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    Default Slow hustle + young guys = help?

    As most of y'all know, my club of several years closed this year. My new club is quite the hike away & I thus lost all my regulars & have to depend on whatever comes in the door *big sad face*

    My old club was very high volume, a bit more contact & a 2 song hustle. If you don't click with the crowd, wait half an hour and someone will come in that you DO fit with. My regulars were all middle-aged businessmen or retired guys. The young guys were easy enough to get a couple $10 dances out of them at least.

    This new place is pretty low volume (so there are not options, you better hustle whatever comes in that door). It's a much slower hustle (it's not uncommon to see girls sit for 30 mins at the bar with a guy), and it's also not terribly friendly towards guys without a lot of cash - you basically can't touch at all until you drop at least $100 and the no-contact floor dances are $20. I can make a lot of money easily when we get the crowd it's geared towards.

    What I'm having issue with is the slow nights when we get crowds of the young guys. Sunday night, there were half a dozen of us who made like $50 because we just don't like/don't know how to hustle these idiots.
    The girls who were getting anything from them were sitting with them for ages. Yet... they were getting money from them... and that's what matters when there's no other customer options.

    I don't mind having to sit for so long when there's nothing else to do in the club anyway but these guys are a different beast to me. I had the luxury of largely ignoring them for most of my career. I just utterly cannot relate to them at all. They're younger than me, they're dumb as bricks, they have no hobbies or interests to talk about, etc. If I play the dumb blonde or feign interest/being attracted, they want my number or to come 'party' with them after we close. If I do the sultry bit, I intimidate & turn them off that way.

    Anyone have a good strategy for this situation?
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    Default Re: Slow hustle + young guys = help?

    My least favorite type of customer. My usual persona is a bitch...which has always worked for some reason. With the bro crowd I have to go party girl with bitch undertones. I usually pick one out of the group to roast a little. Like tonight I asked this guy if he shopped in the children's dept. It gets them laughing and more entertaining the group rather than attempting one on one with an idiot. To avoid the "what's up after this" line I try to avoid anything even some what personal. Talk about the most generic, superficial shit possible. Sports, Kim K's ass, do lizards get sunburns. I'm definitely not a master of the bro/frat boy crowd but this is the only way I've ever been able to get money out of them.

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    Default Re: Slow hustle + young guys = help?

    Yeah that sounds like day shift but worse because of the young dude factor.

    First I'd call all the dancers in the DR and get everyone to agree to pick up the pace and hustle faster. But it requires dancers to come from a mindset of "no matter how slow it looks there is enough for everyone" and "I will stick to 15 min hustle unless dude is whale potential"

    The girls spending 30+ min are fearful if they don't close the sale and get up after 10-15 min they won't make money and this is not necessarily true.

    The customers will have to be trained that "when I go to Pussy Palace, I know I won't be able to get away with sitting around with a dancer for 30+ min without paying a hefty fee and if I go in on some cheap bullshit I will get ignored"

    I don't give two shits if you the only customer and just came for a beer you will not sit here and gawk and act cheap because you will get hustled hard to the point you either spend or leave.

    One day at the club here, there were 5 dancers and one customer (poor "Bob" lol) well Bob thought he was going to just sit and gawk because he was the only customer during the day shift which usually is leverage for the man but not that day. The dancers came together and agreed to shall we say fast paced strong hustle. One dancer would hustle for 10-15 min then if he had the gall to say no the next dancer would go immediately after and hustle for same time frame, rinse and repeat, basically wear him down until he either says yes to someone or gets annoyed that he can't sit there all day and gawk and stare for free.

    Sometimes you have to run off the non spenders or slow as fucking molasses spenders. The devious men know when the club is slow and girls hungry for money they can pull these shenanigans but sometimes you have to let them know you'd rather be in a empty ass club playing candy crush than sitting 30+ min with their cheap conniving asses while they hem and haw over whether to spend or not.

    Oh and I would be careful spending 30+ min with them because it trains them to take thirty or more minutes to decide to buy AND only spend this time with dudes with high spend potential (covertly glance in their wallet, notice how much they tip support staff, etc) because last thing you want is to spend 30+ minutes convincing him to spend and this trick only buys 1 dance......
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    yeah that sounds like day shift but worse because of the young dude factor.

    First i'd call all the dancers in the dr and get everyone to agree to pick up the pace and hustle faster. But it requires dancers to come from a mindset of "no matter how slow it looks there is enough for everyone" and "i will stick to 15 min hustle unless dude is whale potential"

    the girls spending 30+ min are fearful if they don't close the sale and get up after 10-15 min they won't make money and this is not necessarily true.

    The customers will have to be trained that "when i go to pussy palace, i know i won't be able to get away with sitting around with a dancer for 30+ min without paying a hefty fee and if i go in on some cheap bullshit i will get ignored"

    i don't give two shits if you the only customer and just came for a beer you will not sit here and gawk and act cheap because you will get hustled hard to the point you either spend or leave.

    One day at the club here, there were 5 dancers and one customer (poor "bob" lol) well bob thought he was going to just sit and gawk because he was the only customer during the day shift which usually is leverage for the man but not that day. The dancers came together and agreed to shall we say fast paced strong hustle. One dancer would hustle for 10-15 min then if he had the gall to say no the next dancer would go immediately after and hustle for same time frame, rinse and repeat, basically wear him down until he either says yes to someone or gets annoyed that he can't sit there all day and gawk and stare for free.

    Sometimes you have to run off the non spenders or slow as fucking molasses spenders. The devious men know when the club is slow and girls hungry for money they can pull these shenanigans but sometimes you have to let them know you'd rather be in a empty ass club playing candy crush than sitting 30+ min with their cheap conniving asses while they hem and haw over whether to spend or not.

    Oh and i would be careful spending 30+ min with them because it trains them to take thirty or more minutes to decide to buy and only spend this time with dudes with high spend potential (covertly glance in their wallet, notice how much they tip support staff, etc) because last thing you want is to spend 30+ minutes convincing him to spend and this trick only buys 1 dance......
    love this response!

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    i hate when it's slow and dancers reward non spending behavior. i don't care how cute or funny you are, i prefer looking at my phone than talking to your broke ass.

    imo this is probably a club culture and hard to change if guys are used to it. you need to make them feel stupid for non spending. i've started appealing to their ego or manhood using words like 'gentlemen' or 'real men are spenders' etc. surprisingly i've gotten good results.

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    Younger guys do have a few positive sides for the hustle -they are stupid and they get horny very fast, which is a great deal for manipulation. You need to get physically "closer" to them in terms of sitting on their lap right away, lightly touching them and flirting. The conversation part does not work for them. These quys require "the shortest distance" hustle. It means -they don't have much brain to work with -you need to manipulate them by body language. As long as you manage a single dance from them -it's very easy to keep manipulating them further. You can play things "I just broke up with my boyfriend", "I need a boyfriend", "Damn, I am so horny". Another thing -if you see a potential in this guy -offer him one half-price dance, or 2 for 1 (because he is so hot and sexy that you really want to dance for him). You don't lose much (besides just walking around with no money and with a bad mood). But that one break though deal can potentially gain you a customer for a few more dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirocco View Post
    Younger guys do have a few positive sides for the hustle -they are stupid and they get horny very fast, which is a great deal for manipulation. You need to get physically "closer" to them in terms of sitting on their lap right away, lightly touching them and flirting. The conversation part does not work for them. These quys require "the shortest distance" hustle. It means -they don't have much brain to work with -you need to manipulate them by body language. As long as you manage a single dance from them -it's very easy to keep manipulating them further. You can play things "I just broke up with my boyfriend", "I need a boyfriend", "Damn, I am so horny". Another thing -if you see a potential in this guy -offer him one half-price dance, or 2 for 1 (because he is so hot and sexy that you really want to dance for him). You don't lose much (besides just walking around with no money and with a bad mood). But that one break though deal can potentially gain you a customer for a few more dances.


    sorry but NO DON'T OFFER 2 FOR 1 I highly doubt that will lead to him becoming a big spender.

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    Honestly, I'd find greener pastures. Travel dance or find another club where you don't have to deal with that crap.
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    I did not mean that they will become big spenders. But if there is a situation -girls can't move to other club or whatever reason -and they need at least some money that night. Even a few dances are better then nothing. But I agree that in the long run -change the club, go to the other city for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Yeah that sounds like day shift but worse because of the young dude factor.

    First I'd call all the dancers in the DR and get everyone to agree to pick up the pace and hustle faster. But it requires dancers to come from a mindset of "no matter how slow it looks there is enough for everyone" and "I will stick to 15 min hustle unless dude is whale potential"

    The girls spending 30+ min are fearful if they don't close the sale and get up after 10-15 min they won't make money and this is not necessarily true.

    The customers will have to be trained that "when I go to Pussy Palace, I know I won't be able to get away with sitting around with a dancer for 30+ min without paying a hefty fee and if I go in on some cheap bullshit I will get ignored"

    I don't give two shits if you the only customer and just came for a beer you will not sit here and gawk and act cheap because you will get hustled hard to the point you either spend or leave.

    One day at the club here, there were 5 dancers and one customer (poor "Bob" lol) well Bob thought he was going to just sit and gawk because he was the only customer during the day shift which usually is leverage for the man but not that day. The dancers came together and agreed to shall we say fast paced strong hustle. One dancer would hustle for 10-15 min then if he had the gall to say no the next dancer would go immediately after and hustle for same time frame, rinse and repeat, basically wear him down until he either says yes to someone or gets annoyed that he can't sit there all day and gawk and stare for free.

    Sometimes you have to run off the non spenders or slow as fucking molasses spenders. The devious men know when the club is slow and girls hungry for money they can pull these shenanigans but sometimes you have to let them know you'd rather be in a empty ass club playing candy crush than sitting 30+ min with their cheap conniving asses while they hem and haw over whether to spend or not.

    Oh and I would be careful spending 30+ min with them because it trains them to take thirty or more minutes to decide to buy AND only spend this time with dudes with high spend potential (covertly glance in their wallet, notice how much they tip support staff, etc) because last thing you want is to spend 30+ minutes convincing him to spend and this trick only buys 1 dance......
    I love this. I can't understand a couple of women entering a strip club being offended when you ask if they have an entertainer that they're attracted to and if they would tip. You shouldnt be there if you uncomfortable with entertainers approaching you and that would want a tip from you sitting in there, staring at them and their bodies.
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