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    I've been dancing for just little over a year... however I've met and talked with other dancers thats been dancing for years and years... I mean, we're talking 6+ years. Anyway, we bump into this convo that stripping used to be much more lucrative when they first started. They would make $500+ a night w/o even trying. Now, they claim that they're barely meeting $500 goal in a shift even when they're hustling their ass off. And I'm like damn. Is the strip club industry really dying? But then again, it may be that it's bc they're been dancing for so long, they've gotten lazy over the years and burned out by stripping– so what my DJ said. I mean I guess you can say that all businesses are not doing so great ever since the recession (although we still are recovering from it), but what do you ladies(my fellow dancers) think?

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    I have been dancing for 12.5 years. The money was consistent and way easier to make. And I hustle. I feel like the business is dying.

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    OMG, wow over 12 year!I'm sure you've seen changes over the years... stripping isn't what it used to be. so they say
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    I have been dancing for 12.5 years. The money was consistent and way easier to make. And I hustle. I feel like the business is dying.

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    When I first started, girls were still doing "theme sets" . That doesn't happen anymore. There were A LOT more people spending money freely. I'd have 3 spenders show up at the same time.
    I still have a lot of the same regulars, but a lot of them died off over time. Sime died, some divorced, some lost their jobs, etc.

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    https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/sh...ear-gets-worse

    Older thread about this. Just gonna quote the same reply I made there:

    "Girls have probably been saying this since the advent of stripping tbh, and it's hard to not look at things through a nostalgic lens. But personally when I've actually been accurately tracking earnings, I haven't noticed a huge change from year to year (if anything there's been a little improvement just from being a better hustler and being smarter about where I choose to work).

    However I think there's a lot of reasons why it might appear there is less money than there used to be in stripping, that aren't necessarily the industry dying:

    -Inflation. Dance prices in most areas have remained stagnant since the dawn of time. $20 (or even $10!) dances just used to have a lot more buying power at the end of the night than they do now.
    -the Internet. It's less "omg free porn is ruining us" etc (although that doesn't help) but many high paying fetish customers who used to have to come into a strip club and hope they could find a stripper who would play out their fantasies (and in so doing became loyal regulars) now can simply navigate sites geared to that looking for a provider or search camgirls from the comfort of their own keyboard.
    -more girls willing to give it a shot. As stripping is (slowly) becoming more socially accepted, clubs have an easier time finding girls. They don't have to offer as many perks as they used to, and can confidently charge high house fees etc. If you don't want to pay them or put up with their bs and strict scheduling, guess what, there's another girl that will gladly do so.
    -personal standards increasing. As you gain skill at the job, what you accepted as a good night a year ago may no longer be the case. I think when a lot of us started dancing, making e.g. $250 cash in one night was awesome! Now any night that is less than $350 is a literal waste of time, why even leave the house etc.
    -failure to reach peak hustle after the "baby stripper" stage wears off. This one kills a lot of girls; there's a reason it seems like so many dancers are in for about 6 months and then vanish. At first, fresh newbies start with a bright glow and the money just seems to flow to them without having to really hustle. But once that aura is gone, many girls don't ever evolve into the phase where they become a seasoned hustler, and they see a big money slump. They will often be found in the dressing room pining for the days when all it took was prancing around the floor and somebody would whisk them off to vip- the industry didn't change, they did. After the newbie money dries up, girls should be investing time in honing their stripper skills and persona, and trying different clubs, travel, etc. Camping out in the same club for years and not spending any time on personal development is a recipe for declining earnings year to year.

    Ultimately you can't control the economy, but you can focus on doing everything you're able to do in order to maximize your own potential earnings. And keeping a positive mindset is incredibly helpful- just because OTHER girls are making less, it doesn't mean you are doomed to earn less. And if your club is in the middle of a slump, rather than stressing out about it and riding it till the end, take the opportunity to give a different club a shot.

    (P.S. this isnt' necessarily directed at OP, idk how many apply to you personally, but it's good general advice cause I have been hearing this over and over from girls for half a decade now, and yet the industry still exists)"

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    No, if anything it is growing. In my city alone, new clubs are popping up left and right. More girls are wanting to strip to pay for tuition or live this glamorous lifestyle they see on IG and now stripping isn't as taboo as it used to be. What I do think is changing is the dividing line between different types of sex work.

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    Those girls sound tired and fed up and need to quit, or go somewhere else. If you're doing fine, then don't listen to anyone.

    I don't think it's dead, but I have seen changes in general. Party crowds hanging out. Feeling like regular nightclubs. Girls doing too much for so little, or nothing in return. I see this a lot.

    That said, I've been dancing for a long time and my experience has been working in my favor.

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    I'm just tired of hearing veteran dancers bitching and moaning about how it used to be so good back in the days. I started 5 years ago and it was a lot better than it is now. All you need is that one guy to make your night!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_baby View Post
    All you need is that one guy to make your night!
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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    Yea, I see it as, some people like to see a movie, some people like a live performance.
    Although w/camming, it's more interactive.
    I blame the clubs in my area they advertise as 'Adult Nightclub' trying to get more business by appealing to a wider audience but it fucks it up for the dancers.


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    Yes, the stripclub/nightclub mashup theme has to goooooooo. I wanna smack the asshole who came up with that idea. Lol.

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    I'll join in on the delusional positivity. No this industry is not going to hell in a handbasket. We all make thousands of dollars every night and then go home to our magical palaces where tiny unicorns dance around and shit out rainbow cupcakes.
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    I don't know. My money has stayed fairly consistent for the past 2 years. However, I would hear stories of dancers routinely making $4000 a night back in the early 2000s. Is it bullshit? Maybe. But I know for a fact dancers nowadays do not routinely make $4000 a night.

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    When I started 5 years ago, it was pretty similar. I can't say much has changed. But I think sex workers 10+ years ago were in a completely different situation, before free porn and the recession. The economy and culture changed, so it only makes sense that this affected our business.

    This subject has come up a lot on SW. Sure, things used to be different, but times change and we learn to adapt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    No, if anything it is growing. In my city alone, new clubs are popping up left and right. More girls are wanting to strip to pay for tuition or live this glamorous lifestyle they see on IG and now stripping isn't as taboo as it used to be. What I do think is changing is the dividing line between different types of sex work.
    I agree as in there are more girls trying to get into the business, but less customers through the doors here in SFL. the clubs are overcrowded with girls. A big club here that I used to work at in 2011 had 40-50 girls then and now they have 80 on roster! eww!!

    and people are so freakin' cheap. but they have always been here lol.

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    A lot has changed for sure maybe not in the last few years but the early 2000's for sure. back then people did not come in to just hang out, it was taboo not cool, hardly ever got females unless they were apart of city boys group out with clients etc or escorts with dudes. It was cleaner too and less of a hustle. Now there are females trying to be cool along with broke dudes just hanging out. Also now dudes expect a lot and a lot of new girls think extras are normal. Back when I started girls were fired for rumors of extras and smallest of touching. Miss those days.
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    Nope. And don't listen to people who say it is. If you wanna make money, you have to have a positive attitude. If you have a negative attitude/ are burnt out/ thinking about the "good ol days", it's time to take a break or quit. Being positive about your money is not being delusional unless you are straight up lying to yourself saying you love your job/ stripping when you actually hate it and suck at it. It's getting better each year for me, I've been dancing for 4 years and each year my avg goes up. It's about how *you* hustle (not the economy, not the industry changing), and how you can adapt to the environment. If you're not adapting, and if you're expecting things to be the way they were 10+ years ago... I'm sorry but I don't know what to say to that kind of naivety. Industries change. You either adapt and thrive, or you moan and complain and lose money.

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    The ship's not completely sunk, but it is going down. I don't hate my job and I don't suck at it. I'm not quitting anytime soon because I'm damn good at my job. I'm just not going to subscribe to the baby stripper brand of naivite that thinks positive thinking is enough to save this industry.
    Think what you like, but the ship is sinking. It's not a question of if, it's when.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chanzep View Post
    A lot has changed for sure maybe not in the last few years but the early 2000's for sure. back then people did not come in to just hang out, it was taboo not cool, hardly ever got females unless they were apart of city boys group out with clients etc or escorts with dudes. It was cleaner too and less of a hustle. Now there are females trying to be cool along with broke dudes just hanging out. Also now dudes expect a lot and a lot of new girls think extras are normal. Back when I started girls were fired for rumors of extras and smallest of touching. Miss those days.

    I totally agree with this. Even tho I didn't work back in those days.. but I have been dancing 4+ years or so (took 1 yr. off); and even in that time frame I have noticed a lot of changes. Just with travel dancing you can see change happen in cities too from one year to the next. (ie. Austin TX is rampant with extras now but it wasn't as bad as when I travel danced there);
    I also have noticed a looot more girls coming into the clubs with party crowds, or just generally to hang out with dudes, or guys that insist on dragging their gf in; trying to land a 3some out of it. I feel like how the dating world with tinder and loose morals in society and feminism (women fucking like men anyhow) makes our industry less enticing and hurts business.
    I have managed to keep my money the same, if not higher at times than when I first learned to hustle; but I have noticed it is different... the biggest difference being a lot more middle class/broke people coming in (and clubs allowing it just for the drink sale!), and the vast majority of customers desiring the "slutty" girl over the "super hot" girl... hence why clubs are a lot less picky with their quality of girls as well, a general customer really wants to spend his money on the mediocre 6 that grinds on him the most that he actually has a shot fucking than the fantasy 10 that he knows he has no chance with.


    It's sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC.Bianca View Post
    I totally agree with this. Even tho I didn't work back in those days.. but I have been dancing 4+ years or so (took 1 yr. off); and even in that time frame I have noticed a lot of changes. Just with travel dancing you can see change happen in cities too from one year to the next. (ie. Austin TX is rampant with extras now but it wasn't as bad as when I travel danced there);
    I also have noticed a looot more girls coming into the clubs with party crowds, or just generally to hang out with dudes, or guys that insist on dragging their gf in; trying to land a 3some out of it. I feel like how the dating world with tinder and loose morals in society and feminism (women fucking like men anyhow) makes our industry less enticing and hurts business.
    I have managed to keep my money the same, if not higher at times than when I first learned to hustle; but I have noticed it is different... the biggest difference being a lot more middle class/broke people coming in (and clubs allowing it just for the drink sale!), and the vast majority of customers desiring the "slutty" girl over the "super hot" girl... hence why clubs are a lot less picky with their quality of girls as well, a general customer really wants to spend his money on the mediocre 6 that grinds on him the most that he actually has a shot fucking than the fantasy 10 that he knows he has no chance with.


    It's sad.
    Let's turn that frown upside down! Don't you know all it takes is positive thinking to save this industry!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by littlelizard View Post
    I don't know. My money has stayed fairly consistent for the past 2 years. However, I would hear stories of dancers routinely making $4000 a night back in the early 2000s. Is it bullshit? Maybe. But I know for a fact dancers nowadays do not routinely make $4000 a night.
    I know of corporate clubs where girls can make that much in one night BUT the club takes half for hooking her up with the opportunity.

    It is harder for a lot of people in a lot of industries. Real estate isn't the picnic it used to be for many workers. Finance changed. The world had been rapidly changing over the past few decades & we have to change with it...

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    Adapt or die. Not sure what I'm doing yet. If I am going extinct it's a pretty slow, luxurious extinction.
    And I'm doing it with my eyes wide open and not having my head shoved up my ass.
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    My money's been consistently better each year despite my complaining. Sometimes I feel like "All the money is gone! Oh woe is me!" but then I break out my journal and compare my income from last year or the year before and realize it's all in my head for the most part (I'm currently having a decent time at work, so I'm more positive atm). That being said, back in the 90's I'm sure it was better for several reasons; including a healthier middle class as well as fewer competing markets (like online porn). But then again, strip clubs are still pretty much the only legal/safe place you're going to see and interact with a number of living, breathing, naked woman in the real world (and one that is sexually attractive and willing to perform for you; try doing that at a nude beach). So is it dying? I don't think so. Is it as lucrative as before? No, there are a number of factors that have negatively affected a demand for our industry. Another factor is how the public is coming to accept sexuality in our culture. So yeah, the future doesn't look crazy bright for the strip club industry, but it'll be a while before it's no longer worth working as a stripper. This job has always been a "take the money and run" kind of affair. I'm going to dance as long as I can, but yeah, I'd def have something to fall back on just in case laws change or technology creates more competing markets to deal with. But I'm not too worried, I don't really see this industry leaving in the next 10 or 20 years.

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    Default Re: Is the trip club industry dying

    strip clubs will never disappear, it is just harder to make money. who knows, maybe it will get better again?

    I agree with female customers in the club, lately a lot of strip clubs here are confused with night clubs with people actually dancing WTF

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    I don't think strip clubs will go away anytime soon but unfortunately the money just isn't what it used to be. It's not as lucrative and it's not a job you can rely on anymore or do by itself. A lot of strippers have day jobs or they see guys OTC during slow times (which are frequent). Stripping was never meant to be a career choice but now that isn't even an option anymore because of how bad it's gotten. Escorting, cam modeling, and being a sugar baby is where most of the money is at now a days.

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