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    Another crazy old white guy proving he can do it better

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    What about the black t shirt guy?

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    What about the black t shirt guy?
    He was challenging the shooter. Basically making himself a target and putting even more people in danger. Homie had a death wish it appears. A lot of the footage that I've seen over night is really strange. In some cases people are running for their lives while other people are just standing looking around. I know not everyone responds in the same way while in a crisis but it's weird to see the different stages. One picture I saw one girl looked like she was holding her beer and just calmly walking through the people who were huddled on the ground. WTF

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    I don't know if there is a 'rational' response to bullets raining down from the 35th floor, it was probably difficult to determine what the right direction to run/hide was. Will you attract attention by running? Are you huddling in safety or just a sitting duck? Is it over, should you try to help? We tend to think we would do the 'right' thing but when you are unsure what the right thing is, what do you do?

    My understanding is in Basic Training, one of the last things is the live fire exercise. Shoot real bullets over your head as you crawl on the ground. One of every X people stands up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    He was challenging the shooter. Basically making himself a target and putting even more people in danger. Homie had a death wish it appears. A lot of the footage that I've seen over night is really strange. In some cases people are running for their lives while other people are just standing looking around. I know not everyone responds in the same way while in a crisis but it's weird to see the different stages. One picture I saw one girl looked like she was holding her beer and just calmly walking through the people who were huddled on the ground. WTF
    WTF is right!!!!

    All I can say about this right now

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    wow i watched a lot of videos but hadn't seen this one, it made me tear up a bit. that is awful. it seems like nowhere is safe anymore..

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Highly intoxicated/Liquor = delayed reaction, thinking you're invincible, etc. Add to this being in shock

    It's sad when people can't go out in public and unwind without psychos shooting up the place.

    Any time I go to places with large crowds, Im wearing running shoes and sitting/standing near the exit - RTG

    These psychos need a one way ticket to the pits of Hell (or some other burning torture chamber)
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    Something about this isn't right to me. How can 1 man unload 10 automatic weapons and kill him self before the police finds him by himself? They let his companion go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldster View Post
    Another crazy old white guy proving he can do it better
    That bothers me that there's always some sadist t*rrorist trying to go down in history as THE greatest mass killer. Like who can use the most high powered gun and kill the most people? Like some sick competition. How did he access a gun like that?

    I noticed on YT that this is now the 'deadliest' shooting in history....

    I remember that time when I think the DC mass killer was unidentified and on the loose. Everyone thought he was white ...... until they discovered he was riding a cutlass and left a note talking about "word is bond"

    But this dude right here.....I wont say his name because he doesnt deserve recognition .... but that trick is ugly as hell. He was supposedly on FBI most wanted list and a diagnosed as a psychopath

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    That bothers me that there's always some sadist t*rrorist trying to go down in history as THE greatest mass killer. Like who can use the most high powered gun and kill the most people? Like some sick competition. How did he access a gun like that?

    I noticed on YT that this is now the 'deadliest' shooting in history....

    I remember that time when I think the DC mass killer was unidentified and on the loose. Everyone thought he was white ...... until they discovered he was riding a cutlass and left a note talking about "word is bond"

    But this dude right here.....I wont say his name because he doesnt deserve recognition .... but that trick is ugly as hell. He was supposedly on FBI most wanted list and a diagnosed as a psychopath
    Actually that was his father who was on the FBI list because he was a well known bank robber. This guy was a retired accountant living in a upscale retirement community. This seems like some Scandal shit to me.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    and right now im seeing 58 dead (including shooter) 500+ injured just to update the earlier numbers

    with pictures out his hotel window? yeah im shocked it wasn't higher, that literally was a fish in a barrel situation with a full range of the entire park
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    So he was shooting from the hotel window?

    What a coward!


    Ok so Im reading Fox news and it says this trick passed an FBI background check???? WTF kind of fru-fru basic ass background check is that? The mere fact that his damn father was on FBI most wanted list should have eliminated him right there because im sorry but the apple don't fall far from the tree.

    FBI needs to tighten up because they the same ones that investigated that crazy ass Orlando shooter twice, let him go, then dude goes on to shoot up the airport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wish View Post
    Actually that was his father who was on the FBI list because he was a well known bank robber. This guy was a retired accountant living in a upscale retirement community.
    He looks just as ugly as his dad. With that hideous smug look on his face......crunching numbers while somebody should have been crunching his testicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    So he was shooting from the hotel window?

    What a coward!


    Ok so Im reading Fox news and it says this trick passed an FBI background check???? WTF kind of fru-fru basic ass background check is that? The mere fact that his damn father was on FBI most wanted list should have eliminated him right there because im sorry but the apple don't fall far from the tree.

    FBI needs to tighten up because they the same ones that investigated that crazy ass Orlando shooter twice, let him go, then dude goes on to shoot up the airport.
    They need to adopt the United Kingdoms methods for screening. I'm just amazed no one is accepting that the scariest killers in the US are right from here...always among us..
    I guess that thought is too terrifying
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    And upon further research from cnn

    The suspect had a pilot's license but he was not up to date on the medical certification he would need in order to fly legally, a federal official said.
    • The FAA website shows that the last time he went to get the medical certification required for private pilots who want to fly was February 2008 so he could not have flown legally recently.
    • The FAA will not release any information regarding his mental health from his last certification in 2008 because it is protected under federal privacy rules.

    ***I don't want to speculate but this asshole couldn't get a medical certification to fly but he can pass a fbi check to buy 30 guns and convert to autos????

    There is a loophole and hopefully they figure a way to close it before yet another mass shooting

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    The medical certificate and the firearms check are two different things. The medical has to be renewed periodically, and it could be he just did not do it.

    The firearms check is done when you buy a firearm, and does not concern itself with blood pressure, heart disease, etc.

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    This would probably be an unconstitutional corruption of blood under Article III section 3

    "2: The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted."

    http://constitutionus.com/

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    Top CBS lawyer is fired after writing that she has 'no sympathy' for Vegas victims because they were 'probably gun-toting Republicans'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...thy-Vegas.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    And upon further research from cnn


    ***I don't want to speculate but this asshole couldn't get a medical certification to fly but he can pass a fbi check to buy 30 guns and convert to autos????
    First you got me thinking, is he a terrorist? then I google the definition of a terrorist:
    ter·ror·ist
    ˈterərəst/
    noun
    noun: terrorist; plural noun: terrorists

    1.
    a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


    So far we don't know anything about his political aims yet.

    I didn't know he converted his guns into full autos. That makes more sense... sort of... depends on the gun itself. In order to get a full auto weapon, you need to buy the stamp ($200-$300) and get approved by ATF and local police station. A full auto weapon itself is very expensive. I don't know what gun he used in the shooting. I can tell you the difference of a AR15 and M4(AR15 in full auto) is just a small piece of metal that called "sear". to purchase it legally, it will cost $16,000.

    I doubt he bought 30 guns in a short time. FBI usually will put you on hold if you buy too many weapons in a short period of time. That raises the flag.

    no one knows what happened to this guy yet. He's a multimillionaire. it's hard to guess what the motivation is at the moment. I don't buy those ISIS stuff at all.
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    Okay well let me rephrase.....he terrorized innocent people. Im using my computer dictionary. I'm not referring to the political stuff. Just the fact he created fear in a mass group using violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Okay well let me rephrase.....he terrorized innocent people. Im using my computer dictionary.
    I didn't know a terrorist has to have a political aims either.
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    technically they dont - it can be political, it can be theological or any established idea...or no reason thats logical, but the end is the harm and terror of civilians for those ends....we have a ton of home grown ones that pop up but we like to " bury" that title because.. well nobody wants to admit we have just as dangerous radical political/religious zealot groups in our own nation when using the term for those outside is a big trigger word for politics to use with the population... though political/political-theology affiliation is the most common, and who knows what will come up over the next few weeks/months that could tie him to something, or it could have been a true loan wolf break down
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    Well thats what you said in bold on post #20.

    Where did I say anything about his political affiliations?

    This motherfucker was indeed terrorizing innocent people. Now if a person who terrorizes people is a t*rrorist then if the shoe fits wear it.

    So if I go to wikipedia and look up the definition of t*rrorist it says:

    Terrorism, in its broadest sense, describes the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim

    Okay so maybe we can cross out political, religious, but that leaves ideological aim.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    The medical certificate and the firearms check are two different things. The medical has to be renewed periodically, and it could be he just did not do it.

    The firearms check is done when you buy a firearm, and does not concern itself with blood pressure, heart disease, etc.
    Well my line of thinking was the medical check would include a mental health check? If not then that shows a problem in the medical world as if the brain is not connected to the body or something. Or like even his vision (you might need to see to shoot/aim) or conditions that would cause tremors, etc. and make it unsafe for him to own/use powered explosive devices.

    Even so this beasts medical records aren't being released. Criminals on this level - He doesn't deserve any privacy.

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