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    Mind Blowing Freestyle Escorting

    Im considering returning to escorting in addition to camming. I put out feeler ads and the response was underwhelming. When I first started I could put out an ad with shitty pics and my phone was ringing of the hook.
    I have to change my game plan. I have to adapt.

    This got me thinking about freestyling. By that I mean socializing with men with the intent to seduce them into booking with me. I'm trying to brainstorm pros cons and how I'd go about this. My head is about to explode thinking this over

    I'm thinking I'd start by targeting certain events, social clubs, even night clubs perhaps. Essentially places where social interaction is to be expected. Then, as I'm out pay attention to non verbal displays of interest such as a smile, eye contact, staring at my ass lol. Also initiate sometimes and see who reciprocates. Then approach these men strike up conversation stroke their eggo. Where I get stuck is how to ask for the sale/close in this situation in a way that's seamless and palatable to the men. I of course need to be clever about word choice and conduct overall to minimize legal trouble too.


    I also get to thinking- Stormie, what the hell are you saying? Is this all nonsense? Is freestyling obsolete if you want to make a living at it? Even if it did work, would it be more trouble than its worth trying to get the clients. Should I just stick to the web for leads? I know no one can say for sure what my results would be, but what is your opinion? What questions/concerns does this method raise for you? Have any of you done it? How did it work out?

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    Me and a friend tried it once bc she said she did it all the time. So we met these guys at a bar and went home with them....and they ended up getting upset bc they realized that we were there to make money. Maybe we didnt approach it right or something? I am sticking to the web....and I've heard that some girls go to hotel bars to freestyle...but I'm too chicken for that bc I would be afraid of getting caught and kicked out. A guy that works at the restaurant attached to a real upscale hotel here in Atlanta told me that the hotel recognizes the working girls after a while and bans them.

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    Thank you! See that's the last thing I want. I guess it would be hard to be discreet.
    I worry about the reaction too. I have no idea how to sell it in a way that's effective but easy to digest.

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    I freestyle at my club and have been successful. When they ask you to go home with them, just say yes enthusiastically and without skipping a beat, ask how many hours they want to spend together and ask if they want to see your website (w ur prices).

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    Default Re: Freestyle Escorting

    Are they generally open to screening in the sc?

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    It depends on the area you're in. I never go home with customers...I end up having them text me their screening info and book a session w them for the following day etc.

    It's good to have multiple screening options too. I accept references, P411 or TER whitelist info or employment info.

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    Default Re: Freestyle Escorting

    ^Thanks! I may try this. I know some little hole in the wall spots that are notoriously extra heavy.

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    Good luck! I think freestyling in an extras heavy club might put you at a disadvantage. Guys are more likely to just get extras from another dancer there instead of booking an hourly session with you later that week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KALIN View Post
    I freestyle at my club and have been successful. When they ask you to go home with them, just say yes enthusiastically and without skipping a beat, ask how many hours they want to spend together and ask if they want to see your website (w ur prices).
    I agree. I do the same. This way most are kinda surprised (whether it's a good or bad surprised) but it gets straight to the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randi Starr View Post
    I agree. I do the same. This way most are kinda surprised (whether it's a good or bad surprised) but it gets straight to the point.
    Yep! No one's time is wasted

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    I've nabbed massage / body rub customers by sitting at hotel bars. I wouldn't go out to specifically do that but if I was in the area for another customer , I'd usually do my session and then go next door ( this is in a very very busy tourist market ) and have a soda /drink / or snack while I waited for the next customer to text. On busy days ( conventions / or that kind of magic hour time 6-10p.m. ), I'd sometimes find the next customer " live " before a text one would come in. Obviously, this takes some tolerance to risk. Same screening rules apply. If a person gives you a bad vibe, simply pass obviously. This is in a market where law enforcement sort of looked the other way ( lets adults be adults so long as they are not hurting anyone ).

    Get to know laws / customs of your location before attempting.

    Watch our for Marriotts . Don't do this at that chain. They are not adult worker friendly in the least.
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    Default Re: Freestyle Escorting

    Thank you everybody. I think I'll go the strip club route actually and freestyle when the opportunity presents itself. I thought of using social media too. Like...using all the thirstiness to my advantage lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormieKnight View Post
    Thank you everybody. I think I'll go the strip club route actually and freestyle when the opportunity presents itself. I thought of using social media too. Like...using all the thirstiness to my advantage lol.
    Just to clarify, when I freestyle at my club, I'm working there as a no-extras dancer. I'm primarily an escort but I strip and cam on the side. Please please do not go into a club as a customer and try to steal the club's customers.
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    I understood you babes. That's not what I meant. I would NEVER. I feel like that is just bad adult worker karma lol. I have gone as a customer for fun and/or research and I ALWAYS get propositions but I have never accepted. I meant, the plan is to get hired at a club and get leads from there primarily but if I'm out and about and I see the opportunity to freestyle in say nightclubs or bars, I will.
    I have no intention of doing anything in the club ever either. I'm so much more comfy at my incall which is actually close to my 1st choice club. So I think you may be right to steer clear of extras heavy spots although I think I could manage if it comes down to it. Idk this is going to be a trial and error thing for sure.

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    Default learning how to FREESTYLE as safely as possible & or how its done in light of things

    Soooo, I remember I while back that there used to be a sticky thread on freestyling some time ago. However, when using the search function I an no longer seem to find this particular thread -only the ones that were never that useful or had real advice just criticism on it & not real answers. I'm sure I an not be the only girl on here that now thinks that this will be a good backup to keep save in her back pocket? I mean many of us have regulars -but still, that can not always be reliable. So I would love to locate that old educational thread or hopefully, some of the ladies that have experience with that on here can lend a guiding hand. I personally would prefer not to take this route as the idea scares the crap out of me & is intimidating as hell -however, it's become blaringly obvious that these are becoming times that I guess we need to be prepared & use or heads even when taking gambles rather than diving in blindly..
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    Freestyling is how a friend and I got started. I had no regard for safety back then. I was trying to be edgy and out do other peers. I think it's too risky.

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    That's what petrifies me -I didn't know if there was a way that the girls safely do it now or if that's an anxious thought w/ everything thats going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandi_Lynn View Post
    That's what petrifies me -I didn't know if there was a way that the girls safely do it now or if that's an anxious thought w/ everything thats going on
    Freestyling is risky by it's very nature...isn't it? I'm not sure there is a safe way. Can you screen on the fly?

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    Default Re: learning how to FREESTYLE as safely as possible & or how its done in light of thi

    Freestyling is very risky, especially where I've seen some ladies doing it at. A lot of hotels, particularly Marriott's, Hilton, and such are being trained to identify sw now and so if you're going to hang around upscale hotel bars and lounges, don't be surprised if you get kicked out. I've seen the same happen at hotels attached to casino's in my area.

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    Default Re: learning how to FREESTYLE as safely as possible & or how its done in light of thi

    From brief observation ..... yes - if you are looking to move fast and minimize your upfront cost - it is more risky that way. All it takes is one snitching ass hating ass dude (or nosey woman) to fuck up your whole operation.

    Plus most places now have security, surveillance cameras, n such so you gots to be real careful.

    The conclusion = its easier to pull off if you a) have a bit of money to put up first on your appearance, paying to enter the venue, etc b) have a bit of time to ensure the dude is reasonably trustworthy to be with one on one and c) can take time to verify he has means to spend more time with you

    I personally do not think it's wise to go private with a guy on the initial meeting but there are some ladies who have more tolerance for risk.

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    I can confirm bars and related businesses have seminars/training to spot "suspicious activity." (In some states it's not really directed at working girls exactly but it's more about preventing all liability causing events. More about that later.)

    I myself have been treated rudely a couple times while freestyling or attempting to at bars. Being a lone female at the bar pretty much puts a spot light on you. I'd recommend working with a female friend & or a gay male friend. (In some cities you can easily find a male hustle buddy via gay bars.)

    As for the bar and restaurant business....the last restaurant I worked would call the cops for pretty much any issue. While I was there I saw them call the cops to extricate a female customer from the women's restroom (she was drunk and high on pills, and refused to exit a bathroom stall, we all tried talking her out)....& Then a rowdy drunk dude on the bar side was dragged out by 3 cops.

    My advice is to find small "corner" bars where it's less likely that the owners WANT to call the cops over problems. Tread at your own risk but it's smarter than dealing with corporate businesses.

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    I need free styling advice too!! Does anyone have any "sale closing" tips at all??? there have been lots of other tips but not that specifically. I dunno if I could ever hustle customers from dance work I feel like majority of the men that come into strip clubs are cheap for that kind of thing, so it's not really my target audience. Also my club sends fake customers to try and get drugs etc from us so id be too afraid of getting caught and fired.

    Anyhow other advice?? The only thing I can think of is handing out a business card with just my name and then at the bottom put booking: website ; and just have my prices on the website... I dunno, that seems to most efficient yet discrete

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC.Bianca View Post
    I need free styling advice too!! Does anyone have any "sale closing" tips at all??? there have been lots of other tips but not that specifically. I dunno if I could ever hustle customers from dance work I feel like majority of the men that come into strip clubs are cheap for that kind of thing, so it's not really my target audience. Also my club sends fake customers to try and get drugs etc from us so id be too afraid of getting caught and fired.

    Anyhow other advice?? The only thing I can think of is handing out a business card with just my name and then at the bottom put booking: website ; and just have my prices on the website... I dunno, that seems to most efficient yet discrete
    Here are the old school things I remember (when I started a lot of my mentors were working in the 1980s)

    * Walking the track is best done with a few girls you are friendly with. Let someone know when you expect to be back.

    * Don't go anywhere private with guys who seem- nervous, jumpy/high or "off."

    * If you feel the need to further vet a customer, grab a drink with him. Talk to him for about 15-20 minutes & assess what it's like to deal with him.

    * If you can set up private shows, retain a driver you're comfortable with. (If you don't have your own transportation.)

    * Do not keep narcotics or paraphanelia on your person. "Possession is 9/10ths of the law."

    * Build up a regulars list. Treat them well.

    * Now that encryption is easy to do on most electronic devices, do it to protect your privacy and everyone else's.

    * Learn what the laws are in your region/state and be prepared for dealing with the court system.

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    Default Re: Freestyle Escorting

    Does anyone have the code to free styling on these dating sites or non escorting sites without getting banned or seem like you are doing it for free?

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    I have free styled at the strip clubs I have worked at and have been successful at it in the past...but my men have since moved on, and the new crop of guys at my club aren't that type, they are better for ITC. I have heard that upscale hotel bars are good places to meet guys, especially ones close to the airport (traveling business men). You just have to be discreet and choose your wording carefully. Be subtle, flirt with him, drop hints, etc. Ask if he's staying there and if he is, great, he's already got a room for you. I haven't done the dating site route but I am tempted to...I would go on the hookup websites because they seem less strict, you can be a little more open (of course, dont mention anything that hints at you being an escort lol). If I met a guy on there I would talk to him on the phone only, and leave nothing in writing so there's no proof.

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