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    Default Teenage girl who claims two NYPD cops raped her in handcuffs

    • Teen at the center of shock NYPD rape allegations speaks out through lawyer
    • She says one NYPD detective raped her and another forced her to perform oral sex after she was caught smoking pot on Coney Island
    • Detectives Richard Hall and Eddie Martins have been placed on modified duty
    • The two detectives, from the NYPD's Brooklyn South narcotics squad, did not deny the sexual acts but claimed they were consensual, police sources said
    • Teen tweets link to DailyMail.com story about the case, expresses shock at cops
    • Brooklyn District Attorney's Office and NYPD Internal Affairs are investigating



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    Default Re: Teenage girl who claims two NYPD cops raped her in handcuffs

    Gross!

    Don't know if they are true rapists or that woman is a liar but either way its an abuse of power and therefore trenching into rape category.

    The way they criminalize weed ..... they know this. and offering an impressionable teen to suck a dick to avoid "drug" charges is just ... i have no words.

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    That is extremely disturbing. How could she possibly have consented when she was in their custody at the time facing a possible drug charge? Sorry, but I see jail time in their future.

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    She's 18. you can easily imagine how she got manipulated or blackmailed into "consensual sex". As I wished, the punishment for police officer should always be doubled in such a case.
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    It seems absurd that anyone could think that she possibly consented to sex acts while in police custody. Cops are allowed to fuck on the job now? This girl is a sex worker so she has that working against her but still. That doesn't give the police a free card to take advantage of her like that.

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    Where did you see that she is a sex worker? ^

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    It's not in that article. I just happen to know something because I've seen her xxx films. Pm me if you want to. Regardless its not right for cops to take advantage of her.
    In a way, that makes the story even worse, because it is possible that they targeted her because of it. After all, what were two detectives doing in that park in the first place, especially when they were supposed to be working somewhere else? Why did they take just her when they had two males who they also could have arrested? Why did they ultimately decide to release her unless the whole arrest was just a pretext to pressure her into sex? Did all of this happen, in part, because they thought she would be an easy target? Did they learn who she was while they had her in custody, which then led to them believing that they could get away with having their way with her?

    This just stinks of both rape and an inexcusable abuse of police power. I am normally the first guy to question stories like this on here, especially when they seem to be light on evidence and heavy on question mark issues. But in this case there is simply no justification for what happened, even if she did "consent" as they claimed. She was in their custody and facing drug charges. There is little doubt in my mind that, at the very least, she felt coerced, even if she did say yes. And in this instance, I suspect that the answers to all of the question mark issues that I raised above are also likely to make the detectives look even worse once everything comes out.
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    Default Re: Teenage girl who claims two NYPD cops raped her in handcuffs

    There is more shady stories coming out of the NYPD, the Bronx & such. Like beating up young black & latin boys on a regular basis, putting them in jail & forcing them to testify with made up stories upon other POC underage 18 boys. Since they are cops, they walk right into the homes of single mothers & do it often. Threatening to rape the mother if the child doesn't do what they want.

    Major corruption, forced false statements, blackmail, assault, rape and child endangerment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    It's not in that article. I just happen to know something because I've seen her xxx films. Pm me if you want to. Regardless its not right for cops to take advantage of her.
    What she does for a living has ZERO to do with being blackmailed with the threat of jail for sex. The police had all the power & threats like that are very real. Intimidating another person into any sexual act is rape. Did she really have any choice? Is she had said no, cops like that could have beaten her up, planted harder drugs on her.

    Doing porn doesnt create consent automatically in any way, shape or form. No, sex work does & you adding that information, plus willingness to share it privately is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    What she does for a living has ZERO to do with being blackmailed with the threat of jail for sex. The police had all the power & threats like that are very real. Intimidating another person into any sexual act is rape. Did she really have any choice? Is she had said no, cops like that could have beaten her up, planted harder drugs on her.

    Doing porn doesnt create consent automatically in any way, shape or form. No, sex work does & you adding that information, plus willingness to share it privately is wrong.
    Ill let wendi speak for herself but I interpret the information she add as a possible reason why the police allegedly proposition her for oral sex. Not that wendi was co-signing on that type of behavior but merely an explanation as one reason for their behavior.

    Most people on this thread are sane and know that consent applies to anyone regardless of economic standing, race, career, etc

    But due to the stigma society puts on people in the adult industry people treat them as if they don't have the same rights to consent as the average person (ex. people saying pr*stitutes can't be raped, anyone who works in adult industry is a pr*stitute, etc). This sadly is a common theme - given threads like that one about the dancer complaining about ass touching in the strip club because men felt entitled to grope strippers because hey its the strip club, or that deleted thread where that dude who thought nothing was wrong with him propositioning his maid for sex while witholding compensation.

    If the woman is indeed an adult performer - that woman can't hide that info (especially now in this high profile case) - so its unrealistic to expect a person who performs for public viewing to remain anonymous especially in the face of a case that is going viral on the web.

    In fact if the woman wanted anonymity she would have quietly accepted her "drug" charges for choosing to break the (what I think are shitty) laws where she lives and went about her life like nothing happened. Which leads me to believe if she is an adult star, and if she is telling the truth, then she would rather be "out" and public with her story so that she can get justice.

    So I personally don't think she is "wrong" for providing information that either is already known or would be known with simple independent research. You are going after the wrong people (pun intended). The people who decide the outcome of the case are the ones who would benefit from hearing your first sentence.

    Plus this article does not have enough information. For all we know the woman is mentally unstable, could have said 'hey let me suck your dick and make you forget about these charges and neither one of us will mention it", then lied about initiating the alleged oral sex. (which i think is still considered of a form rape because a person in power positions should not offer or take offers for sex while on duty) There literally is not enough info/evidence to know the truth yet.

    *Im not saying that's what happened but simply providing another perspective
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    By discussing or bringing it up & wanting to reveal her porn name even in private helps propagate that this is all okay to discriminate & remove her equal rights & protections under the law. As if somehow she deserved it.

    Why can't she be a victim of rape? If she was a teacher would Wendi have brought up that career? Us doing iit as if it is some salacious information feels wrong to me.

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    Um, not once did I ever say that she deserved to be raped. Anyone can follow her social media accounts which is public, where she posted a picture of herself at a porn convention and pictures of herself with marijuana. Police can and do look at social media, especially public profiles. I can tell you that if these crooked cops did see her social media posts, and recognized her, they targeted her as a sex worker and that is why they took advantage of her. Again, I NEVER said that what they did was justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    By discussing or bringing it up & wanting to reveal her porn name even in private helps propagate that this is all okay to discriminate & remove her equal rights & protections under the law. As if somehow she deserved it.

    Why can't she be a victim of rape? If she was a teacher would Wendi have brought up that career? Us doing iit as if it is some salacious information feels wrong to me.
    People consider a woman who's a porn star or an escort will be more likely to agree to sex with less struggle. Those cops rolled the dice on her and forced her into "consensual" sex. They might not do that to another teenage because she could be more reluctant and mroe likely to sue later. And that's the reason why wendi mentioned her career and nothing more, I am pretty certain.
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    Was with my friend in New York last month who's from there and a cop tried to talk to her in line for pizza cause she's a dime- her reply, "shouldn't you be raping women in the East Village or something" - that was the last high profile case, where two detectives offered to help a drunk woman home and raped her all night. You should have seen the look on this guys face! The cops know there's been too much abuse and they are not respected. Aside from one very young detective who was a sweetheart cops are always my least favourite customers.

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    Consensual huh? It was rape but even if it was so the two need to be kicked off the force !

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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    She's 18. you can easily imagine how she got manipulated or blackmailed into "consensual sex". As I wished, the punishment for police officer should always be doubled in such a case.
    Sadly in the Oakland case, instead of being charged with sex crimes, the police were given "letters of reprimand".

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ice-force.html

    'This is terribly outrageous,' her attorney John Burris told Courthouse News regarding the new allegations against the Richmond police.

    'They took advantage of a vulnerable young person. Girls like this are always suffering from some psychological deficit of some kind. Instead of acknowledging that and getting her help, they took advantage of her vulnerabilities. That's the most negative and damning aspect of this.'

    Eleven Richmond officers were identified for discipline after the scandal in Oakland went public.

    Of those 11, one officer was recommended for termination, one for demotion, two for suspensions of 80 hours and 120 hours, and five to receive letters of reprimand, according to the complaint. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ice-force.html
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...teen-girl.html

    Two NYPD drugs cops are charged with raping 18-year-old woman in the back of a police van while she was in HANDCUFFS after being arrested for smoking pot
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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    People consider a woman who's a porn star or an escort will be more likely to agree to sex with less struggle. Those cops rolled the dice on her and forced her into "consensual" sex. They might not do that to another teenage because she could be more reluctant and mroe likely to sue later. And that's the reason why wendi mentioned her career and nothing more, I am pretty certain.
    I agree. Having a low social status makes us more vulnerable to abuse. I think that’s why she brought it up. It does matter even though it shouldn’t. Just like raping a wife is rape. Raping a sex worker is rape. We all know a missing sex worker is less likely to be on the news and the resources dedicated to finding him or her.

    I understand what you mean talking about a lie can make a lie seem true if you say it over and over again. On stripper web, I doubt our personal conversations will be used by news reports.

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    I heard today both cops resigned

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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    People consider a woman who's a porn star or an escort will be more likely to agree to sex with less struggle. Those cops rolled the dice on her and forced her into "consensual" sex. They might not do that to another teenage because she could be more reluctant and mroe likely to sue later. And that's the reason why wendi mentioned her career and nothing more, I am pretty certain.
    Right there is the problem your use or the stories use of the term "Sonsensual" because of her doing porn. As if her having done porn now makes being raped aka consensual or sex. It was a violent act of two adult males against a young female in handcuffs being extorted into agreeing to be raped or go to jail.

    At no time was any of it consensual or sex, but her past made those things possible & tainting how people view her. If she had been a waitress, school teacher there is no way consensual or sex would have been mentioned.

    Offering to Dm people her porn name........ just is salacious. Does NOT matter what her porn name is she is someone who will never see justice in this world for what those cops did. All of which makes her a target for more gossip & potentially harassment

    When victims real names & pictures are put out there for the world they become targets for more predators & lots of hate & shaming even though they are the victim. We of all people should want to protect them more, even if the press released her info we don't need to do it too We don't need to make this about her porn but about her NOT getting justice.

    Defining a person by their job & how they are treated is wrong. We deal with it daily, which is why would should be more aware & don't do it.

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    Yes, I'm in another state & have heard this too..
    Ugh, super creepy

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    Let's face it tho, LE has been a topic in the news for quite a while now, in the most negative way..
    I'll just leave that, cause we all follow the news & know what's up.
    Really shitty tho

    Edit - I want to say, w/EV article was quoted may not have shown her in her work context, but I have seen @ least 1 other article that did. J/s

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    It's crazy that there wasn't a law against cops having "sex" with a handcuffed individual. Clearly one cannot consent if they are in restraints and under arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    I heard today both cops resigned
    They quit and they are both being charged with rape.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/n...rape-quit.html

    At least the city is doing the right thing now. But I am still troubled by the fact that these guys felt like they could get away with shit like this in the first place. Of course, this self entitled above the law mentality is obviously not limited to NYC, but there are too many stories coming out of that city right now. In 2016, NYC paid over $220 million to settle police misconduct lawsuits. When you put these things together, it really starts to point to a systemic problem.

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