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    I lived in LA for a couple of years working as a dom, surviving as a sugarbaby and dancing so I'm seasoned in the industry you could say. It's a tough city. I drove out to OC clubs to make a living and survive. Clubs kept losing more and more customers. Last time I went to a club in LA, it was just depressing. The clubs take so much in fees from the dancers and the customers expect a lot of touching and extras.

    why though?

    Isnt LA supposed to be glam and money? Even escorts (the average escort, not the few elite ones making bank) struggle out there. I've seen beautiful women going for as low as 200 per hour.

    can anyone explain?

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    Because of the supply and demand of hot girls out there. Too many girls to choose from when there is less customers in the club. It causes girls to do more touching/extras in order to one-up the other dancers for their money.

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    Because of the supply and demand of hot girls out there. Too many girls to choose from when there is less customers in the club. It causes girls to do more touching/extras in order to one-up the other dancers for their money.
    I understand that much but there's no customers in the clubs. Try are mostly empty.

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    Yep my current la club is becoming crazy dead too. I'm shopping around for a second club right now.

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    I'm actually right on board with you, wondering why the clubs there are the way they are. Someone on this board actually told me it's a statewide issue, that for whatever reason the guys simply don't want to go out and spend. A member of another, more escort-centric board I'm a member of mentioned that many guys in California are asset rich, but cash-poor. This particular girl lived in Chicago before and did not have nearly this level of struggle she currently has in LA. So most likely, this explanation applies to strip clubs too-that is, guys have the assets they can't touch via inheritance or whatnot, but not as much cold, hard liquid cash they've actually had to work for.

    I sold my car (took a huge loss on it, actually), packed my uh, stuff, and am out out. I feel very sad about it, but hope it's for the best, and I know I'll miss it. I'll come back to it if I can (in my dream world, as CA is much to expensive for anyone on a normal person budget) but I simply cannot work in LA in this line of work anymore. I, too, pretty much tried everything in the sex work biz. I've done the whole sugar baby thing via the sites, though we can all probably think of alternative names for that-admittedly, I haven't done it too much via meeting men in real life. I've not done dom. I've definitely danced, and escorted.

    I love LA but it's hard for this biz! When I first moved, I'd make my money travel-dancing and simply bring it in and take time off and enjoy/live in LA. The past year, however, I got into some hobbies that required my being stationary in LA, and so I tried to find a stable place to work to meet my financial goals but with no luck. I stressed myself out trying to meet my goals with minimum of 2k/week, enough to save at least half.

    I was actually wondering today where do all the people that live in Southern CA get all their money, men or women alike. It's like it's part of the culture to be cavalier about all the material luxury one can afford but when it comes to pay for services, like adult entertainment, we as dancers are treated like walking charity to the rich. Is it a haven for the independently wealthy? That is, those who've never had to work for anything, or those that inherit enough to get a good starting track in life such that they don't need to build a foundation for themselves like we all are doing via this business? Or is the culture in Southern CA such that people use relationships to get to where they want to in life, rather than the more direct mode of time for money, dance for money, etc? Is the culture more hyper-sexual than most other places? Since entertainment is so big in Southern CA: Are all entertainment people-who could potentially be our customers but choose not to be-lame lame lame because they are just that much better?

    It bothered me so much that some of the places I worked at had people with an obscene amount of money but if they were from LA, most likely they were unlikely to spend. When I traveled, never had I encountered a guy from SF or LA that I guessed correctly would be a whale. The only escort client I had from LA over the course of my five years there had repeatedly mentioned about wanting to "settle down," most likely trying to get freebies just like practically every single man I've encountered and had relations with in LA outside of the business. Maybe LA, however nice it is to your face, is a much more classist and sexist place than is obvious. Just because the place is beautiful does not mean it's people are beautiful, at least on the inside.
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    I think that the men who are most likely to be good, spendy SC customers are just not guys who live in progressive cities like LA proper and SF. Those men are conservative or somewhat middle-of-the-road, act like boring adults and have traditional 9-5 jobs, probably have a wife and kids, and have absolutely no reason to be spending lots of money to rent in Hollywood or Silverlake when they'd be just as happy in the burbs. So they live in the burbs, but with LA traffic being what it is, they're definitely not going to make it over to the clubs in the city except once in a great while.

    Men who live in LA are too young and poor to go to strip clubs, or they're older but still too poor. Or they have some money but have more of a progressive dude mindset which makes them less inclined toward the old-fashioned trade of male money for female sexuality -- they want a more genuine connection, want to be an object of desire. Or they are foxy enough that in LA's dating scene, they already get plenty of "free" attention from attractive women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigershoes View Post
    I think that the men who are most likely to be good, spendy SC customers are just not guys who live in progressive cities like LA proper and SF. Those men are conservative or somewhat middle-of-the-road, act like boring adults and have traditional 9-5 jobs, probably have a wife and kids, and have absolutely no reason to be spending lots of money to rent in Hollywood or Silverlake when they'd be just as happy in the burbs. So they live in the burbs, but with LA traffic being what it is, they're definitely not going to make it over to the clubs in the city except once in a great while.

    Men who live in LA are too young and poor to go to strip clubs, or they're older but still too poor. Or they have some money but have more of a progressive dude mindset which makes them less inclined toward the old-fashioned trade of male money for female sexuality -- they want a more genuine connection, want to be an object of desire. Or they are foxy enough that in LA's dating scene, they already get plenty of "free" attention from attractive women.
    A lot of rich guys don't even have to pay for sex. Women will come around and hang out and bang just to experience the lifestyle for a short while. It's pretty sad actually. Those guys are assholes

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    Quote Originally Posted by babygrrrl View Post
    A lot of rich guys don't even have to pay for sex. Women will come around and hang out and bang just to experience the lifestyle for a short while. It's pretty sad actually. Those guys are assholes
    I don't think that's necessarily true. Maybe guys who like to abuse their wealthy status because they've inherited all their money and "family businesses", so they feel entitled to pretty much anything and everything in life, material or not.

    Speaking about rich guys, there seems to be no age limit either with the entitlement for sex. I had one guy in his 50s or 60s + try to hit on me in the club so hard, it got to the point where I was starting to warm up to him, thinking that maybe he was just a really nice guy. Then, one of my work friends told me that he gave her money to meet him in private. So basically, he's just an overage-player-turned-john. He was actually trying to use his material possessions, like his "sick cars", "sick house"-best of the best everything-to get me to hang out with him.

    Like, why would I care? And of course, he refused to spend a dime in the strip club. He was one of those weirdos who'd come in and just "hang out," and it was allowed in this particular strip club. And I wasn't sure whether he was sugar daddy material before, and I didn't want to waste my time. I've gone out with guys from strip clubs before, and they've either insulted me or hurt me by using/playing me. All my fault, I know but nonetheless.

    I don't really want to experience wealthy. I want to have my cash in hand, so I can pick and choose how much of the "wealth-y experience" I want to buy for myself, whether it be material possessions, access to health/education/housing/transport (in the us: these are not rights, they are privileges, after all), or travel.

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    When people say LA, do they mean Los Angeles city or the LA county in general? Just wondering because I'm in San Gabriel. City of Industry and Pomona are the closest cities with clubs to me. I've heard COI was known for extras. Then I hear OC is kind of picky and racist. I'm still considering where to try.

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    The only money I ever really made in LA in the clubs was def off the drunk tourists LOL not the locals EVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSugarMonster View Post
    I'm actually right on board with you, wondering why the clubs there are the way they are. Someone on this board actually told me it's a statewide issue, that for whatever reason the guys simply don't want to go out and spend. A member of another, more escort-centric board I'm a member of mentioned that many guys in California are asset rich, but cash-poor. This particular girl lived in Chicago before and did not have nearly this level of struggle she currently has in LA. So most likely, this explanation applies to strip clubs too-that is, guys have the assets they can't touch via inheritance or whatnot, but not as much cold, hard liquid cash they've actually had to work for.

    I sold my car (took a huge loss on it, actually), packed my uh, stuff, and am out out. I feel very sad about it, but hope it's for the best, and I know I'll miss it. I'll come back to it if I can (in my dream world, as CA is much to expensive for anyone on a normal person budget) but I simply cannot work in LA in this line of work anymore. I, too, pretty much tried everything in the sex work biz. I've done the whole sugar baby thing via the sites, though we can all probably think of alternative names for that-admittedly, I haven't done it too much via meeting men in real life. I've not done dom. I've definitely danced, and escorted.

    I love LA but it's hard for this biz! When I first moved, I'd make my money travel-dancing and simply bring it in and take time off and enjoy/live in LA. The past year, however, I got into some hobbies that required my being stationary in LA, and so I tried to find a stable place to work to meet my financial goals but with no luck. I stressed myself out trying to meet my goals with minimum of 2k/week, enough to save at least half.

    I was actually wondering today where do all the people that live in Southern CA get all their money, men or women alike. It's like it's part of the culture to be cavalier about all the material luxury one can afford but when it comes to pay for services, like adult entertainment, we as dancers are treated like walking charity to the rich. Is it a haven for the independently wealthy? That is, those who've never had to work for anything, or those that inherit enough to get a good starting track in life such that they don't need to build a foundation for themselves like we all are doing via this business? Or is the culture in Southern CA such that people use relationships to get to where they want to in life, rather than the more direct mode of time for money, dance for money, etc? Is the culture more hyper-sexual than most other places? Since entertainment is so big in Southern CA: Are all entertainment people-who could potentially be our customers but choose not to be-lame lame lame because they are just that much better?

    It bothered me so much that some of the places I worked at had people with an obscene amount of money but if they were from LA, most likely they were unlikely to spend. When I traveled, never had I encountered a guy from SF or LA that I guessed correctly would be a whale. The only escort client I had from LA over the course of my five years there had repeatedly mentioned about wanting to "settle down," most likely trying to get freebies just like practically every single man I've encountered and had relations with in LA outside of the business. Maybe LA, however nice it is to your face, is a much more classist and sexist place than is obvious. Just because the place is beautiful does not mean it's people are beautiful, at least on the inside.
    I never met anyone in LA who worked (in the traditional sense). I lived there for 32 years.
    All of my friends were either celebrities, married wealth, or were trust fund babies.
    My fellow strippers were escorts on the side, or had some other hustle going on.
    I even met tons of poor people who were living in govt subsidized housing, collected disability, and food stamps, and yet had a brand new car every year. Go figure.
    Everyone kept their good close to the vest, yet wanted to know about everything I was doing, and wanted me to share with them.
    LA has the most selfish, self serving people on the planet.
    So glad I'm out f that cesspool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glamourmilf View Post
    I never met anyone in LA who worked (in the traditional sense). I lived there for 32 years.
    All of my friends were either celebrities, married wealth, or were trust fund babies.
    My fellow strippers were escorts on the side, or had some other hustle going on.
    I even met tons of poor people who were living in govt subsidized housing, collected disability, and food stamps, and yet had a brand new car every year. Go figure.
    Everyone kept their good close to the vest, yet wanted to know about everything I was doing, and wanted me to share with them.
    LA has the most selfish, self serving people on the planet.
    So glad I'm out f that cesspool.
    Amen. Agree with so many points

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    On POINT.
    Quote Originally Posted by tigershoes View Post
    I think that the men who are most likely to be good, spendy SC customers are just not guys who live in progressive cities like LA proper and SF. Those men are conservative or somewhat middle-of-the-road, act like boring adults and have traditional 9-5 jobs, probably have a wife and kids, and have absolutely no reason to be spending lots of money to rent in Hollywood or Silverlake when they'd be just as happy in the burbs. So they live in the burbs, but with LA traffic being what it is, they're definitely not going to make it over to the clubs in the city except once in a great while.

    Men who live in LA are too young and poor to go to strip clubs, or they're older but still too poor. Or they have some money but have more of a progressive dude mindset which makes them less inclined toward the old-fashioned trade of male money for female sexuality -- they want a more genuine connection, want to be an object of desire. Or they are foxy enough that in LA's dating scene, they already get plenty of "free" attention from attractive women.
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    The girls that are camming seem alot hotter than 5 yrs ago so spendin more $$ there now.

    They even do private cams & dont charge alot.

    Wasnt a big $$ club spender but did go alot & it added up.

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    If LA wasn't a bad spot for stripping filled with Peter Pan men, I'd be there in a second. I love California, but LA men are super spoiled. I can see why....

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    Maybe because the whole population does?

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    LA men. Peter Pan Syndrome. In one sentence. I'm not surprised.

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    Thanking prior posters for some interesting theories/perspectives. Did any posters worked at any LAX airport area clubs ? It seems to me those clubs would have a lower percentage of self entitled natives and thus a higher percentage of out of town travelers who would appreciate the hot So Cal women more ? Also being near aerospace industry would have (more or less) "normal" folks working for a living.

    Also, doesn't Los Angeles area have it's share of conventions ? While maybe not as much as Vegas, clubs near convention hotels would seem to get more out of towners. OTOH, many clubs that I visited didn't have hotels within walking distance.
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    I once read that in smaller towns/cities, people are more inclined to focus on looks when it comes to dating. This is bc (no use being pc) in such areas there's fewer hotties.

    In contrast, in larger cities where beautiful people are a dime a dozen, people are less likely to focus on a potential partners looks. They're more likely to scrutinize accomplishments, finances, personality, etc. etc.

    Despite LA being notoriously image obsessed, I have to wonder if this mindset factors into why the LA strip scene sucks. Perhaps guys there are less likely to fantasize about strippers bc there's equally beautiful women everywhere there? They might be more analytical/critical of the whole situation.

    The extortionate cost of living for the average person leaves customers with less disposable income too. They say you need to make $54,000 a year AT LEAST to live comfortably in LA. But only 15% of Americans make $50k or more a year. The rich aren't the main stimulators of the economy, the working and middle class are. But they have limited disposable income these days. You can't spend what you don't have.

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    The only money I ever really made in LA in the clubs was def off the drunk tourists LOL not the locals EVER.
    Maybe that's because so many LA clubs operate like tourist traps. I travel to LA once or twice per year and I've visited a number of clubs. I have never had a good experience in one, with the notable exception of Sam's Hofbrau, which was decent. In virtually every one, the clubs were using inventive ways to pick my pockets even before the first girl, undoubtedly a "porn star" or having some other accomplishment to tout, started in with her own efforts.

    Now I don't disagree with comments on here about LA men. I can barely stand sitting at a bar in LA as I can't go 10 minutes without a local trying to regal me with tales of himself and his many accomplishments. But for the reasons noted above, if I was a local I would probably avoid most of those clubs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babygrrrl View Post
    A lot of rich guys don't even have to pay for sex. Women will come around and hang out and bang just to experience the lifestyle for a short while. It's pretty sad actually. Those guys are assholes
    Why are they Assholes if they dont have to pay for sex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Maybe that's because so many LA clubs operate like tourist traps. I travel to LA once or twice per year and I've visited a number of clubs. I have never had a good experience in one, with the notable exception of Sam's Hofbrau, which was decent. In virtually every one, the clubs were using inventive ways to pick my pockets even before the first girl, undoubtedly a "porn star" or having some other accomplishment to tout, started in with her own efforts.
    You are going to the wrong clubs, there are plenty of excellent clubs and excellent dancers who will treat you with respect and class in LA.

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    Now I don't disagree with comments on here about LA men. I can barely stand sitting at a bar in LA as I can't go 10 minutes without a local trying to regal me with tales of himself and his many accomplishments. But for the reasons noted above, if I was a local I would probably avoid most of those clubs too.
    Why is talking about ones accomplishments, some how wrong? Go to a park, drink in your hotel room. Sorry in LA we are offending you by being friendly.
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    Hey, LongDong are you having a really bad day or something? Sheesh.

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    I have a new theory about why LA clubs so much. Maybe it's because the men there are complete and utter garbage? Just recently relocated to NY, and first time in a very long while since living in LA, I've actually had a man ask me on a proper date, not to just to screw. On the flight out from the West Coast to The East, I had an Orange County guy ask me if I've ever done "It" on a plane, then he persisted to tell me he had a hotel room in midtown and that he visits frequently. This is the caliber of men in Los Angeles, and that is why LA clubs suck.

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