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    Quote Originally Posted by dpacrkk View Post
    You can't/shouldn't blame technological progress because people are short sighted and can't imagine their jobs, as it stands, are being replaced. People have to know that it's in business managers' best interest to increase throughput and efficiency. They should understand that their bosses are always going to look for ways to reduce costs, and a big part of that is staffing.

    Taking your example of not needing to go to the store: self service checkout in stores has existed for at least 15 years, yet "cashier" is still a job. And people had at least 15 years to adapt. It's not technology's fault that people (and really, it's mostly manual laborers) got complacent and didn't adapt.

    This also isn't a new phenomenon. Manufacturing sectors have decreased workforces while maintaining the same output. The steel industry has lost 75% of its workforce in ~40 years, while its shipments didn't decline.
    This is just my personal theory, but I think eventually there will hardly be any jobs left. They are trying hard to automate everything not just "grunt work". It might be a long time before they fully automate the more complex jobs, but at the rate we are going I 100% believe it will happen. There's only gonna be top experts and technology maintenance techies left.

    Lucky for me this won't happen in my lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    This is just my personal theory, but I think eventually there will hardly be any jobs left. They are trying hard to automate everything not just "grunt work". It might be a long time before they fully automate the more complex jobs, but at the rate we are going I 100% believe it will happen. There's only gonna be top experts and technology maintenance techies left.
    As some tasks are automated, new jobs are created that are made of different and/or newer tasks. Even your "technology maintenance techies" of today are far different than a generation ago. Engineers used to manually write and assemble code, and solder circuits. Now it's done digitally, and the hardware today is more capable and faster. In short, engineers adapted, and didn't think the world would allow for 30+ years at the same job with the exact same tasks.

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    Yeah some people haven't adapted but read the above by Selina M. These days you almost have to be a stripper/camgirl/hooker/drug dealer/ any kind of salesman if you weren't born in a middle or upper class family and didn't have a stable home life until you were an adult and got out. So "adapting" isn't that easy.


    edit: I refuse to depend on roommates so I can pay MY bills. People with similar early home/family life that care to live with roommates don't have to do above mentioned jobs.

    I feel like my whole life has been an uphill battle and I really do not like you calling some of us lazy or stupid for being born to shit circumstances and trying to do well or better.
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    I see PGD is in on this. I refuse to adapt to camming the way it is heading and I hate this part of the adult industry. Going back to stripping once I move away from here and losing weight/gaining muscle for it at a good pace. So I'm not doing nothing thank you.

    But I agree doing the same shit over n over in a declining job/industry won't get you anywhere. You gotta get out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpacrkk View Post
    You can't/shouldn't blame technological progress because people are short sighted and can't imagine their jobs, as it stands, are being replaced. People have to know that it's in business managers' best interest to increase throughput and efficiency. They should understand that their bosses are always going to look for ways to reduce costs, and a big part of that is staffing.

    Taking your example of not needing to go to the store: self service checkout in stores has existed for at least 15 years, yet "cashier" is still a job. And people had at least 15 years to adapt. It's not technology's fault that people (and really, it's mostly manual laborers) got complacent and didn't adapt.

    This also isn't a new phenomenon. Manufacturing sectors have decreased workforces while maintaining the same output. The steel industry has lost 75% of its workforce in ~40 years, while its shipments didn't decline.
    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    Yeah some people haven't adapted but read the above by Selina M. These days you almost have to be a stripper/camgirl/hooker/drug dealer/ any kind of salesman if you weren't born in a middle or upper class family and didn't have a stable home life until you were an adult and got out. So "adapting" isn't that easy.


    edit: I refuse to depend on roommates so I can pay MY bills. People with similar early home/family life that care to live with roommates don't have to do above mentioned jobs.

    I feel like my whole life has been an uphill battle and I really do not like you calling some of us lazy or stupid for being born to shit circumstances and trying to do well or better.
    Is this the part that's bothering you? Did I miss something? Because I'm not reading it the same way. I currently live in a state where many people are seriously waiting for factory jobs to make a comeback. And they can't seem to face the reality that it's not going to happen, so now they're scrambling. It's like they were living in a bubble and paid very little attention to the world changing around them. When I read his post this is what I thought he was referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    I see PGD is in on this. I refuse to adapt to camming the way it is heading and I hate this part of the adult industry. Going back to stripping once I move away from here and losing weight/gaining muscle for it at a good pace. So I'm not doing nothing thank you.

    But I agree doing the same shit over n over in a declining job/industry won't get you anywhere. You gotta get out.
    Hold up, what is your problem? Don't take your crap out on me. I just came to the conversation and haven't even posted. Am I being called out for agreeing with other members?

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    "You can't/shouldn't blame technological progress because people are short sighted and can't imagine their jobs, as it stands, are being replaced. " No it's this that's the problem.

    That's some fucked up shit calling us stupid and lazy. Not the labor jobs part. It's one thing someone been working a couple years now and still in a bs job, but it's getting harder and harder to move out/live on your own as a very young person whose family situation fucked their chances of doing college full ride pretty much and I was a fucking stellar student. Now it's like do I really want loans? And I make too much for grants/whatever bullshit. Too old to get a full ride ever again. You are too old for the best scholarships once you are out of high school and didn't go immediately.

    You almost have to cheat the system by having jobs everyone hates on and shits on but would go nuts if it ceased to exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    "You can't/shouldn't blame technological progress because people are short sighted and can't imagine their jobs, as it stands, are being replaced. " No it's this that's the problem.

    That's some fucked up shit calling us stupid and lazy. Not the labor jobs part. It's one thing someone been working a couple years now and still in a bs job, but it's getting harder and harder to move out/live on your own as a very young person whose family situation fucked their chances of doing college pretty much and I was a fucking stellar student.
    Okay so you don't agree with him. And some how are interpreting this to mean that you are stupid and lazy? And now you are calling me out for what? I'm not your problem. He is not your problem. YOU are your problem. I don't even think anyone was talking about camming exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    "You can't/shouldn't blame technological progress because people are short sighted and can't imagine their jobs, as it stands, are being replaced. " No it's this that's the problem.

    That's some fucked up shit calling us stupid and lazy. Not the labor jobs part. It's one thing someone been working a couple years now and still in a bs job, but it's getting harder and harder to move out/live on your own as a very young person whose family situation fucked their chances of doing college full ride pretty much and I was a fucking stellar student. Now it's like do I really want loans?
    I didn't call anybody "stupid" nor "lazy," /shrug

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    Okay so you don't agree with him. And some how are interpreting this to mean that you are stupid and lazy? And now you are calling me out for what? I'm not your problem. He is not your problem. YOU are your problem. I don't even think anyone was talking about camming exactly?
    Everytime I have heard people say shit like what he said they later out themselves to say they think poor people are stupid and lazy I have heard this time and again from privileged class people in real life.

    Do not tell me you never interacted with people like that in real life.

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    Mobile phones put how many different manufactures out of business? or hurt their bottom line? Our mobile phones have replaced calculators, type writers, land lines phones, maps & atlas, telephone directory books and so many other items.

    Manufacturing jobs got moved to other countries for cheaper labor, no child labor laws, no clean air & water laws, no minimum wage laws. Companies went global, they have no morals or care about the people who work for them. Only real way to bring them back & the GOP agrees with them is to get rid of the EPA, their taxes, minimum wage & such. Bring back how it was before they were laws put into place that companies refused to be fair & good in the first place.

    Sales people will always have jobs. Sales is a skill that not everyone has & can excel no matter what industry. Without sales a company doesn't have money coming in to pay everyone else.

    East Coast used to be textiles & shoe manufactures. Those industries moved out of it what 100 years ago or so. Nothing stays the same, individuals always need to be looking ahead & prepared for such stuff. My Dad told me never put all your eggs in one basket.

    There are many ways to make money with the internet, it has been one of the most job creating tools every invented. People all around the world now make money regardless of the job market in their area. You can live in the past but it isn't going to do you any damn good.

    Maddie, porn has changed. It will continue to change. Now, more than ever performers have ways to make money than just doing paid shoots. While you may resent it. It has been something I have been pushing & pulling for YEARS! If you want to be mad at anyone on this site, it would be ME! Cause I've been convincing girls to have their own sites, to cam, to do VOD stores for well over a decade now.

    One book changed my life "The World Is Flat" by Thomas Friedman. Read that at age 29 & pondered it for a year, then got into porn for those new & exciting opportunities the internet will bring.

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    I'm not even in the porn game? Anyway I wasn't talking about that although informative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    Everytime I have heard people say shit like what he said they later out themselves to say they think poor people are stupid and lazy I have heard this time and again from privileged class people in real life.

    Do not tell me you never interacted with people like that in real life.
    Don't tell me you are rude to people like this in real life?

    Real Privileged Class people in real life, don't give anyone else other than themselves a second thought. Now, plenty of blue collar workers who had Union Jobs at one time said those words.

    My Grandparents & Parents all had 2 or 3 jobs pretty much all their adult lives. Most had good & bad times through out the years, but most died pretty well off.

    The American dream of going to college, getting a good job & life being easy street is a lie. Has been for a long long time. Colleges don't tell you how much you will make with a degree. I know plenty of waiters with Bachelor of Art degrees. People take on college loans & debts for future jobs that may not be equal into pay to justify those loans. Colleges pay good money to enact laws that require you to pay that load back.

    Anyone can go online & learn coding. Anyone can go online & learn Abode Creative Cloud for fairly cheap. There are ways & sites now that realize going to college for those skills don't always guarantee those graduates are good at those much needed skills today. So their are competitions & such to find the best at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddiebabe View Post
    Everytime I have heard people say shit like what he said they later out themselves to say they think poor people are stupid and lazy I have heard this time and again from privileged class people in real life.

    Do not tell me you never interacted with people like that in real life.
    Well I agree with some of the things he's said. I hold those opinions but I don't think of people who are struggling as being lazy or stupid, just because a person holds an opinion that's different from yours that's not a reason to make them your enemy. I think you're reading too much into this. Also I haven't done anything to you or anyone. I spend a great deal of my time trying to help people in this industry. FOR FREE. You don't have to take my advice but please don't try to come for me because of it. I can understand why some of what's said around here may upset you but let's be mature about things and put it into perspective. Your struggle belongs to you and you alone. It's up to you to work it out. It's important to understand this now in 2017 than ever before. We work in an industry where it's possible to pull yourself out of poverty but you will need to avoid complacency in order to do so. You will need to work more than one job/hustle as well. Rather than get angry with people on message board focus on what really needs to happen and that is all on you. Yup I know people who make assumptions about me all the damn time. It gets frustrating at times but I'm not gonna lash out at people the moment I think they may possibly maybe trying to put me down. Relax. No one here is out to get you.

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    PS I'm a millenial and I don't feel that these studies apply to me. Therefore I am not offended by any of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    PS I'm a millenial and I don't feel that these studies apply to me. Therefore I am not offended by any of this.
    I'm not and I'm not offended either!

    This probably won't come off as I intend it but it is addressed to everyone in this thread:

    Read the thread; your grasp of financial terms, statistics, different communicative methodologies, and your ability to consider alternate viewpoints are *rare*. We here are NOT representative. I'm not blowing smoke or kissing ass - most of the people on this site have high intelligence (whether or not they choose to apply it is another matter).

    Most people do not have the ability to see a way out of things or, and I'm sad to say this, even understand that there are "paths" they can choose. The just push the peddle down in rain, snow, sun, and expect the same result. They cannot optimize, or strategize the way we can.

    That doesn't mean we're better than them, it just means we can't expect them to have the choices we have. I apologize if this sounds arrogant or elitist, but it is the fruit of long experience all over the world.

    You can't just put a better blueprint in front of someone and expect them to follow it. It takes time to sink into the zeitgeist and become a "plan for the man".
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    Quote Originally Posted by seashell View Post
    So much this. I'm a millennial with a master's degree, no kids, a cheap car, a cheap apartment... and if it weren't for sex work, I'd be broke. I made all the "right" decisions, except that I broke up with a rich guy instead of marrying him. Whoops?

    Hence why I'm leaving the country. Making those American dollars count, in a place where there's half the cost of living and cheap/free health care. This is why the digital nomad movement exists... we youngsters are doing our best to make the system work for us.
    Great plan - this is a good time because of social media, you can stay connected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    I'm not and I'm not offended either!

    This probably won't come off as I intend it but it is addressed to everyone in this thread:

    Read the thread; your grasp of financial terms, statistics, different communicative methodologies, and your ability to consider alternate viewpoints are *rare*. We here are NOT representative. I'm not blowing smoke or kissing ass - most of the people on this site have high intelligence (whether or not they choose to apply it is another matter).

    Most people do not have the ability to see a way out of things or, and I'm sad to say this, even understand that there are "paths" they can choose. The just push the peddle down in rain, snow, sun, and expect the same result. They cannot optimize, or strategize the way we can.

    That doesn't mean we're better than them, it just means we can't expect them to have the choices we have. I apologize if this sounds arrogant or elitist, but it is the fruit of long experience all over the world.

    You can't just put a better blueprint in front of someone and expect them to follow it. It takes time to sink into the zeitgeist and become a "plan for the man".
    I don't think you sound like an elitist at all. And you're right about not all people being able to intrinsically know how to put a plan together. I sometimes fail to realize that point and can get frustrated because in my mind opportunities grow on trees. You just have to recognize them when they show up. And that I suppose lies part of the problem. Not everyone sees the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I don't think you sound like an elitist at all. And you're right about not all people being able to intrinsically know how to put a plan together. I sometimes fail to realize that point and can get frustrated because in my mind opportunities grow on trees. You just have to recognize them when they show up. And that I suppose lies part of the problem. Not everyone sees the same thing.
    That is exactly what I'm trying to say, only more succinct and concise.
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    [QUOTE= married couples have two incomes ; it is easier to raise children with a partner etc.[/QUOTE]

    You do not need to be married to have 2 incomes. However in the US you will pay less federal income tax if you decide to let the government dictate your familial status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    You do not need to be married to have 2 incomes. However in the US you will pay less federal income tax if you decide to let the government dictate your familial status.
    This is only true until AGI reaches the higher levels of the 25% bracket. For 2017, the break point is both married people having a non-zero taxable income, and their combined taxable income having a mean of 76551. At that point and forward, there are combinations where one neither individual is in a bracket higher than 25% (e.g. [61202,91900]). But in every case with those same constraints, filing as married would cause them to be in the 28% bracket.

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