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    is it just impossible to make money in these urban clubs that have a huge instagram following if youre not popular on instagram? everytime i work in these spots i start to feel like i forgot how to be a stripper. i start to feel out of place.. and people will compliment me and tell me im thick, i have ass, i know how to move.. yet i make no money 4 times out of 5! the few nights i did good had me going back.. but it doesnt make sense when all the other nights i get nothing.

    its like all these clubs in queens are a joke. ive seen gorgeous dancers with huge asses make nothing on some nights the club was packed. its like literally 95% of the customers are broke young people going for the novelty because its all rappers talk about. then the 5% that tip are the locally popular people that only tip the girls that have a lot of followers on ig. ive only been dancing about 4 months, and dancers that have been in the game a long time keep telling me it wasnt like this before.. welp here i am starting my dancing in the nyc metropolitan area in 2017.

    i was making good money at a mixed dive, but now i wont go back because the manager was disrespectful to me. ive been trying to find another mixed-divey-urban spot. im considering white clubs, ive had people tell me i would do great in manhattan, but i refuse to work anywhere where extras are common.

    i dont even necessarily expect any real recommendations here. i know dancers dont wanna say if their club is good for fear of loads of new dancers coming in. just want to vent and see if anyone can relate?

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    You can't expect much when there isn't even a drink minimum at the bar and when the bartenders are held to a higher standard than the dancers.

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    Smh. That's why I HATE urban clubs. The internet is killing the clubs!
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    Blac Chyna, Amber Rose, CardiB and the rest of them have changed the game.

    Social media is extremely important, even if you only focus on local ventures and not trying to blow up all over the world. I hear and see this hustle a lot among my friends who are still working in clubs. It definitely takes more effort than just randomly showing up at a specific time or place when it comes to urban clubs.

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    ^ it's a whole new ball game and difference hustle completely. That's why I always crashed and burned at them LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    Blac Chyna, Amber Rose, CardiB and the rest of them have changed the game.

    Social media is extremely important, even if you only focus on local ventures and not trying to blow up all over the world. I hear and see this hustle a lot among my friends who are still working in clubs. It definitely takes more effort than just randomly showing up at a specific time or place when it comes to urban clubs.
    yes its like its this big club/community/social circle that is so hard to break into. it seems certain local rappers/hosts/drug dealers/etc tip well, but others dont, so dancers gotta get to know whos who and check the flyers before deciding where to work each night.. its so much insider info thats necessary its just insane.. then the dancers, bartenders, promoters and managers are always gossiping about each other and throwing subliminals on ig.. so much drama

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    The key for me was to find mixed clubs, that didn't have promoters and intense bartender culture. Only NY/ north jersey really has this issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonangelko View Post
    The key for me was to find mixed clubs, that didn't have promoters and intense bartender culture. Only NY/ north jersey really has this issue.
    and the funny thing is, all this urban strip club culture blew up in new york from the influence of the south in through hip hop... but down south people think new yorkers are retarded with how they spend on bartenders

    and yeah thats what im trying to teach myself to stick to right now.. i think i tried almost all the urban spots in queens and learned my lesson the hard way.. im tryna go to hi beams but they dont answer their phone or DMs. do you know if theyre okay with dancers walking in and what time is good? im driving from far so i never do walk ins

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    and the funny thing is, all this urban strip club culture blew up in new york from the influence of the south in through hip hop... but down south people think new yorkers are retarded with how they spend on bartenders

    and yeah thats what im trying to teach myself to stick to right now.. i think i tried almost all the urban spots in queens and learned my lesson the hard way.. im tryna go to hi beams but they dont answer their phone or DMs. do you know if theyre okay with dancers walking in and what time is good? im driving from far so i never do walk ins
    The bartender culture that y'all are talking about happens in the south too. Except I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to it that way in the south? Bartender culture? But they are known in many cases to be considered as the rockstars of nightlife entertainment. In fact Bartenders were using social media to draw crowds long before dancers were. I mean back in the myspace days. I tended bar for 10 years(nightclubs,strippy and bars) Many clubs will not hire you unless you have a following. I can't speak on NYC but I can tell you quite a bit about Atlanta and Miami.

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    This is why I'm glad i got out of NY when i did. I mainly worked urban clubs out there. I'm so sorry to hear you are going through this. I still know of one mixed club with good money that isn't completely upscale. A lot of my friends have moved onto there but the scheduling requirements are insane. PM if u would like the info

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    That is so bizarre, I work in a more business style club and never had this issue. Being petite though I especially feel like shit when its more urban/young folks that come in.
    Maybe try finding a different club around NY that is less urban. I'm sure it will be worth it even if its far because you'll be making more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsthelala View Post

    its like all these clubs in queens are a joke. ive seen gorgeous dancers with huge asses make nothing on some nights the club was packed. its like literally 95% of the customers are broke young people going for the novelty because its all rappers talk about. then the 5% that tip are the locally popular people that only tip the girls that have a lot of followers on ig. ive only been dancing about 4 months, and dancers that have been in the game a long time keep telling me it wasnt like this before.. welp here i am starting my dancing in the nyc metropolitan area in 2017.
    It's gonna sound bad but it's a culture that rewards dysfunction. So the gorgeous normal girls will be too boring for them. They want the over the top, bad bitch, money addicted freakho type. See what I mean. Cardi B is an idiot and to an extent they want a chick who isn't more intelligent than them, who'll do something idiotic with the money to "stunt on dem hoes". Truthfully, you sound too intelligent. You have boundaries, you care about being arrested. If it was a mixed crowd I'd say go for the outliers like dorkier guys or non Black guys who are wannabes.
    My roommate used to have a drug dealer regular/boyfriend and he was a flaming idiot BUT she could roll with him as long as she kept it dumbed down and pretended to worship him/his money.

    I wouldn't worry about the extras others are doing. You realize in these urban clubs girls do escort? Chyna certainly made it super clear that she had a price. Try Manhattan and see if it works for you. Stop working for peanuts 4 days a week. That will burn you out super fast.
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    Ughhh I have the same issue! I know I ~got it going on~ but make scraps. Hate the emotional labor required at white clubs but that’s where I find myself again bc I need to make more than 200 a shift ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optimist View Post
    It's gonna sound bad but it's a culture that rewards dysfunction. So the gorgeous normal girls will be too boring for them. They want the over the top, bad bitch, money addicted freakho type. See what I mean. Cardi B is an idiot and to an extent they want a chick who isn't more intelligent than them, who'll do something idiotic with the money to "stunt on dem hoes". Truthfully, you sound too intelligent. You have boundaries, you care about being arrested. If it was a mixed crowd I'd say go for the outliers like dorkier guys or non Black guys who are wannabes.
    My roommate used to have a drug dealer regular/boyfriend and he was a flaming idiot BUT she could roll with him as long as she kept it dumbed down and pretended to worship him/his money.

    I wouldn't worry about the extras others are doing. You realize in these urban clubs girls do escort? Chyna certainly made it super clear that she had a price. Try Manhattan and see if it works for you. Stop working for peanuts 4 days a week. That will burn you out super fast.
    really late reply but yeah ive thought of trying manhattan but im scared of the "extras" environment i keep hearing about. im used to working for managers that at least show common decency to dancers and manhattan seems overwhelmingly cut throat.

    crazy thing thats going on this week idk if youve heard but dancers in queens and bk are now trying to boycott and go on strike, theyre all fed up of the bartenders getting all the attention. the promoters are all making fun of them of course and saying its jealousy. just like you said here, theyre idiots and the girls that act like idiots get the most money from them. i cant stand it. im hoping all thats going on now will make some kind of change.. but who knows

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    The bartender culture that y'all are talking about happens in the south too. Except I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to it that way in the south? Bartender culture? But they are known in many cases to be considered as the rockstars of nightlife entertainment. In fact Bartenders were using social media to draw crowds long before dancers were. I mean back in the myspace days. I tended bar for 10 years(nightclubs,strippy and bars) Many clubs will not hire you unless you have a following. I can't speak on NYC but I can tell you quite a bit about Atlanta and Miami.
    late reply but the bartender culture were talking about in NYC is nothing like any other place has ever seen before. the bartenders in brooklyn and queens wear stripper outfits and twerk for the customers. the stages are behind the bar, so the bartenders and strippers work next to each other. the club also has higher standards for the bartenders, and most of them have had work done. the bartenders often get much bigger amounts of money rained on them than the dancers. dancers in the urban clubs in nyc are now trying to go on strike fighting back because the customers have started to sometimes ignore dancers and only make it rain on bartenders. if you want to see just go on instagram and look up the pages of starlets, lust, sugardaddies, and angels.

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    Once a stripper gets all her work done and she is hot enough, she gets "promoted" to bartender. Those bartenders are often making 2g a night twerking, serving hennesy, and posting pics on IG. The problem is they have WAY too many bartenders and they hold them to a higher standard to the point that the dancers, oftentimes (with the acception of Aces) are subpar or just not attractive --they need to get housefees someway. The bartenders are constantly being rained on and sincethe stage is behind the bartender if the money is intended for the dancer(s) on stage, the money doesn't always land on the stage and instead lands in "bartender territory". I've heard the stories from dancers that work there, it's really really bad. The bartenders are extremely stuck up and say shit like "I'm not a stripper, I'm a BARTENDER", but like you said wear the tiniest outfit (management makes them wear it) and twerk for dollars. I don't blame them for suing. Urban club dancers that don't want to bartend or don't have the qualifications to bartend (most the time extremely exaggerated BBL's, lipos, tits, lips) are literally left out to rot. And the dancers that DO do well are Instafamous and also post pics/videos all night/day long in hopes that when they get called to stage they get rained on hundreds/thousands. The guys save their money for THOSE girls and the bartenders. If you're a beautiful girl but not IG famous or don't have a lot of work done, you're not gonna get rained on. Even if you do have a lot of work done,if you don't have a name for yourself you're just another girl in the hoodclub with a big butt. They wanna feel like you're someone or something before they make it rain on you.

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    Arielbriel thank you. That is 100% truth and why many of my urban club friends have moved onto mixed clubs or to jersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsthelala View Post
    late reply but the bartender culture were talking about in NYC is nothing like any other place has ever seen before. the bartenders in brooklyn and queens wear stripper outfits and twerk for the customers. the stages are behind the bar, so the bartenders and strippers work next to each other. the club also has higher standards for the bartenders, and most of them have had work done. the bartenders often get much bigger amounts of money rained on them than the dancers. dancers in the urban clubs in nyc are now trying to go on strike fighting back because the customers have started to sometimes ignore dancers and only make it rain on bartenders. if you want to see just go on instagram and look up the pages of starlets, lust, sugardaddies, and angels.
    Yea I saw some of the InstaDrama yesterday. I learned a new phrase "Roaching" that sounds disgusting. WTH is that?

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    I think t means crawling all over the floor trying to pick up money that may or
    May not belong to you. To add insult to injury , guys record then doing this and put it on snap as if to
    Make fun of them.

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    That club sounds like a god damn mess. Never in any strip club should the bartenders be the star of the show or the main moneymakers. That's just not right.

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    I'm so glad I don't live in NY. Holy shit man. How are strippers supposed to compete with this? Eventually they won't have strippers working there anymore. It will just be bartender strippers running the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    Yea I saw some of the InstaDrama yesterday. I learned a new phrase "Roaching" that sounds disgusting. WTH is that?
    some male customers will throw lots of money in the air with the intent of enjoying watching the dancers all scramble for it. also, sometimes the newbie/tacky strippers that dont know better will literally just hang around nearby dancers getting rained on in hopes of secretly grabbing a little bit

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    Those bartenders should be paying house fees instead of the dancers then. Or dancers should boycott these clubs. This is so unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsthelala View Post
    some male customers will throw lots of money in the air with the intent of enjoying watching the dancers all scramble for it. also, sometimes the newbie/tacky strippers that dont know better will literally just hang around nearby dancers getting rained on in hopes of secretly grabbing a little bit
    This sounds so degrading. Ugh. While the bartenders get treated like little princesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    Those bartenders should be paying house fees instead of the dancers then. Or dancers should boycott these clubs. This is so unfair.
    were trying to boycott them right now, but its hard because a lot of dancers are probably going to keep going back. im personally hoping the whole striptending thing will come to a complete end, but it will probably take a long time.

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