He died today. I really need to be consoled. He was a personal icon to me.




He died today. I really need to be consoled. He was a personal icon to me.
This is terrible!
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playboy, play hard.
I like being alone, I just don't like being lonely.
RIP Hef. A full, fun life indeed.
So sad! An end of an era.





He was what, 91? No big surprise. Not that I want to see anyone die before they need or want to.
And much as he did for the cause of sexual freedom, he was also a hypocrite who refused to tolerate 'his' SOs from fooling around, and kept them on a ridiculous, contrived leash--as well as all the women living in his homes, while he banged everything that walked.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
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He was at least a literary man. No question about that.
But I imagine he died surrounded by beeping machines, kinda like the 'Protestant birth scene' in Monty Python's 'The Meaning of Life'.
However, in his mind, he probably WAS surrounded by beautiful women. Only Kublai Khan or maybe Ramesses II had more beautiful women fawning over him, and even that is doubtful.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________
I agree. He did live a long life. I didn't know about the hypocritical thing with his SO's. Isn't that every man's dream though, even regular civilian men, to bang a bunch of hot women while they have some naive woman at home, totally monogamous and loyal to them? I'm getting o/t, I know. May he rest in peace.





If you want to take a look around his mansion, you can do it here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/playb...r-home-2017-9/





I read somewhere it was in bad shape and sold for land value.
I almost auditioned to pole dance at one of his Halloween parties a few years back. Wish I did now.





The guy who bought it, also owns the house next door, which HH previously purchased for ex-wife Kimberly. He offered her the option of it, she refused, tried to sue him for more & lost.
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt




Old skool he was. But classy. More Marilyn Monroe, actually got left behind by Penthouse and Hustler when he refused to show bits down there... He did a lot for the sexual revolution and fought the government over censorship. A fight they started. Guess I'll overlook that one fault...
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I don't know what it is about me that says "wife me up." Everyone wants to choke me or date me. Or both. This job is weird.
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... Kittens are assholes but they're just so darn cute.





Read 'Thy Neighbor's Wife', by Gay Talese. It was a Best Seller when Hefner was still in his prime. Though he was criticized for supposedly 'fawning over' Hefner, and the icon was indeed portrayed in a very favorable light, the reality of the conditions imposed on his SOs were revealed.
Hef took a glorious stand for sexual freedom. But allowed none whatsoever to his women. If that isn't hypocrisy, I don't know how else to define it.
He also knuckled under to the Reagan Era 'Moral Majority' movement in a number of significant ways. Prior to their threat of massive boycott of the 711 chain stores, and those chain stores' subsequent removal of Playboy & Penthouse magazines from their shelves, Playboy magazine had shown nude women without hiding their labia.
After the Bible beaters won that battle with ridiculous ease, Playboy started heavily airbrushing ALL TRACE of women's extremely threatening vaginal lips from every single issue. A practice carried into the 90s.
And no more drawings of the live sex shows with dogs at the Playboy mansion, by the Playboy 'House Artist' LeRoy Neiman lol.
The editorial content also became infinitely more tame in that same period. Though you can't necessarily fault Hefner for blithely going along with the prevailing political current, the great iconoclast ceased and desisted any serious provocation of mores.
ETA, the artist's name is LeRoy Neiman, not Neiman Marcus lolol
Last edited by Djoser; 09-28-2017 at 06:06 PM.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





Wait, sex shows w/animals? No, I don't want to know, hope not tho.
I read thy neighbor wife long ago, it said he was insecure about being rejected by females so that fuelled who he was? Idk.
Anyway..
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt





Another, somewhat less favorable (though not really hostile) book that revealed much of the behind the scenes action at the mansion and in the magazine is 'Suze!'
This was an autobiography of Suze Randall, a pioneer in the porn industry, and one of the first women to really make a name for herself. She was one of Hef's most prominent photographers after discovering the 1975 PMOY, a spectacular beauty named Lillian Mueller. But she parted ways after Hefner started clamping down on the explicit photography, and also started shooting for other magazines. I guess Hef didn't allow his photographers to stray either.![]()
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





Probably Neiman regrets doing that particular drawing (part of a series depicting real events at Playboy parties). If he's even still alive. He was primarily an outrageously successful sports artist, but also drew a lot of women for Playboy in his iconic 'messy style'.
And yes, Hefner's wife had cheated on him, though I suspect all the draconian rules he made his resident models and girlfriends follow would have been imposed regardless.
I simply can't understand how a man who had so many beautiful women at his beck and call could be so blatantly insecure as to make them follow all the ridiculous contrived rules.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





I stopped following Hefner's life, parties, girlfriends, etc in the mid 90s, being kind of disgusted with what I had read before. But I have no doubt that his ability to keep dozens of beautiful models satisfied single handedly in his 70s was limited, and that many of them managed to circumvent the rules.
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You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donkey_show
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the type of sexual performance. For the comedy album by The Bob and Tom Show, see Donkey Show. For the adaptation of A Midsummer Night's Dream, see The Donkey Show (musical).
Not to be confused with Dog and pony show.
A bar in Boy's Town, Nuevo Laredo, Mexico advertising a nightly "donkey's show"
A donkey show is a type of sexual performance most often associated with Tijuana, Mexico, in which a woman engages in bestiality with a donkey.[1][2]
Local taxi drivers offer tourists a ride to see a donkey show in the red light district.[3] The shows are difficult to verify and may be urban legends, but anecdotal accounts are frequent.[4][5] Author Jim Dawson writes: "No doubt there are clandestine clubs that have put these sordid floorshows on display, but if every man who claims he actually saw one is telling the truth, there must be a lot of bowlegged women hobbling around Tijuana."[2] Gustavo Arellano, in his ˇAsk a Mexican! column, argues that donkey shows are not real.[6]
The "donkey show" in Tijuana myth is deeply embedded in American film, including Losin' It (1983), Bachelor Party (1984), The 40-Year Old Virgin (2005), Clerks II (2006), The Heartbreak Kid (2007), and Cake (2014).[citation needed]
In the 2005 book The Godfather Returns written by Mark Winegardner, Fredo Corleone's wife Deanna Dunn insists on attending one: "on a whim, they'd headed to Mexico. When they'd gotten there, Deanna Dunn, insisted on going to see a donkey show. ... who thought that watching a donkey fuck a teenage Indian girl was a hoot."[7]
It is occasionally given as a reason to visit Tijuana. From time to time one may come across naive tourists going up and down La Coahuila street, unsuccessfully trying to find the show.[8]
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Not checking out any of that, some stuff is too degenerate for me..
Anyway, I heard some stuff awhile back about Linda Lovelace being made to do stuff @ the mansion
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt





I doubt that. She claimed she was forced to do a lot of stuff, including a film with a dog (which was supposedly Hefner's favorite at the time), but Hefner wasn't in any way behind that film I don't think.
I don't believe anything any adult film star who later converts to hardcore Bible beating claims about their motivation. (Same as murderers or other sickos in jail who suddenly find Jesus. Though sexuality explicit acts are nothing compared to rape or murder.)
He did have her in his magazine 2-3 times after that film and her much more famous film Deep Throat came out, and no doubt at his parties.
There were the drawings from live scenes at the parties. I've heard a lot of other stuff but it's not corroborated.
So this particular bit of sordid history is not urban fiction or apocryphal.
You must have chaos within you to give birth to a dancing star.
Friedrich Nietzsche
Free your mind, and your ass will follow.
George Clinton
______________________________________





I saw her @PB event in a near by convention center right before she died, she looked really bad @ the time
MANY MEN WANTED TO LAY ME DOWN, BUT FEW WANTED TO LIFT ME UP
-Eartha Kitt
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