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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    I'm thinking he was blackmailed into what he did or he just snapped & wanted to go out with a bang....Jesus wept!!!!!! I bet he got mixed up with something bad & was either going through mid life crisis or just wanted to do something gross & ensure he wouldn't suffer for doing it. The typical suicide by cop type fits that set of issues.

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    Default Re: FIFTY dead and 200 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    I went over all his weapons. He got pretty much most fatal weapon (that you can put in a suit case) that a civilian can get in USA. Our media tried very hard to push the talk point (illegal conversion of semi auto to full auto--bumpfire stock).
    Bumpfire stock, it's legal, or not banned yet. I have used it many times. It's a toy, it gives you the thrill of shooting a full auto rifle. but trust me, you can't hit anything with that in 100 yards. It's useless. The distance that he was shooting... impossible! I am guessing he used that when people were standing together,...Media also mentioned that he has installed the two cameras. one outside of his hotel room, so he could be able to see when SWAT team approached. He calculated every steps, evil evil person he was.
    I keep asking "Why would someone do something like this?" I just don't understand. Like you say he was an evil, evil person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    I went over all his weapons. He got pretty much most fatal weapon (that you can put in a suit case) that a civilian can get in USA. Our media tried very hard to push the talk point (illegal conversion of semi auto to full auto--bumpfire stock).
    Bumpfire stock, it's legal, or not banned yet. I have used it many times. It's a toy, it gives you the thrill of shooting a full auto rifle. but trust me, you can't hit anything with that in 100 yards. It's useless. The distance that he was shooting... impossible! I am guessing he used that when people were standing together,...Media also mentioned that he has installed the two cameras. one outside of his hotel room, so he could be able to see when SWAT team approached. He calculated every steps, evil evil person he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    So he was shooting from the hotel window?

    What a coward!


    Ok so Im reading Fox news and it says this trick passed an FBI background check???? WTF kind of fru-fru basic ass background check is that? The mere fact that his damn father was on FBI most wanted list should have eliminated him right there because im sorry but the apple don't fall far from the tree.

    FBI needs to tighten up because they the same ones that investigated that crazy ass Orlando shooter twice, let him go, then dude goes on to shoot up the airport.
    All I'm gonna say is that they probably have a stricter check for us to get a Sherriff's Card than they do on these gun checks. You can keep a No Fly list but not a No Buy list for guns....smh.
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    I find it hard to believe that his GF knew nothing of his plans as she has been saying,

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/las...ion/index.html

    She almost certainly didn't participate in the evil slaughter, and she may have not known anything of his direct plans.

    But, I think she had to see signs. There may be no culpability, but it's just hard to believe Danley lived in a vacuum.

    For instance, she may have noticed that he was buying large amount of weapons and ammo, but she didn't want to bring it up to him.

    By the time he sent her off to Asia and then wired her money to buy a house for her and her family, she obviously knew something was up, but it was too late.

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    Default Re: 59 dead and 250 injured as gunman opens fire on on packed Vegas music festival

    He had been stockpiling guns since the 80's. He might have been planning to do this for many years. The dude was either a psychopath, or he had a psychotic break and just completely lost it. Just because he was rich doesn't mean anything. Rich people can just as easily lose their shit as anyone else.

    Or he might have just been suicidal and wanted to take people down with him. Obviously had anger problems too. You don't do that unless you have suppressed emotions that manifest as explosive anger. This is why mass shootings are always carried out by men- suppressed emotions and never expressing it or talking it out to anyone until they have a psychotic break. It's scary shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    I keep asking "Why would someone do something like this?" I just don't understand. Like you say he was an evil, evil person.
    Ususally, i mean usually you can guess someone's motivation. But this time...he was shooting large group of innorcent strangers. It's hard to tell, what religion, race, sex,nationality of those victims are. Yes, the country music lovers are more likely to be Trump voters. I don't see any possibility a gambler with guns will be a crazy liberal. Not that any liberals will commit such a crime either. He's also rich and is not connected with isis. So his motivation is completely unknown... at least to me.
    He wired $100k oversea to his gf's country and sent his gf back home, claimed the flight ticket was cheap... he bought all the fatal weapons. Booked two hotel rooms next to each other for serval days. put two tripods on two different angles... put two different cameras to monitor the environment. It's almost too good to be an one-man job. Honestly, some gun nuts that I know, no one can pull this off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Truth is a concept totally alien to the Antis.
    You are probably right. If they want to talk about guns, at least learn some basics. The key of shooting is aiming and recoil control. Bumpfire stock, is using recoil forece to pull the trigger for you. That means you don't have any control of the recoil, which makes it impossible to aim for the following shots. Not to mention he's shooting from the 32nd- floor to the ground, the point of the aim was very different... I don't believe he used bumpfire stock for the killing considering he calculated all the other steps. and the bumpfire on a tripold??? that's just stupid, stupid.

    I don't like the idea of a ban per se... by all means... ban the bumpfire stock, I have no use of it. It's that useless
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    I don't know anything about shooting, but my think is you really don't aim at a group of 22,000 people, just shoot in their direction and you will hit someone.

    I don't know what the answer is, ban whatever you want, it won't make a difference. If someone wants something bad enough they will get it. Destroy every gun in the world and just wait for the person that goes crazy with a crossbow.
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    Like my post above, I hope they can find out why he did this.
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    I saw a picture of one of the "tripods" they have been talking about. I was trying to imagine how an AR type could be mounted on a tripod. The rifle in the picture had a scope, and was on a bipod. These people are liars, or so stupid they can not count to three.

    I can not imagine trying to aim a rifle when the barreled action is supposedly reciprocating at 600 rounds per minute inside the stock.

    Here it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    I saw a picture of one of the tripods they have been talking about. I was trying to imagine how an AR type could be mounted on a tripod. The rifle in the picture had a scope, and was on a bipod. These people are liars, or so stupid they can not count to three.
    It took them three days to count how many guns he actually had in that room...so...
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    It must be tough when you cant count past two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baer45 View Post
    I went over all his weapons. He got pretty much most fatal weapon (that you can put in a suit case) that a civilian can get in USA. Our media tried very hard to push the talk point (illegal conversion of semi auto to full auto--bumpfire stock).
    Bumpfire stock, it's legal, or not banned yet. I have used it many times. It's a toy, it gives you the thrill of shooting a full auto rifle. but trust me, you can't hit anything with that in 100 yards. It's useless. The distance that he was shooting... impossible! I am guessing he used that when people were standing together,...Media also mentioned that he has installed the two cameras. one outside of his hotel room, so he could be able to see when SWAT team approached. He calculated every steps, evil evil person he was.
    He was firing into a crowd of approximately 20,000 people, so he didn't need to be very accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 423texas View Post
    I find it hard to believe that his GF knew nothing of his plans as she has been saying,

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/04/us/las...ion/index.html

    She almost certainly didn't participate in the evil slaughter, and she may have not known anything of his direct plans.

    But, I think she had to see signs. There may be no culpability, but it's just hard to believe Danley lived in a vacuum.

    For instance, she may have noticed that he was buying large amount of weapons and ammo, but she didn't want to bring it up to him.

    By the time he sent her off to Asia and then wired her money to buy a house for her and her family, she obviously knew something was up, but it was too late.
    I thought she might know something too. But then again maybe she doesnt - according to the Starbucks they frequented, he would argue with her in public and it seemed to me like he had her in check. Like if he told her to do something she didn't question it. Because I sure was like how the hell he send her off on a flight and she doesnt ask any questions? But maybe he was very dominating in their relationship.

    Also most men that halfway care about their girlfriends or wives keep them in the dark/don't tell them a damn thing about their criminal activity because in case shit hits the fan, their girlfriends/wives won't be held responsible or considered accessory to their crimes.

    If you think about it, this 'man' offs himself, the victims looking for someone to hold accountable and the next person is the girlfriend. But if shes out of the picture when this happens its like she has nothing to do with this incident.

    If his girlfriend really doesn't know anything then she is safe from people going after her for a crime he committed.
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    Did Las Vegas gunman have help? Sheriff believes amount of planning, firearms and explosives point to an accomplice as police reveal shooter 'had an escape plan' but they still can't establish a motive

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ce-reveal.html
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    Did Las Vegas gunman have help? Sheriff believes amount of planning, firearms and explosives point to an accomplice as police reveal shooter 'had an escape plan' but they still can't establish a motive

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ce-reveal.html
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    This man risked his own life, saving 30 ppl that day.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...t-in-his-neck/

    The problem with this country is that ppl with mental health problems can buy guns.
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    ^^^I totally agree.

    Deranged Psychos and people not in their right state of mind - don't need rights/easy access to guns. If they want to protect themselves they can use some mace and martial arts or something else. Also add reckless people who leave loaded guns out for their kids to inadvertently murk themselves (apparently only 18 states have laws for this problem).

    I think the problem though is defining mental health problems. For example, Anti-depressants and anti-anxiety are highly prescribed medications. Many people have experienced one or the other or both at some point. Definitely suicidal/homicidal people should not have access.

    And another problem is also the category of people who just "snap" - they have no known history of severe mental issues or criminal records. Like this dude. Although he had allegedly been prescribed/taking xanax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyanka View Post
    The problem with this country is that ppl with mental health problems can buy guns.
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    The problem with this country is people with mental health problems can walk around loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    The problem with this country is people with mental health problems can walk around loose.
    Yes. Our mental health system is a mess and that needs to be a focus here too.


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    As far as I know, the shooter had never been diagnosed with mental illness before this happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    As far as I know, the shooter had never been diagnosed with mental illness before this happened.
    And no criminal record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    Yes. Our mental health system is a mess and that needs to be a focus here too.

    Old generations like to mention in 1970s, the government decided to close all psychiatric institutions. So on that day, they sent all the patients out of the door. on your way, go go go. Poor sick people, ended up homeless and died. That's the ugly truth about our society.
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