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    Also, as Sam said, you way over think this


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    Soooo men fret over what the opposite sex says & does too.

    In my teens & early twenties we did this, how old you are dude?

    Even if she does have a pimp, you don't think you can take him? Who'd win in a fight? Some men enjoy fighting over a woman to be gallant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillingToSpend View Post
    I figured there was a "window" to express some type of interest in her. I didn't commit too much and simply asked when she was working ITC this next week. I will likely go see her which will keep the door open to pursue anything more involved down the road. She did reply to my text.

    In terms of fighting a pimp, that is something I'd really like to avoid and would easily be pummled. Let's just say I am part of a "vulnerable" segment of the population and I need to avoid any type of potentially dangerous situations, hence why I am trying to be extremely cautious with this.
    "vulnerable" segment of the population? Most violent crimes are committed against women. And I was making a joke, but dude, you just come off as weak. Weak is rarely sexy to a woman.

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    I think maybe part of this's you're using the pimp thing as an excuse.


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    Maybe he is crippled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Maybe he is crippled.
    This is a good point.

    Willing, maybe you could elaborate on what makes you so vulnerable that you are this paranoid. Most guys around here who think a girl is hot and has a great time in the LD area would have countered with 'how much do you want/need?" once she mentioned OTC. Then they would have worried about some simple precautions after the deal was struck, such as controlling the meetup location. The fact that you are feeling this conflicted and exposed leads one to believe that you have some special circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Maybe he is crippled.
    Um, the term is handicapped.


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    Weak or a disabled person, doesn't matter. Strippers get all kinds of attention in public & hit on. Any man bigger or stronger than him is intimidating.

    I've worked in lots of strip clubs in all parts of this country, so have many of my girlfriends. Pimps are not the norm. Scared little men who can't handle us were plenty.

    Coming up with so many this all will end up badly scenarios is paranoid & unnecessary. Just like if I go camping, an ax murder is waiting for me in the woods.

    Dude, it's okay. You are too scared. Just move along to someone you consider safe, like a librarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Um, the term is handicapped.
    This is the problem with pc. Whirlerz, I believe "handicapped" is one of the main terms people with disabilities don't want to be labeled as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    "vulnerable" segment of the population? Most violent crimes are committed against women.
    This is definitely false. Men are more likely to be victims of all forms of violent crime except for sexual assault and domestic violence, in particular they are about twice as likely to be homicide victims. The statement that men are "vulnerable" to violence is pretty reasonable. It's also interesting that you're making the assumption that he shouldn't be worried about getting into a fight with a pimp.

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    If you go to this site

    https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=923

    go to the first PDF under "Publications and Products", and check out Table 9, that gives you a bit of relevant data about correlation between gender and victimization by violent crime.

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    I have no experience with OTC at all. But if you simply make an arrangement to meet her for coffee in a public place, and let a friend know where you are going, it's hard for me to see how there can be any significant risk involved in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillingToSpend View Post
    I created this thread thinking that this would be a safe space to address a concern of mine and did not anticipate being insulted, or called weak. I did not insinuate anything regarding strippers/sex workers, but simply wanted to identify potential risky environmental factors. My posts are coming from a good place, and out of inexperience in this type of situation.

    As some have correctly guessed in this thread, I am a person with a disability (wheelchair user), hence the considerable hesitation to pursuing this even though I want to. Persons with disabilities are sexual beings much like their abled-bodied counterparts. The pursuit of sexual fulfillment is something that we should be allowed just as much as the next person, however given our particularly vulnerable state (in almost all encounters), we are not afforded the luxury of pursuing this with such a laissez-faire approach. This need of planning before action, is something that we do not only for potentially risk scenarios, but extends to almost all daily activities due to structural, and institutional barriers. Hence why I've come here, to inquire from those who have experience in the industry, or may have received this service before.
    You have been a member of this site since 2011....... have you ever read tales about pimps beating up stripper's customers? In 7 years of being a member of this site you have rarely ever posted. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    No one EVER said people with disabilities aren't sexual beings............ A person with such a disability would be asking if she minded having sex with someone who is in a wheel chair and such.

    Going to strip clubs to find a sex partner, even though most men do it. Unless you are paying for it, ain't going to happen. So Did you go in there looking for someone to have sex with?

    Those of us who have experience in the industry repeatedly told you that the pimp beating you up more than likely wasn't going to happen. Yet, you refused to believe us. Now, to say we are picking on you is just BS!

    It is NOT coming from a good place when you write the worst case scenarios about her character. Then when told not to worry about it, wasn't enough of an answer for you. Despite everyone here telling you getting beaten up by a pimp wasn't likely. You kept insisting it was........... No ones answer here was good enough for you to believe us.

    Now you want to say we are all being mean to you. Think your whole story is bs.

    If she was hooking out of there & since she has your number. She'd already been hitting you up for a paid session. If she had a pimp, he would have been pushing her to close the deal so they could rob & beat you up.

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    Personally, I believe that you should not go off with this girl. You seem scared of her after she gave you her number. You already think about the worst case scenario without any merit. Did you talk about your concerns with her? Nope, you wanted to jump to conclusions about everything off the bat. So, I believe that you should just look for someone that you feel more safe with it. I mean you are just overthinking this scenario way too much and talking about pimps is just overkill. Maybe you should go somewhere else for sex if you have do to a risk assessment about this situation?


    Quote Originally Posted by WillingToSpend View Post
    I created this thread thinking that this would be a safe space to address a concern of mine and did not anticipate being insulted, or called weak. I did not insinuate anything regarding strippers/sex workers, but simply wanted to identify potential risky environmental factors. My posts are coming from a good place, and out of inexperience in this type of situation.

    As some have correctly guessed in this thread, I am a person with a disability (wheelchair user), hence the considerable hesitation to pursuing this even though I want to. Persons with disabilities are sexual beings much like their abled-bodied counterparts. The pursuit of sexual fulfillment is something that we should be allowed just as much as the next person, however given our particularly vulnerable state (in almost all encounters), we are not afforded the luxury of pursuing this with such a laissez-faire approach. This need of planning before action, is something that we do not only for potentially risk scenarios, but extends to almost all daily activities due to structural, and institutional barriers. Hence why I've come here, to inquire from those who have experience in the industry, or may have received this service before.
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    Now that you mentioned wheelchair user I can definitely see where you are coming from and understand your hesitation. Safety is a legitimate concern here. I have a customer who is also a wheelchair user(quadriplegic) and he has the same worry about going anywhere in public. He doesn't like to go out in public alone because of the fear that someone might harm him. I guess that it had happened to him in the past that somebody jumped him so it was understandable that he'd be scared of that happening again. Your concern is about if she has a pimp. I think that if she had a pimp he would be pressuring her big time to set a meeting up asap so that she can make money for him. Pimps are not patient people so I think that if she did have one, she would've moved on to someone else. There's nothing illlegal with meeting up with her for dinner, if that's what you wanted to do. It's paying for sex acts that is illegal and you're not saying anything about that so you're fine. If you're that worried you don't have to meet with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Um, the term is handicapped.
    Actually it's now differently-abled.
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    In all my years of stripping, only met one girl who had a pimp. She tried to recruit some of the other girls for him. We ran them both out of the club pretty quick.

    If a pimp beat up men from the strip club, it is easily traced back to the place. Pimps don't take that risk. Pimps rarely get involved with the clients to begin with, they prefer to beat on their girls.

    Pimps who do beat up clients in general, get caught pretty quickly.

    This guy felt safe enough in the club, he can always go back for another dance to feel the situation out further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillingToSpend View Post
    I created this thread thinking that this would be a safe space to address a concern of mine and did not anticipate being insulted, or called weak. I did not insinuate anything regarding strippers/sex workers, but simply wanted to identify potential risky environmental factors. My posts are coming from a good place, and out of inexperience in this type of situation.

    As some have correctly guessed in this thread, I am a person with a disability (wheelchair user), hence the considerable hesitation to pursuing this even though I want to. Persons with disabilities are sexual beings much like their abled-bodied counterparts. The pursuit of sexual fulfillment is something that we should be allowed just as much as the next person, however given our particularly vulnerable state (in almost all encounters), we are not afforded the luxury of pursuing this with such a laissez-faire approach. This need of planning before action, is something that we do not only for potentially risk scenarios, but extends to almost all daily activities due to structural, and institutional barriers. Hence why I've come here, to inquire from those who have experience in the industry, or may have received this service before.
    You came onto a stripper support site to talk about taking a stripper out of the club for sex. I'm not sure why you expected to find a "safe space" to talk about that in a place like this. You've been lurking on here for 6 years, so you should probably know better by now. As far as being labelled "weak", the reality is that you are indeed vulnerable, which you readily admit. Let's not get caught up in the weeds by splitting hairs on terminology. Whether disabled or not, hyper-sensitivity will hurt you far more than help you when dealing with strippers in their natural habitats.

    But with all of that said, given your situation, I would think carefully before taking a strange woman out of a strip club for sex. As you rightly surmised, situations can go all sorts of ways when dealing with strippers OTC. I've taken a lot of girls OTC over the years and, while the vast majority of the experiences went just fine, a small % of them did go sideways. I also suspect that a certain % of the good experiences might have gone differently if the girls involved thought that they could get away with running a game on me. IMHO you might be better off calling up an established escort agency and giving them a heads up about your circumstances.

    In any event, good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    What are you risking?
    Risk assessment if for stock portfolios, not a dinner date with a hot chick. What is the worse thing to happen? you call up & it's the wrong number? She doesn't want to go to dinner? you end up married & 5 kids.......... it's just dinner not a family picnic where you ask to marry her in front of everyone.
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    So what happened with all this?

    Did you talk to her or did you just drop it?

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    So is it common for "strippers" to have pimps or not? Conflicting experiences I guess since Sam only knew of one girl in her whole career that had one. Either way op, with your situation I think you were justified to ask. As far as the responses, lol welcome to customer conversation.

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    ^^My guess it is uncommon but does happen. Hilariously now they're sometimes referred to as "business partners" or "managers". There are, of course, real managers. Any sex worker who has a real pimp, i.e. someone with whom she has a negative exploitative relationship with no positive synergy, will not have high income and will eventually be gravely harmed by the relationship. Real pimps, as in the bad kind, not suitcase pimps, drivers, or agencies, often separate their associates from any support groups so as to lower their personal perceived value.

    What can you do about it? Nothing really, IMHO. The person has to be strong enough on their own to do what they need with their life.
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