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    Dizzy best macbook for camming?

    I'm looking to buy a macbook so I can travel and cam. I was thinking of getting a macbook pro(the base model), or the regular lightweight macbook, both are $1299. The macbook pro is supposedly the fastest, but the regular macbook is more lightweight. Then there is the Macbook air, which is the least expensive, but is it worth buying for camming? What are your experiences using a macbook for camming?

    What webcam do you use with a mac?

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    I currently use a macbook pro and I love it. I'm used to having gaming pcs but I grew up on Macs so I love both. Graphics are beautiful and speed is great. It will definitely last you many years without needing to upgrade it much, if at all. It is perfect for camming imo and I've never had any issues while performing.
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    It's a great webcam and I always get compliments on how crisp my streaming quality is. Happy shopping!
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    I use a Macbook Pro from 2014 to cam on Streamate, and it works perfectly. I am upgrading to a desktop PC for camming though because I want to edit video clips faster and I'm tired of having so much of my hard drive filled with my camming stuff.

    Have you looked at Windows laptops too? I would say if you only plan to use the laptop/macbook for camming and nothing else, it might be better to just get a regular laptop for the price. However, if you really prefer MacOS or need a macbook for other reasons, get one

    **EDIT** Also make sure that the current 2017 macbook pros have the necessary peripherals you need for camming! Make sure it has enough USB ports, maybe an ethernet port (or thunderbolt port + adapter) if WiFi is bad, HDMI port if you need, etc. Mine has all of those, but I don't know what the new macbooks offer.

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    I love my MacBook Pro (2016 model)-- 15 in. 2.6GHz i7. Quiet and light, plus keeps up with the SM Broadcaster--I have never had trouble. Granted, I don't do video clips, just straight camming with it.

    The 13-in MacBook Pro is much less bulky and I almost got that one, so I understand why the 13 inch is appealing for travel. I would say MacBook Pro over the Air or MacBook simply based on speed. My previous MacBook Pro lasted 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innocentindian View Post
    I use a Macbook Pro from 2014 to cam on Streamate, and it works perfectly. I am upgrading to a desktop PC for camming though because I want to edit video clips faster and I'm tired of having so much of my hard drive filled with my camming stuff.

    Have you looked at Windows laptops too? I would say if you only plan to use the laptop/macbook for camming and nothing else, it might be better to just get a regular laptop for the price. However, if you really prefer MacOS or need a macbook for other reasons, get one

    **EDIT** Also make sure that the current 2017 macbook pros have the necessary peripherals you need for camming! Make sure it has enough USB ports, maybe an ethernet port (or thunderbolt port + adapter) if WiFi is bad, HDMI port if you need, etc. Mine has all of those, but I don't know what the new macbooks offer.
    Ive always had windows I’m tired of them,they get viruses easily and are constantly doing long tedious updates.

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    I bought my macbook pro in 2013 and I use a logitech cam and it works just fine. I thought the only difference between the pro and the air was the built in disc drive on the pro but I could be wrong. It's cool because you don't need anything special to split cam as macs just do it automatically when you open up a new site. I haven't been able to use adultwork's camsite because it only works on windows I think.

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    I've used a 2014 Mac book air, 2015 Mac book air, and 2015 Mac book pro... all i5 processors..... awesome laptops.... hate using windows now.

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    I use a MacBook Pro 2015,( Retina, 15 inch) 2.5 GHZ Intel Core i7. It works really great for camming. I also use a 930 Logitech cam. I cam primarily on SM and use the Broadcaster with Chrome. I rarely have issues with this set up, unless it is a day when most models including myself are having tech issues on SM. I do tend to avoid most of the glitches thou. I downloaded the app Logitech Camera Settings and I adjust my settings for the cam and I also adjust the settings on the SM Broadcaster too. Just make sure you uncheck the auto focus box in your Logitech Camera Settings App.

    I am just getting into clip making right now.

    Would you ladies who use a Mac share some of your knowledge for creating clips on a Mac? I am fairly new at it, so any good tips would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizzyMe View Post
    I use a MacBook Pro 2015,( Retina, 15 inch) 2.5 GHZ Intel Core i7. It works really great for camming. I also use a 930 Logitech cam. I cam primarily on SM and use the Broadcaster with Chrome. I rarely have issues with this set up, unless it is a day when most models including myself are having tech issues on SM. I do tend to avoid most of the glitches thou. I downloaded the app Logitech Camera Settings and I adjust my settings for the cam and I also adjust the settings on the SM Broadcaster too. Just make sure you uncheck the auto focus box in your Logitech Camera Settings App.

    I am just getting into clip making right now.

    Would you ladies who use a Mac share some of your knowledge for creating clips on a Mac? I am fairly new at it, so any good tips would be appreciated.
    What I do is I record everything on photobooth (different videos for different actions/angles etc.) or I use my phone if it's something I can't record on my laptop. I then take all my clips and slap them into iMovie. Definitely look into some iMovie tutorials, but for the most part it's pretty straight forward and you don't need all the fancy effects that come with the application. It's basically just 1) upload your clips to the application and 2) drag and drop what clips/parts of clips you want, in the order that you want them. I think the fanciest I've gotten was slowing a clip down just a touch to make a time requirement for a video (I never slow anything down beyond maybe 85% of the original clip speed because then it starts to look obviously slow motion and the audio gets slowed down).

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    Following this! I'm using a 2012 macbook pro I bought for school once upon a time and want to upgrade sometime after xmas this year I think. Still gets the job done but it has it's laggy moments and i'm a SM girl so i like da good tech specs.

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    Default CPU?

    Lately when streaming through the SM Broadcast I notice my CPU shoots from 40% before going live, and then when I go live it shoots up to 70%, and then when I get offered a show or go into one almost always goes to 98% and sometimes it even is at 100% during my shows. I have a macbook pro laptop 2012 with 8gb of ram and 2.5 GHz. Can anyone help me and does anyone know if CPU resally affects your $$ and traffic, if CPU does matter, what does it do? Like what does havig higher CPU and lower internet speed do vs. Having good internet and CPU? Does it affect anything? Thank you.

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    When your computer runs at those percentages it means its overheating and working too hard. It will cause your hardware as well as certain programs to run slower too. Its not a good thing at all. Also 2.5 megahertz isnt thay fast and using the SMBroadcast appears to be too much for your computer to handle. Try a different encoder. As long as you can stream at 1280x720 at 30 fps and and fast upload speeds that can register at around 1500 bitrate you will have good placement. Some people seem to think that the broadcaster is the only way to make money. Its not. You just need to find the encoder that works best for you. One other thing to think about is this, it may be time to get your laptop cleaned. Packed in dirt can clog it up causing it to run hot.

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    thank you for your quick reqponse, does this result in shorter shows / people getting kicked out, and less traffic or does that have nothing to do with it ? Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by macgirlox View Post
    thank you for your quick reqponse, does this result in shorter shows / people getting kicked out, and less traffic or does that have nothing to do with it ? Thank you
    It definitely could have an impact on the show quality and if they're willing to stay connected. Many customers wont bother complaining. They'll just go on to the next person until they find a smooth stream. But on the other hand this Streamate we're talking about...things fall apart on that site even when you got it together.

    Before you can determine if its them or you, you'll have to try those other options etc. Try a different encoder first. Get your laptop cleaned. I prefer to pay someone else to do it. Make sure your upload speed is at leadt 3mbps (megabits per second) it measures bandwith and the speed that data is transmitted. If you cant do all of those things try streaming at a lower resolution instead of 1280x720 at 1500 bit rate go down until the cpu isnt as high. But your placement will drop. You gotta do what you gotta do.

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    I moved her CPU questions to this board because I think she'd get better feedback from those who use macs to stream.

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    I have the early 2013 MBP, 15" retina display with i7 and 8GB RAM, 2.4GHz. I love it. I also love being able to take my laptop to any authorized apple to get warranty work done. This is insanely important when travel camming as Apple will only take a couple days to fix it. with a PC laptop, you might have to ship it somewhere for them to do warranty work and shipping a lone can be expensive. Most companies will only cover shipping if you're inside the US. One of my friends, it took 6 weeks for HP to fix her laptop under warranty. I will always stick with a MBP when it comes to my travel camming laptop. for a desktop at home, PC all the way.

    download the app "memory optimizer pro." it'll help with the available memory while you stream

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    I would buy a used 2015 souped-up Macbook Pro Retina 15" for about $1500 on Craigslist. Or $1800-2000 from a verified refurbished dealer. It will have better specs than buying a new base model. You want to get the most RAM and highest processor speed you can afford, and then the most storage space after that. I suggest 16GB RAM, a 2.5 GHz (or higher) Quad-Core Intel i7 chip, 500GB SSD, and a dedicated Nvidia or AMD Radeon Graphics card. Don't get a Macbook or Macbook Air, they're not fast enough. They won't be able to handle intensive CPU use. Streamate is really draining, so is split-camming and video editing.

    I've bought many laptops off Craigslist, I know it can be anxiety-inducing (what if you buy a lemon?!) but there are ways to inspect your hardware and see if the seller is being straight with you. Let me know if you want a checklist for buying used.

    Also really important: the fastest internet you can afford! I pay Comcast $60/mo for 150 Mbps down and 12 Mbps up. I also use an ARRIS Motorola Surfboard SB6183 modem and a NETGEAR Nighthawk R700 AC1900 router, which bumps my speeds a bit too. Wired connections are always faster than wi-fi, and especially if your speed is slow, you're better off with a long ethernet cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMoore View Post
    I've used a 2014 Mac book air, 2015 Mac book air, and 2015 Mac book pro... all i5 processors..... awesome laptops.... hate using windows now.
    Still need to buy a new computer mine is now becoming unusable and wayyy to slow. I’m going to the apple store soon to look at these again, do you think I would be ok with a MacBook Air if I upgraded to an i7 processor? Or is it really better to just get the pro? I’m not crazy about the flat keyboard on the pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    It definitely could have an impact on the show quality and if they're willing to stay connected. Many customers wont bother complaining. They'll just go on to the next person until they find a smooth stream. But on the other hand this Streamate we're talking about...things fall apart on that site even when you got it together.

    Before you can determine if its them or you, you'll have to try those other options etc. Try a different encoder first. Get your laptop cleaned. I prefer to pay someone else to do it. Make sure your upload speed is at leadt 3mbps (megabits per second) it measures bandwith and the speed that data is transmitted. If you cant do all of those things try streaming at a lower resolution instead of 1280x720 at 1500 bit rate go down until the cpu isnt as high. But your placement will drop. You gotta do what you gotta do.
    Placement won't drop if you stream in a slightly lower res. I stream in 1024576 and I still have top placement. A horny guy isn't going to see the difference between 576 and 720 Never had any complaints, and traffic is higher because I am not lagging any more.

    Streaming in a slightly lower res can even make for less glitches and as a result a smoother stream. If people on here are glitching I recommend trying it out.

    We sometimes forget that a lot of the ' glitches' are in fact on the customer side. We all have good equipment that can handle a HD stream.Our average customer is watching on a laptop or phone from a few years ago, and they dont have business speed internet. Ofcourse they are going to experience lagging and pixelating. 576 is also easier to load for them.

    I cam on a Macbook by the way. I love it. Mac is way easier to handle and navigate and I just love love love my computer. I have an i7 and those are indeed expensive but it is worth it if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuroraJade View Post
    Placement won't drop if you stream in a slightly lower res. I stream in 1024576 and I still have top placement. A horny guy isn't going to see the difference between 576 and 720 Never had any complaints, and traffic is higher because I am not lagging any more.

    Streaming in a slightly lower res can even make for less glitches and as a result a smoother stream. If people on here are glitching I recommend trying it out.

    We sometimes forget that a lot of the ' glitches' are in fact on the customer side. We all have good equipment that can handle a HD stream.Our average customer is watching on a laptop or phone from a few years ago, and they dont have business speed internet. Ofcourse they are going to experience lagging and pixelating. 576 is also easier to load for them.

    I cam on a Macbook by the way. I love it. Mac is way easier to handle and navigate and I just love love love my computer. I have an i7 and those are indeed expensive but it is worth it if you ask me.
    Do you use the regular MacBook or the MacBook Pro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasmine22 View Post
    Do you use the regular MacBook or the MacBook Pro?
    Macbook Pro 15 inch. Its the only one with an i7. Got the most expensive one and very happy with it.

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    Honest question: Does it HAVE to be a Macbook?

    I ask because, with that kind of money, you can buy a very powerful gaming laptop that you can also use for camming and serious video editing, like an Alienware 13" laptop.

    Consider that the MacBook and the MacBook air have VERY weak processors tha just won't cut it for something as demanding as live streaming, even when using an encoder like OBS, especially because in macOS you can't use hardware acceleration tricks ike Intel's QuickSync. You HAVE to use Windows 10 for such features.

    Also, do you really wanna live the dongle life?

    If I were you, I would get the Lenovo Y720, which is an amazing laptop and has great service from Lenovo, and yes, they're just as good as Apple when it comes to warranties and servicing. This thing has one of the best Intel core i7 processors right now as well as 16GB of RAM. You can't do better at this price!

    Newegg link: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-068-_-Product

    You can also get it from Lenovo's official website if you wanna buy things like an extended warranty and such.

    In camming we strongly avoid Apple computers because they are hard to upgrade (Many times we need to add more RAM, more storage, etc, and Macbooks just can't allow that anymore because of the apple tax), usually hard to work with and not customizable.

    IMO, save yourself the headaches and get the Lenovo Y720

    As for the webcam, you can't go wrong with the Logitech C922

    https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-C922...=logitech+c922
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    I am sorry but this is not true at all.

    Alienware is just as overpriced as a Macbook. You also pay for the brand. But In general, people who buy a Mac dont buy it because of the specs. They do so because it syncs flawless with your iPhone and iCloud accounts, is super user friendly, has a good design, good interface. I paid for that and I am very happy with it. I dont have PC problems. Everything works flawless, every day.

    To cam you dont need hardware upgrades and acceleration tricks. Not needed. I am happy its not needed. Windows is a huge hassle.

    A Macbook Pro is a great machine and totally worth the price. I am happy with it every day. I can recommend it to everybody. Never have I used a dongle, this is a bullshit argument used by Apple haters. It 2017, you really want to use 98434834 cables? I dont. I plug in my cam and thats enough. I recommend everybody to save up for a good MacBook Pro instead of buying a piece of crap Lenovo or Alienware.

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    AuroraJade its okay to disagree but you don't have to be so rude about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuroraJade View Post
    I am sorry but this is not true at all.

    Alienware is just as overpriced as a Macbook. You also pay for the brand. But In general, people who buy a Mac dont buy it because of the specs. They do so because it syncs flawless with your iPhone and iCloud accounts, is super user friendly, has a good design, good interface. I paid for that and I am very happy with it. I dont have PC problems. Everything works flawless, every day.

    To cam you dont need hardware upgrades and acceleration tricks. Not needed. I am happy its not needed. Windows is a huge hassle.

    A Macbook Pro is a great machine and totally worth the price. I am happy with it every day. I can recommend it to everybody. Never have I used a dongle, this is a bullshit argument used by Apple haters. It 2017, you really want to use 98434834 cables? I dont. I plug in my cam and thats enough. I recommend everybody to save up for a good MacBook Pro instead of buying a piece of crap Lenovo or Alienware.
    We're split among our staff about the Mac vs. not Mac thing. I just know about 30% of our support calls are for people with Macs that just can't get things to work with software and websites designed for...everything else but a Mac. When we get someone saying "I can't do this thing X..." the first two questions are, "Are you on wifi?" and "Are you using a Mac?" You may not have "PC Problems" using a Mac, but you also don't have any option for "PC Solutions" either when trying to troubleshoot or work around various issues. With a Mac, you're pretty much stuck waiting until someone creates the "Mac Solution" for your compatibility problems.

    As far as bang for your buck, nothing will ever beat a home built PC built with discount part "combo packs". I'm willing to bet 90% of the people here haven't cammed from outside easy cable distance from their router, and half have probably never cammed outside a single room in their house...you're paying a premium for mobility and sacrificing a lot of streaming quality power by going with a laptop at all.

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