't) they say the "a" ending form of the word 1000 times per show. It means 20 different things. Did Maher say the "a" ending? Does it make a difference? When I was in school you just didn't say it. There was no white accepted version. Now there seems to be. I've only heard the word used in its old, malignant form by a white person a few times in my life, and each time everyone was too shocked to react. I'm proofing this post and wow do I sound stupid. But whatevs I just want to know.
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    Coming from someone, especially non black people, sounds weird in my opinion (unless it's some movie or theater depicting slave times or some type of art). But if someone were to say it with "er" that's definitely the more offensive version. This Bill dude doesn't strike me as prejudiced so I couldn't see him saying the "er" version. But to some people their is no distinction and both are equally offensive.

    Even coming from blacks it sounds weird to me. It's like why call yourselves that but maybe it's reclaiming or redefining the word like a brotherhood of sorts when they refer to each other using the word.

    And the non white people who say it may think if blacks can say it why can't they, it's just a word, they don't know/care about the history behind it, it's in a rap song/movie, no one is going to tell them what they can't say it's freedom of speech, everyone is so politically correct and sensitive, it's just a joke, they're not using it in a negative context, etc ...... so they say it.


    What Al Sharpton thinks http://pagesix.com/2017/06/04/rev-al...er-over-n-word


    its been predicted Bill done fucked up his chance for an award http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rac...nation-1010016

    Well damn...... He has used the word in public on tv before ...... and yes the "er" version
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...before-1010018
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    its been predicted Bill done fucked up his chance for an award http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rac...nation-1010016
    If uttering one instance of any word invalidates an entire year of a body of work, that just further demonstrates how much of a meaningless circle jerk those award shows are.

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Well damn...... He has used the word in public on tv before ...... and yes the "er" version

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...before-1010018
    Quick Googling shows it was from a Larry King interview on 9/14/2010 though I can't find the previous clip. Given that the link you posted implies it's Hard R this time when it's not, it might not have been last time either.

    This instance (not Hard R):

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    This is the first time he said it in public and yes he said the er version

    The clip from September 2010



    And yeah I'm sure those award shows are just popularity contests. If people go outraged to the point he loses that award there are still other top award shows. I doubt Bill will lose much (maybe a small percentage of fans will be turned off) from this because he wasn't malicious and he gave what seemed like a genuine apology (although it may be fake for ratings because it's hollyweird after all)
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    This is the first time he said it in public and yes he said the er version
    Another disclaimer for what I'm sure is another unpopular opinion.

    After watching the clip, it was just reading between the lines of Newt Gingrich's "loud tribesman" comment about Obama. Honestly it reminds me of this:

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    Omg dude what the hell?!?.......

    Ok i don't know whether to be pissed or laugh

    But I bet his audience was not black though....just sayin

    And yeah people that want to say the word should just say it. Like say it 1000 times just to get it out their system. I don't really get what's so exciting about saying it anyways.

    Plus top comedians are like in that 3% who can get away with pushing the edge a bit further than the average person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Coming from someone, especially non black people, sounds weird in my opinion (unless it's some movie or theater depicting slave times or some type of art). But if someone were to say it with "er" that's definitely the more offensive version. This Bill dude doesn't strike me as prejudiced so I couldn't see him saying the "er" version. But to some people their is no distinction and both are equally offensive.

    Even coming from blacks it sounds weird to me. It's like why call yourselves that but maybe it's reclaiming or redefining the word like a brotherhood of sorts when they refer to each other using the word.

    And the non white people who say it may think if blacks can say it why can't they, it's just a word, they don't know/care about the history behind it, it's in a rap song/movie, no one is going to tell them what they can't say it's freedom of speech, everyone is so politically correct and sensitive, it's just a joke, they're not using it in a negative context, etc ...... so they say it.


    What Al Sharpton thinks http://pagesix.com/2017/06/04/rev-al...er-over-n-word


    its been predicted Bill done fucked up his chance for an award http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rac...nation-1010016

    Well damn...... He has used the word in public on tv before ...... and yes the "er" version
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...before-1010018
    Rev. Al is pretty clear on the subject
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    I understand where Maher was coming from, reacting to 'come work in the fields' and trying to be over clever in his response, like saying, yeah, that's how you treat people like your slaves.

    That said, the word rarely comes into my head[it would not have in the Louis CK routine] and never comes out of my mouth except in direct quotation[I have never had occasion to read Tom Sawyer aloud, but would not hesitate to out of faux political correctness]

    It is not a word I grew up with, not a word I use for any reason, and one that grates when it hits my ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    And yeah people that want to say the word should just say it. Like say it 1000 times just to get it out their system. I don't really get what's so exciting about saying it anyways.
    That's the point of the issue. Would an apology needed if he had said "Senator, please, I'm a house n-word" or "Where has this rhetoric has gone to at this point? It's only 2010. And we have Newt Gingrich, as we were talking about it before, calling him an anti-colonial 'loud tribesman.' 'Loud tribesman,' that's the new 'Kenyan,' Larry. And 'Kenyan,' of course, was code for 'n-word.'"

    There is no fundamental difference in message if you replace the instances of the two words with their respective censored versions. The part that should be important is context, not just "I heard the word, so it's automatically racist." And if anyone takes offense at the uncensored version and not the hypothetical censored version, then the issue is just the word itself, while the underlying message is not racist (and neither quote was).

    I can foresee this going in a bad direction, so maybe the thread should just die.

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    Or maybe that word should die instead of this thread. But if the moderators want to close it then that's on them if that's what they want to do. I do appreciate the viewpoints of the people who posted.

    No I don't think Bill was using the word either time in racist context. But it does seem shocking to me coming from a guy who seems to have not just black friends/girlfriends/associates but an awareness of black culture. But then again he's provocative and not a politically correct kind of guy.

    The point is he is a leader on a large scale platform and not everyone is as wise as the people on this thread. Plus he's a top level comedian who has a bit of leeway to push the limits. This is unlike average joe blow who watches this and like well if bill can say it and get away with it why can't I? THATS what I think he should apologize for (or at least some sort of disclaimer). For giving clueless people the impression they can randomly say words deemed as racial slurs with no repercussions.

    And Notice BOTH times he said the word he was in front of white male panelist?!?.....He know Black people well enough not to say that in front black panelists.

    Also you bring up the point of context. Now there are sociopaths who are very covert with their prejudices, they will say words deemed as slurs then be like - oh it's just a joke, oh I was repeating a rap song, or you're too sensitive I wasn't being intentionally malicious. But this is just a manipulative way of minimizing, being a covert racist, and getting away with it.

    Plus Who has time to decipher a persons true intentions/context once they fixed their mouth to utter a racial slur??? Do you realize how much time it took to create/respond to this thread, dig up that 2010 video, and research bill Maher just to figure out if this dude is covert prejudice so I can decide to keep watching his shows?

    Thats why if a person never says racial slurs you are more likely to know their true intent because they don't get thrills/have a desire to run around saying this kind of stuff even if it is "just a joke".
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    I had two issues with this. This first was the obvious use of a word that should be long gone from our vocabulary. To hear it come from someone who is given air time on a major cable network, regardless of the reference, was mind boggling.

    Perhaps equally problematic or maybe even more so, but not much covered in the media for some reason, was the condescension that this comment showed to anyone who farms for a living. Simply put, he implied that they were all field slaves. Outside of the coast lines and certain urban areas, the vast bulk of this country is comprised of farm land and the people who work hard every day to ensure that food makes it to our stores. The media, itself comprised of mostly latte and wine bar urbanites, may not be thinking much about this issue, but I'm sure that the comparison was not lost on the people who he so casually insulted with this comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Plus Who has time to decipher a persons true intentions/context once they fixed their mouth to utter a racial slur??? Do you realize how much time it took to create/respond to this thread, dig up that 2010 video, and research bill Maher just to figure out if this dude is covert prejudice so I can decide to keep watching his shows?
    For me, about 5 seconds to find the clip with Sasse, and about a minute to find the air date of the 2010 interview with the quote around it where he's interpreting Gingrich's words (albeit not the clip). That's not much time, and I'd rather spend any non-zero amount of time just thinking than jump to that aforementioned "I heard the word, so it's automatically racist" conclusion. It's an incredibly important takeaway: for many people, simply hearing the word evokes strong emotion to the point that logic collapses and they don't evaluate meaning, context, nor connotation. I'm glad you're not amongst them and you took your time to see that the comments weren't racist.

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    I would prefer he not use that word. However one of my favorite Maher jokes was on "Real Time" when he said Osama Bin Laden's compound looked like a building that Mexicans live in & you see it on the news when one of their pit bulls eats a kid (or words to that effect.) I totally laughed b/c Bill is not perfect but he also does not hold back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    but I'm sure that the comparison was not lost on the people who he so casually insulted with this comment.
    Do you think many people living in rural farming communities watch Bill Maher?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    Do you think many people living in rural farming communities watch Bill Maher?
    Farmers don't watch HBO too?

    Now I'm sure that they are not a core component of his viewership, but that's besides the point. The casual disdain he showed for the 3+ million people who we rely upon to provide us our food showed us as much about his character as his use of that particular word. He reminds me of the cable version of an Internet troll, admittedly clever at times, but in a nasty and condescending way. This is the same guy who thought it was ok to say that the President's daughter was giving him blowjobs. Edgy is one thing, but mean-spirited and crude are quite another.

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