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    So sometimes when i approach customers and they say no before i even begin my pitch but yesterday a guy said no and he has a wife and blah blah and then his friend was like "oh shes your type!" so i sat in his lap anyway and the ended up spending a bunch of money on me. Other girls have told me to be more aggressive to but idk how because if someone says no before i even get to talk to them i dont even wanna try anymore. Also i noticed that if a top earner finishes talking to a guy they're like ohh shes so agressive or something like that.

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    Default Re: how to be more agressive?

    I dont think its necessarily about being "aggressive" (though some dudes like that sort of thing) but more along the lines of being more confident, taking initiative, spotting opportunities, being persistent, etc.

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    Default Re: how to be more agressive?

    I would say be confident and persistent is what a lot of people call “aggressive”.

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    What do u mean persistent? I don't want to be forcing myself on dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0lie View Post
    What do u mean persistent? I don't want to be forcing myself on dudes.
    You have to, though. That's how you make money. There are a lot of aspects of dancing that require you to put your ego aside and step out of your comfort zone. You have to be approaching them first and getting them excited from the minute you do. Your first "no" isn't necessarily a "no", you put pressure on them and counter their excuses. Maybe later? Put your boobs in his face and tell him you don't take "maybe" for an answer. He doesn't get dances? That's cool, tell him a lot of guys prefer to tip you for your time instead. He's already had dances tonight? They weren't from you, so they don't count. He's just here for a drink? He's in The Land of Overpriced Drinks, so tell him he might as well get a boner to go with his beer. The guys who are weak-minded will give in and go with you because you're pushing them.
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    ^^yes. You are every man in there's dream girl. You really need to believe that to be able to hustle the whole room. They're lucky you came over to say hi, and you're going to show them a good time. Everything you do needs to point to the dance which is the whole reason they came to see the dancers! It's not Aggressive it's just doing the job of being a good stripper! Some guys might be intimidated and call that aggressive but that doesn't mean they're not opening their wallets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0lie View Post
    What do u mean persistent? I don't want to be forcing myself on dudes.
    You're not "forcing" yourself on dudes if you listen to them. They consent to listening to dancer sales pitch the moment they step their pinky toe over the threshold of the club entrance. You are negotiating. Like what trustfund suggested they may say no to a dance/vip/time/etc initially followed by some reason. Use that reason to wait a bit then counter offer. And some guys are just not going to buy from you nor spend money with you no matter how good you look or how good your sales pitch is - and thats okay because someone else will.

    Get comfortable hearing "no" because eventually (if you persist - doesn't even have to be with the same dude it could be another dude) you will hear a Yes.

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    Read this section as tho ur life depended on it.

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    Not necessarily AGGRESIVE. But persistant like someone said earlier in the thread. Know what your goal is, know what you need to do to reach it. Dont waste time with time wasters. AT ALL. Be bitchy but sexy
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    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    You have to, though. That's how you make money. There are a lot of aspects of dancing that require you to put your ego aside and step out of your comfort zone. You have to be approaching them first and getting them excited from the minute you do. Your first "no" isn't necessarily a "no", you put pressure on them and counter their excuses. Maybe later? Put your boobs in his face and tell him you don't take "maybe" for an answer. He doesn't get dances? That's cool, tell him a lot of guys prefer to tip you for your time instead. He's already had dances tonight? They weren't from you, so they don't count. He's just here for a drink? He's in The Land of Overpriced Drinks, so tell him he might as well get a boner to go with his beer. The guys who are weak-minded will give in and go with you because you're pushing them.

    Yesss! I like this,every “excuse” they give out...match his with something! Saving this :-)

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    NO man has a problem with being aggressive, pestering you or just being a pest.

    NONE of them have a problem asking us for everything for FrEE or cheap whether or not it is allowed there or legal.

    Treat men like they do us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    You have to, though. That's how you make money. There are a lot of aspects of dancing that require you to put your ego aside and step out of your comfort zone. You have to be approaching them first and getting them excited from the minute you do. Your first "no" isn't necessarily a "no", you put pressure on them and counter their excuses. Maybe later? Put your boobs in his face and tell him you don't take "maybe" for an answer. He doesn't get dances? That's cool, tell him a lot of guys prefer to tip you for your time instead. He's already had dances tonight? They weren't from you, so they don't count. He's just here for a drink? He's in The Land of Overpriced Drinks, so tell him he might as well get a boner to go with his beer. The guys who are weak-minded will give in and go with you because you're pushing them.
    Oh my gosh I love this!! We should start a thread just on ideas of responses to different things because this is amazeballs

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    In sales they say don't give up until you get 10 No's.

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    Im a New dancer too and sometimes when I approach guys they just say "I'm good" like what do I say after that? He didn't give a reason

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    Try camming for a couple of months, it will get your agressive skillset up in no time

    I think it will be the same for dancing as for camming; you will get there (agressive sales techniques) naturally and quick esp when you work multiple days a week. It is sink or swim and those guys can be so fcked up that you will develop that dominant side of you to work them instead of letting them work you

    Give it some time, it will be there and you will feel it when it is... and you will love it (at least I do!)

    Its all in the attitude. Do what you want to do, watch your posture, your voice, make yourself feel that you are in control and they will feel it too. Be daring and surprise them, be flirtatious and dont ever back out; if you do move on to the next prey (they should know they are not your only interest after all, they are loosing out if they wont take you, bec you know you are worth it). Make them want you by being in power
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    Quote Originally Posted by jen_ten View Post
    Im a New dancer too and sometimes when I approach guys they just say "I'm good" like what do I say after that? He didn't give a reason
    What, like you walk up and say "how's it going" and they respond with "i'm good" as in "go away, I don't want dances"?
    They're just being defensive and/or assholes in that case. I like to tell them they're being rude or "I didn't ask if you wanted anything, chill out" and they usually look sheepish.

    Totally agree that you will get aggressive naturally if you work more. All the closing lines, all the bullshit excuses you hear, all the scenarios that play out, will happen so much that you will learn to automatically say exactly what you should in each case. Practice makes perfect. You will also get mildly tired of hearing the bullshit, so you'll naturally move on from time wasters quicker and hustle the ones with money harder.

    Other observation: most of the girls in my club that are aggressive moneymakers work at LEAST 3 days, generally 4-5. I do 3-4 days, and I turn into a hustling machine and it's much easier to flip back into Selina from Not Selina. It seems contrary to what people write on here about burning out from too much work; but I burn out when I work too LITTLE, cause then I'm probably making less due to the lack of shifts, less per shift due to lack of aggression AND I'm tolerating more nonsense than I normally would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    You have to, though. That's how you make money. There are a lot of aspects of dancing that require you to put your ego aside and step out of your comfort zone. You have to be approaching them first and getting them excited from the minute you do. Your first "no" isn't necessarily a "no", you put pressure on them and counter their excuses. Maybe later? Put your boobs in his face and tell him you don't take "maybe" for an answer. He doesn't get dances? That's cool, tell him a lot of guys prefer to tip you for your time instead. He's already had dances tonight? They weren't from you, so they don't count. He's just here for a drink? He's in The Land of Overpriced Drinks, so tell him he might as well get a boner to go with his beer. The guys who are weak-minded will give in and go with you because you're pushing them.
    You need to counteract every negative response with a positive. Just last night my one customer already spent 50 on me but I asked him for just one more, just the two of us and I got him to spend another 50. Sometimes they just need a little push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post

    Other observation: most of the girls in my club that are aggressive moneymakers work at LEAST 3 days, generally 4-5. I do 3-4 days, and I turn into a hustling machine and it's much easier to flip back into Selina from Not Selina. It seems contrary to what people write on here about burning out from too much work; but I burn out when I work too LITTLE, cause then I'm probably making less due to the lack of shifts, less per shift due to lack of aggression AND I'm tolerating more nonsense than I normally would.
    This. When you're used to the club's clientèle and it's rhythm you see the money, and you can easily guess the right play to make and make it. This is why house girls who are career strippers will be taking a guy into a room and new girls or girls who are new to a club will be like, I didn't see that guy come in.

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    I hate myself when I'm too tired to be defensive to behiavor I normally won't tolerate.

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    It also helps to ask politely or to be guided gracefully, then they won't see you as being negatively aggressive but, persuasive.

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