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    Let's say you want to be UTR, but still want to have a website to establish an upscale image if you're against reviews. By the time you get to the point where you're creating a website, it's necessary to think of branding, even if you don't want have a huge presence online.

    If you choose a name OTHER than your real name, what happens if you're a companion to someone in your social circle and you run into someone you know at an event? Or say you make a good connection with someone at an event dinner who then wants to connect with you on LinkedIn or offer you a non-SW job opportunity?

    It seems to me like going by your real first name, or at least your middle name, is a good bet so it can easily be explained away. But of course, there are risks to that. What do you ladies think?

    (By the way - hi, I'm new! I'm currently on page 65 of reading past threads on this forum while educating myself. Thank you to all of you who've provided awesome insight through the years)

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    The men who run into you at a social gathering are scared you will say their name, come up & talk to them. Then have to answer questions of how they know you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    The men who run into you at a social gathering are scared you will say their name, come up & talk to them. Then have to answer questions of how they know you.
    I mean if you're out with your date as a companion and while on the date you make connections with other people who want to stay in touch. I've found that happens with me, and until now I've been using my real first name - but I don't know how I'd handle that if I wasn't. I also don't create a whole separate back story for my life - I try to keep things as organic as possible, and just watch what details I reveal. Once clients know my professional background, they often want to (and actually have) hired me for projects for their companies (and not as a front either, but as actual vanilla work).

    I also haven't been doing this for that long though, so I'm concerned as I continue to do this that may somehow bite me in the ass. I'm not sure if I'm being completely foolish for letting both worlds come this close, or if it can be acceptable in the right circumstances.

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    Men in the world will make sure it bites you in the ass.
    The demand for it by men is high, they will also punish you for it.

    Never make the mistake of thinking a client has your best interest at heart & you can trust him with your real information. In a few years for laughs he will post in on the web.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Men in the world will make sure it bites you in the ass.
    The demand for it by men is high, they will also punish you for it.

    Never make the mistake of thinking a client has your best interest at heart & you can trust him with your real information. In a few years for laughs he will post in on the web.

    So for ladies who use a fake name then, do you use it the entire time you know a client and never give out your real first name at all?

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    Are you really going to bump into Susie down the road at an event you'd be paid to attend? Do you really think your personal friends are mingling at these types of festivities? If so, why the fuck are you going down this road with websites and what not? Just go hang out at your stomping ground. LOL.

    I wouldn't give my real name. If a job opportunity comes in the vanilla world and it is serious and worth your while, then explain your name. 'Til then...I wouldn't do it. And Linkedin? Are you trying to be an escort or a secretary? I'd figure out what life you want first and think long and hard about stepping into this one unprepared or with any illusions that these guys are going to be knights in shining armor (not that it can't happen, but it sounds like you're prepping for some ideal circumstance where business owner A hires the damsel escort in distress with a six figure paycheck and they get along happily ever after).

    People are not nice. It's highly unlikely that the men you encounter are going to want you anywhere near their business once you start the relationship in an adult way. Also, you're being paid to escort the man to his event, you're not his wife, you aren't really going to be chatting it up with his best work friends until you have such a deep tie with this guy that he can trust you won't spill the beans and start soliciting his work mates which will make him look very poorly.

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    So for ladies who use a fake name then, do you use it the entire time you know a client and never give out your real first name at all?
    Exactly. Why does he need to know the name on your birth certificate? Does he need your social security # too? It is not relevant information to the job nor does it effect your job whatsoever.

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    I didn't work this hard creating my brand for everyone NOT to know my name.

    I am being felt out for vanilla jobs because of what I've done & how funny I am while doing my job.

    Lisa Ann works for ABC aka Disney.
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    Why would I?
    My nick Name has been Samantha since I was a freshmen in college. I have friends for decades who call me Sam.
    My family refuses too, but we joke about it.

    My sister waits till lots of good Christian ladies are around her at church social then loudly tells them all her sister is a Porn star.

    Cary Grant real name isn't Cary Grant
    Lots of movie stars real name are not their stage names.

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    ^^^Exactly. You can still be discovered and continue to use your pen name. You don't have to put your real name out there. Frankly, if a guy doesn't like it tell him you'd like to know the full name of his wife, boss, mother, sister, etc. It is for your own privacy and if he doesn't like it, oh well. It works for literally every other field of work where privacy is a concern. https://thoughtcatalog.com/nico-lang...-surprise-you/ He can know your name when he puts a ring on it or needs to write you your first check at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPopcorn View Post
    Are you really going to bump into Susie down the road at an event you'd be paid to attend? Do you really think your personal friends are mingling at these types of festivities? If so, why the fuck are you going down this road with websites and what not? Just go hang out at your stomping ground. LOL.

    Without going into my background too much, I'm not in the same social class as these men (where they hang out is not my typical stomping ground) but we still share similar acquaintances thanks to my professional/academic background. If I mention where I go to school at all, in combination with the informed conversation I tend to have that's where legit job opportunities come up - being out with financially successful men puts me in a position to speak with other successful people and make connections I wouldn't normally have.

    In other words, it's a huge networking opportunity, but not one without risks.

    And honestly, I'm tempted to skip a website and stay totally under the radar, but I think it would be helpful in attracting more upscale clientele since I don't have reviews.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    I didn't work this hard creating my brand for everyone NOT to know my name.
    That is an AWESOME outlook! Maybe one day I'll feel that way... right now I'm still living a double life.

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    He can know your name when he puts a ring on it or needs to write you your first check at work.
    Totally fair point, and I think that probably answers the question for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSong View Post
    Without going into my background too much, I'm not in the same social class as these men (where they hang out is not my typical stomping ground) but we still share similar acquaintances thanks to my professional/academic background. If I mention where I go to school at all, in combination with the informed conversation I tend to have that's where legit job opportunities come up - being out with financially successful men puts me in a position to speak with other successful people and make connections I wouldn't normally have.

    In other words, it's a huge networking opportunity, but not one without risks.

    And honestly, I'm tempted to skip a website and stay totally under the radar, but I think it would be helpful in attracting more upscale clientele since I don't have reviews.





    That is an AWESOME outlook! Maybe one day I'll feel that way... right now I'm still living a double life.
    If you truly feel that this path is going to lead to a stable vanilla job, and if that is what you want, then go for it and work with the intention of getting into a social circle that will get you a job. Don't get your hopes up, once you have been hired as the escort you're going to remain the escort and your customer probably is going to be afraid of being found out himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSong View Post
    Without going into my background too much, I'm not in the same social class as these men (where they hang out is not my typical stomping ground) but we still share similar acquaintances thanks to my professional/academic background. If I mention where I go to school at all, in combination with the informed conversation I tend to have that's where legit job opportunities come up - being out with financially successful men puts me in a position to speak with other successful people and make connections I wouldn't normally have.

    In other words, it's a huge networking opportunity, but not one without risks.

    And honestly, I'm tempted to skip a website and stay totally under the radar, but I think it would be helpful in attracting more upscale clientele since I don't have reviews.





    That is an AWESOME outlook! Maybe one day I'll feel that way... right now I'm still living a double life.



    Totally fair point, and I think that probably answers the question for me!
    Is this a remake of "Working Girl" Where she steal an invite from her boss & goes to a business mixer. Then gets drunk by doing shot with Harrison Ford.

    Don't know what country you are from, but in the U.S. we are all equals & in the same social class. Rarely are clients going to take you to business events, this isn't "Pretty Woman" and a day watching Polo matches.

    Nor do men offer jobs of any kind to another man's date aka arm candy. Unless it is a blow job kind of job.

    Now, without escorting you can go out and have a drink or dinner at expensive places, but even then men aren't there to find an employee. What gets you great jobs is going to school, getting great grades, interning at the right places.

    "She climbed up the latter of success, wrong by wrong." Mae West
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    You said you want to be UTR but you are considering using your real name? That's a contradiction.

    I think you have to have faith that you can network and find opportunities without the clients connections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Don't know what country you are from, but in the U.S. we are all equals & in the same social class. Rarely are clients going to take you to business events, this isn't "Pretty Woman" and a day watching Polo matches.
    I'm from the US and disagree that we are all equals in the same social class. Racism and poverty (which are very real issues that are alive and well) aside, the erosion of the middle class is a very real thing. Growing up, I was upper middle class. I've fallen to lower middle class at this point, but have still managed to do well because I got myself into a top university. That doesn't mean that I'm in the same social class as my peers - while they vacation in the most expensive places in the world, I am home worrying how I'll dig myself out of this endless student debt. I do not have the connections they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    What gets you great jobs is going to school, getting great grades, interning at the right places.
    Yes, you can get great jobs by going to a great school and getting great grades - I've done all that. All of those jobs suck compared to sex work IMO. I'm a firm believer that any corporate job that pays over 70 grand a year pays you that much not for how hard the work is, but for how much stress they are paying you to take on. It's not worth it. But I have always been more of an edge walker, so finally deciding to dip my toes into the world of escorting is the best decision I've made for myself. The freedom is liberating and, at times, downright intoxicating. You have the luxury of making money and having the time to enjoy it, as long as you're willing to take on a bit of risk.

    Perhaps I'm an outlier, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who experiences this. My top clients actually see me for the conversation more than anything, and after seeing me in private, can't wait to take me out with people they know. Maybe that's not usually the case - it definitely surprised me, especially since as a BBW I'm not your stereotypical arm candy. It's because I can hold my own in the company of their friends, and I think it'd be silly not to take advantage of that for all it's worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    You said you want to be UTR but you are considering using your real name? That's a contradiction.

    I think you have to have faith that you can network and find opportunities without the clients connections.
    I don't use my full name, just my first name. I consider it staying UTR by hiding in plain sight.

    It's definitely possible to network without client connections, I'm just not sure why I'd pass on the opportunity to use those connections if they're right in front of me.

    That said, from my last post and doing some reflection on this, I'm actually not sure that I want the more vanilla opportunities that come my way since I completely favor escorting over it at the moment, which may make it a moot point. It's tempting to take advantage of every opportunity that comes my way and let the money snowball, but it may be more prudent to just keep both separate so that I don't potentially endanger one with the other.

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    I think that you should keep your escorting and your vanilla work lives separately. While networking is possible with clients, I think that many don't have your best interests in mind. You're the fantasy girlfriend to them and rarely anything more. They don't seem to care unless it involves sex or sexual favors. I wish there were men in real life like Richard Gere's character from Pretty Woman, but there's not. I totally get what you're trying to do though on the networking, especially if they are men who are working in your desired field of vanilla work.

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    I sometimes tell clients my real name, but only bc I've already been outed by my ex to my family, and they are the only people that I was really worried about finding out. But I would definitely have to agree that, no, these guys definitely do not have our best interests at heart. They will say and do whatever it takes to get you into bed, but once they get what they want, they rarely keep their word. I've been doing this for 5 years now, and one thing that I have learned is that you can't count on them for shit once the date is over. I think about 99% of these guys look down on escorts, though they may try to give you the impression that they respect you and what you do. I try to never take what any of them say too seriously or get my hopes up. And I don't care what they think bc they are parting with their hard earned money to get to be with me, and I wouldn't want to be in their shoes. Who's actually the one being degraded? Hehehe....

    Oh, and I don't think that I've ever had any clients want to include me in on their personal life. I mean, I can hold a conversation, and I'm very intelligent and a college grad, but these guys don't want to bring me around their friends and show me off. Not unless they are calling me for a date and happen to have a friend with them, and even that is rare. These guys are terrified that people will find out that they are dealing with escorts. Run into them in public, and they look like they have seen a ghost, hahaha. Or sometimes a guy will spot me in public and later text me to say I look nice today or something, but will never actually say hey to you in public. It's that serious!

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    Thank you ladies! I totally appreciate your insight. I've decided to go with a fake name and after much deliberation, picked one I love that I feel expresses myself. I feel much more relieved with the extra layer of protection and it's not often we get to reinvent ourselves, so I'm enjoying that aspect of it as well.

    I particularly appreciate the insight that these guys don't have our best interest at heart - I tend to be a positive person and always assume the best, but since I'm newish I haven't been around long enough to seriously get burned yet, hearing enough people warn me of the same thing is enough to set me straight. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSong View Post
    Thank you ladies! I totally appreciate your insight. I've decided to go with a fake name and after much deliberation, picked one I love that I feel expresses myself. I feel much more relieved with the extra layer of protection and it's not often we get to reinvent ourselves, so I'm enjoying that aspect of it as well.

    I particularly appreciate the insight that these guys don't have our best interest at heart - I tend to be a positive person and always assume the best, but since I'm newish I haven't been around long enough to seriously get burned yet, hearing enough people warn me of the same thing is enough to set me straight. Thanks
    Good, wish it was different but it isn't.
    They turn on you the minute they don't get what they want or think you are getting to be successful at something else & no longer available to them. They are very selfish & if you look at the corporations & tech companies. They all resent women in every field & don't treat us as equals.

    Anyone who insist on knowing your real name is going to make it public on the web eventually. They don't need it. It's a power play.

    Establish your boundaries & stick to them. Don't allow them to see you in all hours of the night. Text or call you all hours of the day or night. They are all going to push your boundaries, it is a game to them. NEVER allow them to film or take pics.

    Once they get you to lower your price, that is what they will always pay you

    Trust your instincts, turn anyone down who pushes you to do something you don't want to in an email, text or phone call.

    You being new, the predators will target you hard.

    Anyone claiming to be a cop in an email or text saying you have to do what they want. Ask for their badge number, it is a Federal Felony to impersonate a person of the court. They have to by law provide you with a badge number, just like a lawyer has to provide you with their Bar number if the claim to be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Good, wish it was different but it isn't.
    They turn on you the minute they don't get what they want or think you are getting to be successful at something else & no longer available to them. They are very selfish & if you look at the corporations & tech companies. They all resent women in every field & don't treat us as equals.
    Yep, been there! Good luck being a woman in management in a tech company - you can say the same thing a man would the way they'd say it, and all of a sudden you're not a team player, you're aggressive or you just "don't get it". It gets tiring having to sugar coat everything and act submissive in order to get ahead (which, let's be honest - how well does THAT work?).

    And yeah, my first sense of seeing guys be greedier than I expected with this is when I tell them I'm not available. All of a sudden they get possessive which is worrying - they want to know if I'm seeing anyone else instead of them, or I've had them message me again when they see I've posted another ad instead of responding to them asking if I've posted again. It's like WTF... I wasn't aware that you own me. It's creepy and their insecurity makes me nervous.

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    FYI I am a BBW. in fact, I'm OG BBW.

    You explaining things from a BBW perspective was cute.

    Google me! Samantha 38G

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    I've checked you out before Sam! I was actually really excited when you first responded to my thread hehe, I've been reading back through years worth of posts and always liked your insight.

    I was thinking of starting another thread on BBW escorting rates in my area. Mind if I PM you for some insight?

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    You can pm me,

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    Ty! Sent

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    Weirdest thing with the group of people you mention


    I agree w the above points.

    My experience has been they pay escorts, dancers and entertainers well for companionship but don't provide introductions or take your business goals seriously.

    Forget meeting their friends or family.

    Dating them on the other hand means meeting friends, family, going to events w them and being shown off but they are stingy as all hell.

    I'm not in the game anymore but that's been my experience

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