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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    And upon further research from cnn

    ***I don't want to speculate but this asshole couldn't get a medical certification to fly but he can pass a fbi check to buy 30 guns and convert to autos????
    It is too early to ascribe credibility to that report. Most journalists have only the vaguest idea what a firearm is, may never have even seen a real one, and have no idea how they work. They are not a source of information


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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Well my line of thinking was the medical check would include a mental health check? If not then that shows a problem in the medical world as if the brain is not connected to the body or something. Or like even his vision (you might need to see to shoot/aim) or conditions that would cause tremors, etc. and make it unsafe for him to own/use powered explosive devices.

    Even so this beasts medical records aren't being released. Criminals on this level - He doesn't deserve any privacy.
    The BATF check includes mental, to the extent it is reported.

    The flight medical checks for vision, especially color blindness. Is there a reason to believe the instant offender had vision problems?

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    What is a high powered rifle? The radio station kept repeating this term.
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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    What is a high powered rifle? The radio station kept repeating this term.
    One that makes big campaign contributions.

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    Pokey should be brought in as a gun consultant for this


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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    Pokey should be brought in as a gun consultant for this
    Baer is pretty astute,, and i think she was commenting on the meaningless term "highpowered rifle".

    Highpower used to refer to certain courses of fire in competition, which at one time were mostly fired with bolt action .30-06's.
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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    I have a feeling that he just hate Vegas, not the people or any politics. News says he's a professional gambler...
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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    They need to adopt the United Kingdoms methods for screening. I'm just amazed no one is accepting that are scariest killers in the US are right from here...always among us..
    I guess that thought is too terrifying
    I don't think that it's terrifying so much as it just doesn't fit the anti Muslim agenda. I like to think that most people know better than to fall for that but they won't fall back when this sort of hatred shows up among their counterparts.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    It is too early to ascribe credibility to that report. Most journalists have only the vaguest idea what a firearm is, may never have even seen a real one, and have no idea how they work. They are not a source of information

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    And upon further research from cnn

    The suspect had a pilot's license but he was not up to date on the medical certification he would need in order to fly legally, a federal official said.
    • The FAA website shows that the last time he went to get the medical certification required for private pilots who want to fly was February 2008 so he could not have flown legally recently.
    • The FAA will not release any information regarding his mental health from his last certification in 2008 because it is protected under federal privacy rules.

    ......There is a loophole and hopefully they figure a way to close it before yet another mass shooting
    That post was Not necessarily about the gun used or what the media defines as a rifle but more along the lines of 1) how to decrease incidents like this and 2) how FAA is not releasing his mental health report (ironic - I think that if it were released it would reflect some type of mental illness) but the FBI cleared him? Like how is the FAA more stringent in their qualification process than the FBI (especially after they have let criminals fall through the cracks like that orlando shooter)? Like to me it seems FBI should use similar process for screening as the FAA
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    Its so weird how Country music fans are automatically lumped in with gun toting, right wing republicans? Recording a country song is on my bucket list! If I lived in Vegas there's a pretty good chance that I may have been at that concert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Well thats what you said in bold on post #20.

    Where did I say anything about his political affiliations?

    This motherfucker was indeed terrorizing innocent people. Now if a person who terrorizes people is a t*rrorist then if the shoe fits wear it.

    So if I go to wikipedia and look up the definition of t*rrorist it says:

    Terrorism, in its broadest sense, describes the use of intentionally indiscriminate violence as a means to create terror, or fear, to achieve a political, religious or ideological aim

    Okay so maybe we can cross out political, religious, but that leaves ideological aim.....

    If you go to Wikipedia for ANYTHING please know that this information is updated and modified at will. Anyone can manipulate the narrative to fit a certain agenda. The current wiki page for terrorism was last modified at 7:51 pm est. That could change within five minutes until someone decides to lock the page. This happens every time after any major event.

    I'm not disputing your take on what a terrorist is, I just want to point out why some may interpret it in an entirely different fashion if the info is constantly changing. Especially when things are taken literally.

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    True. Wikipedia is not the most reliable source due to it being crowdsourced editing and who knows the qualifications/education of the person/people editing it. Always vet sources, know who is writing, and where/how they get their information.

    It was just the first thing that popped up in search and I was in a hurry to find and answer/respond......I should step away from the keyboard lol.

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    So... I was at my aunt's house a little north of me all weekend, and my sister (who lives out of state) informed me the shooter used to live in the development across the main road from my aunt. It's true. I looked it up on public record. She didn't know him, but... weird how closely tied we always are to these things. One of my good friends had a flight booked on flight #93 out of Boston on 9/11, she changed it the day before. My older sister was in Boston the day of the marathon bombing, and walked through the area where the explosion occurred less than 40 mins. before it happened.

    May God have solace on the soul of the shooter and may the victims rest in peace. I wish we could evolve as a species a little more to love one another and finally realize the amount of or lack of melanin in our skin does not matter nor does our head wear when we pray. America is a fucked up place right now but it pales in comparison to some of things happening in other parts of the world. We're lucky to be fighting one another about the "President's" tweets and whether our pro athletes stand or kneel during the national anthem.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    People are saying a woman was saying, 45 minutes before, "you're all going to die"

    Could be a coincidence I guess
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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    to be fair.......when on the strip? you hear people say and yell all sorts of things for any reason and no reason....it's the vegas strip afterall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    People are saying a woman was saying, 45 minutes before, "you're all going to die"

    Could be a coincidence I guess
    I saw a young woman say this on air around 4am est? She said a woman sat in front of her then turned around and said that. I want to say it was on MSNBC? But no one else reported on it after that.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    I don't really believe in coincidences.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7978821.html

    According to the above link, the woman was "acting crazy" and playing with people's hair and then shouted that. I think she was on shrooms, acid, mdma or something and had a clairvoyant experience, which is common when on hallucinogenic drugs. It's too creepy that she said this 45 minutes before the shooting.

    Don't assume that just because people listen to country music that they wouldn't partake in psychedelic drugs. People assume way too much about a person just from their music preferences alone. It's completely stupid. Not all country music fans are rednecks who shoot squirrels in their backyard and have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup truck. Come on people. Anyway, I digress.

    I think this woman was seeing the future or had a bad feeling/ could feel bad vibes brewing.

    Also, over 500 people being shot is astounding. That is like a war. How did one man manage to shoot that many people?? Insane.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    New picture of the shooting.

    https://i.redd.it/03vee8upuipz.jpg

    Don't click it if you are not comfortable with bloody scene.
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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Heres some other pics of the victims.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las...ims/index.html


    .....Jordan McIldoon, a 25-year-old from Maple Ridge, British Columbia, died holding the hand of a stranger at the concert.
    Heather Gooze told CNN she somehow ended up next to McIldoon, and, even though she didn't know him, she held his hand during his final minutes. She felt a squeeze from his fingers, then felt his hand go loose.

    Gooze knew there was nothing more to do, she said, yet she stayed with McIldoon for hours. When his phone rang, she answered it and learned his name -- and said everything was not OK, she recalled.

    Then, Gooze relayed the news of his death by phone to his long-term girlfriend and his mother, she said, all the while staying by his side.
    "I didn't want Jordan to not have somebody with him," she told CNN through tears. "I didn't want him to just be a no-named body. I knew who he was, and now I had an obligation to make sure that everyone knew who he was.".......


    This is so sad im tearing up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Heres some other pics of the victims.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las...ims/index.html


    .....Jordan McIldoon, a 25-year-old from Maple Ridge, British Columbia, died holding the hand of a stranger at the concert.
    Heather Gooze told CNN she somehow ended up next to McIldoon, and, even though she didn't know him, she held his hand during his final minutes. She felt a squeeze from his fingers, then felt his hand go loose.

    Gooze knew there was nothing more to do, she said, yet she stayed with McIldoon for hours. When his phone rang, she answered it and learned his name -- and said everything was not OK, she recalled.

    Then, Gooze relayed the news of his death by phone to his long-term girlfriend and his mother, she said, all the while staying by his side.
    "I didn't want Jordan to not have somebody with him," she told CNN through tears. "I didn't want him to just be a no-named body. I knew who he was, and now I had an obligation to make sure that everyone knew who he was.".......


    This is so sad im tearing up.
    Oh my god that is too much. I've tried to block some of the news out today. I felt myself getting far too angry at some of the responses and realizing how cruel we are to one another. Its disappointing, but this is so beautiful and sad at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    I saw a young woman say this on air around 4am est? She said a woman sat in front of her then turned around and said that. I want to say it was on MSNBC? But no one else reported on it after that.
    Yes, I saw it on MSN too, they didn't give any details about who she was or why she said it..I guess they dragged her out of there tho


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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    His friends on the radio kept saying that he's rich, he's successful... what in the hell that he commited such a crime?!!>?
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    ^ They are probably in denial from the reality ...... that he was a wacko (a covert one disguised as some caring sane person)

    or they are in denial from the reality that evil doesn't have economic boundaries

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    My plane landed 30 minutes after the shooting started... And my flight had been delayed. We were right next to Mandalay Bay during the chaos. All the false news reports we were getting on that plane... It seemed like a coordinated attack up the strip. But no. One man, this many casualties and fatalities... It's insane. I moved here recently and I'm just in a fog right now, I don't know what to do with any of this.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    I went over all his weapons. He got pretty much most fatal weapon (that you can put in a suit case) that a civilian can get in USA. Our media tried very hard to push the talk point (illegal conversion of semi auto to full auto--bumpfire stock).
    Bumpfire stock, it's legal, or not banned yet. I have used it many times. It's a toy, it gives you the thrill of shooting a full auto rifle. but trust me, you can't hit anything with that in 100 yards. It's useless. The distance that he was shooting... impossible! I am guessing he used that when people were standing together,...Media also mentioned that he has installed the two cameras. one outside of his hotel room, so he could be able to see when SWAT team approached. He calculated every steps, evil evil person he was.
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