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    Thumbs down Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Ok... so yeah, I'd like to know if anyhow else has experienced the ever increasing ratchetness that has been influxing this industry the past several years (4 years is all I can attest to as thats what Ive danced). But seriously, I have night where I KNOW I am seriously the HOTTEST girl in the entire club.. and ALLLLLLL the ugly ratchet girls that frankly shouldn't even be dancers are the ones easily making money from everyone. What is up with this?? Are their cities where men aren't completely afraid of hot women and a hot dancers can consistently make money WITHOUT doing extras/escorting ?? (ie. not NYC..) , any thoughts on this and how sex being so easily available these days has lowered the worlds standards...


    This was kind of a rant but still it drives me insane when ugly girls (who I KNOW have no effing hustle) are making money and the hottest chics walk out with $300 or less...

    What is wrong with people....
    Does not compute.



    thoughts please on how to deal with these nights??
    (Sorry this post was a rant and superficial)

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Get your hustle up. Looks dont really mean shii... if u wrk in a urban club sometimes its who you know. If ur new u need to b on the floor CONSTANTLY talking to ppl. Dont friend zone urself while talking to ppl. Dont use the word "dance". Dont get discouraged. Nd just bcuz certain girls are making money doesnt mean their doing extras (dont sike urself out like that). I look at some girls who are hotter than me nd i laugh bcuz they think theyve got it all in the bag bcuz their sexy but ill hustle circles around them.
    scared money makes no money

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    I used to b you years ago, we all had to start.
    scared money makes no money

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    I had a situation like this where I was wearing dresses, crystal encrusted costumes and made far less than the plain jane dancers. I whipped up some basic outfits and BOOM! Better money, less headaches. There are clubs like this, towns like this, and you either have to mimic the skanky look that sells or switch clubs.
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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    It can depend on personality, attitude, and hustle. Sure, the less attractive women might be doing extra's which would make men go to them. I have seen this happen in a lot of clubs around here. The women who had no business being a dancers who were hired in but only worked the floor and VIP rooms and never actually danced, while gorgeous modelesque dancers were making less because they weren't into doing extra's. It could have nothing to do with extra's. It could just be that they are more friendly, smiley, and approachable. Less attractive women know that they need to hustle harder to compete with the pretty girls. Figure out what it is that these "ugly ratchet" girls are doing to lure in the guys and try their approach.

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    if you know you're the hottest girl in the club then act like it. get it in your head that any guy should want to spend all his money on you. watch the magic happen.

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Working at a club where extras aren't rare, I know what you mean. I wouldn't say I'm the hottest girl most of the time, I'd give myself a 7/10 (6 at my worst), but I'd say I'm pretty cute and feminine. There have been times a dirty customer has told me he thinks I'm the prettiest out of all the girls there that shift and he wants a VIP with me, but instead he takes a girl he said he didn't like just because she offered full on sex to him.

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    It takes more than just looks to be successful. Don't worry about other girls, stay in your own lane, know your target customers and play your strengths.

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Yes I do notice it getting more ratchet. Some of the outfits girls are allowed on the floor with are insane. They look like they dug through the clearance rack of Hot Topic and paired it with whatever Walmart underwear they had.

    My friend actually asked a customer the other night why he bought dances from the resident Hot Mess and he said he feels like he's helping and she needs it. So there's that logic for ya.

    Anyways I usually try to mass appeal in some way; I like black and garter belts with stockings; they seem to be able to appeal to the classy AND the trashy guys. Change your music depending on the crowd or use something that fits either way. Etc.
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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Yes it's ratchet

    weird but some dudes like aggressive ratchet broads. It's hard to say no to them and the men think the rougher looking women are more likely to do extras than the pretty prissy ones

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    men and women are so different lol...guys will look at a pretty chick all nite on stage and end up only spending his money getting blowed by toothless Tina meanwhile he will maybe INSULT the "hottest chick" because he feels rejected already by her just existing lol, in his eyes the most attractive maybe most "stuck up" as well.

    This is not a beauty contest I repeat the strip club is not a beauty contest lols...it IS a game tho!!
    That's why if you are VERY attractive you actually need to have a warmer hustle I've noticed, because the guys are afraid you give air dances cuz you think you're ~too good~ smh guys are idiots but anyways further points ----

    I think we should all keep in mind that while looks can help in every avenue in life (let's be honest good looking people do better in ALL businesses not just stripping) , but looks can only do one thing which is get your foot in the door. After your foot is there the rest of you as to start working as well, or you have no lasting power.

    The uglier more ratchet chicks with bullet hole wounds and pinkeye ONLY have game, they cannot rely on their looks to sell dances or get attention, their hustle IS what they got , therefore their hustle is STRONG AF. The hungrier ur hustle the more successful you will be in stripping , so they honestly have exactly what it takes to make the money....
    I know you said that you think those girls don't have hustle but trust they might even have such good hustle that they are making you think they don't if that makes sense lol..........

    I see so many pretty girls , drop dead gorgeous models , they come to the strip club to get a rude awakening and are upset that a women three times their age is walking around in jeggings with the asscheeks cutout, their hair in a ponytail, nail polish chipping on floor as she walk, and smelling like a sardine left out on the hot sun is the one running circles around the floor and making bank lol.....

    According tho to I guess word of mouth that stripping USED to be a hot girls game only but with club owners becoming increasingly greedier with house fees and tipouts the bar of "hot girl" turned into "girl with house fee and repeat clients" over time ..... kinda whack honestly because I mean you don't see sports players past their prime on the court, or sports players that are not qualified to play playing....and many people compare stripping to sports players careers because we use our bodies etc.......but the team owners don't benefit monetarily from that , strip club owners DO benefit ....



    Interesting thing to think about this topic ......but end of the day I don't care if other hoes are ratchet or gorgeous and I expect both types of chicks to be at any club I work at actually .....but I lowkey wish that strip club owners were less greedy lol...I doubt they ever will be tho smh




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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    remember this as well, guys can look at pretty women on Instagram and on porn and on all kinds of media in this world, he can LOOK at beautiful women whenever he WANTS, what men go to the strip club for is to CONNECT (whether that is by him getting extras or getting really grindy dances or just talking you know how it goes, whatever the guy likes right)

    So get in his head he is at the strip club because he wants some kind of human interaction, in his horney pee sized brain he is used to having the hotter chicks tell him to stop pushing boundaries etc, so he is in the strip club and he doesn't want his money to go to waste he chooses the more homely girl to get his desires fulfilled .

    Kinda like how we stop caring what the guy looks like the more money starts falling out of their wallet, the customers care less and less what we look like the more we cater to their needs. The best thing to figure out as a dancer is what exactly each customer is looking for and then play into that role. Part of my game is testing out how guys react to certain things to gauge what they like, once I get enough clues ITS OVER FOR THEM I WIN. At that point ive used psychology to become his "perfect" girl, so even the "hotter" girls don't stand a chance with my new customer cuz I've manipulated him lol....

    This job is really just psychology and sells....looks are what gets you hired...




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    That's why guys tips the girls they like or know or spend time with on stage instead of always just throwing money on the the hottest model in the club or girl who does the best stage/pole show......they don't care about our pole tricks or our hair or our makeup...they want US to care about THEM. We are service providers ...not models.....we get paid to provide a service or the girlfriend experience....




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    I love how we've gone so far as to create the character toothless Tina to embody this shit.

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    Yes it has become so rachet.
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    Ratchet girl anthem


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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    One of the clubs here has a HUGE banner, made with club logo and everything, hung in the dressing room, that says "GO RATCHET, GO HOME... No ratchet chicks allowed".

    Yeah I would say it's a pervasive problem.
    "People jack off with the left hand and point with the right."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litch View Post
    if you know you're the hottest girl in the club then act like it. get it in your head that any guy should want to spend all his money on you. watch the magic happen.
    I do as far as my confidence goes... but I am gonna try this one night where I go up to guys I know are staring and terrified of me and just be sweet but aggressive with them spending money... the thing is I just have to be very charismatic about it.. ; usually I play the aloof snobby/bitch face role mostly due to social anxiety.. but because Im attractive it comes off as bitchy to people. The biggest hurdle I notice with men that think I am their fantasy or men that are afraid of me, is getting them out of the mindset that I am "working"... I feel like guys would rather spend their money on uglier girls not necessarily because of their hustle but because these guys legit think they have a chance to sleep with them. No matter how sweet or how much I hustle a guy into the mindset he has a chance, because of my looks, they seriously never believe it; unless stupidly drunk.

    It's not a lack of hustle that I notice it's more the girls that are less attractive typically will only make money when they let a guy get very disrespectful with them or they allow things to happen that I never would. Im not gonna let a guy disrespect me for money. So Im trying to find a balance here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    One of the clubs here has a HUGE banner, made with club logo and everything, hung in the dressing room, that says "GO RATCHET, GO HOME... No ratchet chicks allowed".

    Yeah I would say it's a pervasive problem.

    the fact that its even more common now for guys to ask to have me sit on their face for a dollar or twerk in their face or just all kinds of shit like that, the fact that thats so common they think I'm weird cuz i won't do it, is like a ratchet issue...like, dude no. Fuck your dollar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    Yes I do notice it getting more ratchet. Some of the outfits girls are allowed on the floor with are insane. They look like they dug through the clearance rack of Hot Topic and paired it with whatever Walmart underwear they had.

    My friend actually asked a customer the other night why he bought dances from the resident Hot Mess and he said he feels like he's helping and she needs it. So there's that logic for ya.

    Anyways I usually try to mass appeal in some way; I like black and garter belts with stockings; they seem to be able to appeal to the classy AND the trashy guys. Change your music depending on the crowd or use something that fits either way. Etc.
    I do the same with stockings and garters haha, there are always those guys with thigh high fetishes too... ; but yeah I have known girls to use to "pity" technique as literally the way they hustle... lots of single moms do it too.. I find it pathetic; but the guilt trip shit seems to work on weak men.

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    Is twerking always like, a priori, ratchet? I live in a place where ppl don't really tip on stage and I make excellent stage money/ or table dance money on weekends twerking for the American tourists because I have a good ass. Why bother hustling CRs all night when I'm making more for 0 mileage because ppl are throwing money? I don't dance to ratchet music - just Drake or Rihanna? I'm just wondering where we draw the line w/ what is and isn't ratchet. Also I feel like there were ratchet girls in this business before ppl became aware of ratchet culture. These girls were either considered poor or trashy- and when they started making money they either invested in "class drag" speech class, Invisalign, better clothes, Facials, quitting smoking what have you, or they got pimps and remained trashy... or they got pimps and upped their class presentation. Just wondering if because we now have a name for it we're more aware of it....

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    Default Re: Is this industry just getting more ratchet or what??

    I feel like it's always been ratchet. Just ratchet is the word for it now. Lol

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