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    Over the last year, and most recently in Dublin last week, I've been given demos of augmented reality technology that can superimpose a model on a room setting where the viewer, using a 3D headset smaller than oculus but larger than glasses, can see a model, who is remote, apparently interact with the viewer's space. I didn't get the exact technology specs, but the model was apparently also able to navigate objects within the viewer's space, such as walking around a chair, etc.

    The fidelity wasn't great, but was limited more by the rapidly improving headset acuity than any other factor.

    It seems that with a headset, which will become more common and eventually evolve, the possibility exists to actually have a cam model appear to be "in the room". Has anyone experimented with this tech? Am I being presented with a rosy forecast or is this the current state of viability for augmented reality?

    I'm an amateur, of course, but I can immediately think of 1000 business uses and transformative disruptions made possible by this tech. For camming you could be virtually in the space of the viewer, and exclusive for a premium.

    I'd love to know what you think, if anyone wants to weigh in.
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    Default Re: Dear Cam People - a new technology question

    It will be a long time off, but possible. It would require the cam site to support that kind of technology, as well as the girl to purchase the equipment necessary to do it (including probably a whole new computer to handle the processing. Just streaming in HD on streamate is taxing for most). It's a huge investment, and the site won't pay for it.

    Looks like Cam4 is the only major site that supports VR right now, but there are only a few girls who use it - https://www.cam4.com/vr-porn
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    ^^ I watched their promos, it looks like they're committed but I agree with you one company does not a trend make. I need to get more data on the camera set up and the required processing power - it all seems a bit clunky now. It already appears, though, that users are excited by the "closeness" of the model. I'm speculating that this is a differentiator in the near future, maybe after the initial bugs are shaken out.

    Mainstream is presenting it as a conferencing tool but I bet adult makes it work first.
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    There are so many VR companies popping up in the past year but they all seem to be hitting a wall when it comes to launching? I think its because not enough people have the required systems that can handle this sort of tech. Are you thinking about becoming an investor? If you want more insight on what's out there already take a look at Terpon VR Webcams They have partnerships with Skyprivate and Modelcentro but I'm not seeing or hearing what people have to say about the quality or even the outright price? If it's reasonable I would definitely purchase one. But they have it set up where models can rent the cam.



    Terpon looks like it's an entry level solution and what you saw in Dublin could be more advanced but not as connected as some of the others already out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    ^^ I watched their promos, it looks like they're committed but I agree with you one company does not a trend make. I need to get more data on the camera set up and the required processing power - it all seems a bit clunky now. It already appears, though, that users are excited by the "closeness" of the model. I'm speculating that this is a differentiator in the near future, maybe after the initial bugs are shaken out.

    Mainstream is presenting it as a conferencing tool but I bet adult makes it work first.
    To add to this last part on manstream vs adult, I really wish that these tech companies would get over themselves and start contracting cammers to push their products. I've written so many tech articles and I and know that reps from these companies are aware of the impact that camming has on their sales. Logitech,Razer, elgato all know that it's not just gamers and youtubers using their products but they will not release statements to people in adult. I've tried and it's always a no. I'm gonna start trying from a mainstream angle but just imagine all of that lost potential when they don't take feedback from adult performers.

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    I talked to a few gamer about it, they laughed at porn/camming VR.

    I've looked at Cam4 & the few vr rooms on it & wasn't impressed. It was boring. It is show business, entertainment. And VR in it's current state isn't entertaining or engaging enough for guys to all rush out & get it. Look how long it took mobile to catch on, it took YEARS and now about half my traffic is mobile. There was a rush in the beginning for everyone to do mobile, but took a while for everyone to have a phone that could browse the web like it does now. Took about ten years.


    Then there is the supply & demand question which is every market. How many fans are asking for VR content or cam feeds? Unless the PAYING customers are asking about it then it isn't worth the investment for a few years to come. Editing VR content is a whole other thing & most so-called VR content just looks like a fish eye lens.

    Unless you have about 35% of your paying customers making inquiries I wouldn't bother with the expenses of it.

    Are mainstream movies filming in VR, what about TV? How many of your favorite shows are available in VR? When that starts to be a thing, then I will start looking into buying the equipment & computer to edit it on.

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    ^^good points all. We may be watching the "early adopter" clunky, low functionality phase. Like you, though, I am seeing it everywhere meaning it is in the tech zeitgeist.
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    A timely article in the NYTimes:



    virtual reality gets naughty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    A timely article in the NYTimes:



    virtual reality gets naughty
    Those robots are scary. Also Camsoda does a really good job of getting their name out there. They pop up in just about every article I read on camming these days.

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    ^^isnt that the truth - They’ve made themselves one of “the ones”
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    Through out the last century all kinds of technology has been created some pans out but lots of it doesn't.

    I'm old but I remember when VCRs were all the rage but there was Beta machines too. VCRs won out.

    5 years ago 3D porn was supposed to be all the rage, well it didn't.

    Men have a short attention span the WHOLE ROOM has zero interest to them. What do we read while on cam? OPEN TITS BB
    SHOW ASS
    PUSSY
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    NONE of them are asking to see the far left corner of your room or what's behind the camera.

    Men are simple. They do NOT complicate the jerking off process. Pair of tits, cute feet or sexy ass is all they need.

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    Next take into how cheap most men are? They want everything for free. Think they are going to spend lots of money on equipment just to jerk off?

    That article is nothing but a PR puff piece.

    As for the Porn Stars on Cam Soda well, I know a few of them. They are paid $1000 an hour plus all tips & rarely do the tips go over $50. It is a loss leader to drive traffic to the site. NOT like they are all flocking there because they make tons of money on it.

    Because I know somethings about the people behind it I can't divulge. They all think if they have perfect young pretty gals that men will just throw money at them. They have NO clue about it is really about the hustle and that men like all types & women of many ages over the age of 18 years old. The old porn stereotypes of skinny, young, perfect body who's always nice no matter how rude you are to them. Exist in these idiots heads.
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    I don't have anything nice to say about Ella Darling, but she ain't no tach wizard. Just a paid spokes person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    Those robots are scary. Also Camsoda does a really good job of getting their name out there. They pop up in just about every article I read on camming these days.
    Yes, because they hired a good PR person to make sure it happens. It isn't by accident but by design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    A timely article in the NYTimes:



    virtual reality gets naughty
    I find it weird that the sex doll has really bad back acne. I don't worry about sex dolls replacing us. The line that it's about companionship & just not sex, cracks me up to no end. Have they met men?

    The sex doll whore house has many problems with the men destroying the dolls with rough sex. The calls if they can rape them all they want & demand for underage ones has left the people who answer the phones that set up appointments tramatized. The BS they are doing it because lots of people are lonely.......... laughable. LOTS of men are horny deviants.

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    ^^It seems like from what you have seen behind the scenes that the tech is in the “might be cool someday but today is useless” stage. Let’s see how VR games go and then revisit this in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahuba View Post
    ^^It seems like from what you have seen behind the scenes that the tech is in the “might be cool someday but today is useless” stage. Let’s see how VR games go and then revisit this in a few years.
    Correct, always be keeping current on tech but don't go all in on the newest & latest thing. Prostitution, bordellos, courtesans have all existed and despite porn magazines, porn videos, camming, free porn tube sites........ guess what? Prositution, bordellos & courtesans still exist and still are making money.

    Porn used to be a leader in tech, but it isnt anymore & hasn't been in a while. They still want to think they are cutting edge & a leader in it. Those days are gone.

    Men jack off every day all the time. Spending lots of money for each orgasm isn't their goal.

    When it comes down to a practical price point for those who buy it & those who provide it then it might become popular. Always wait for a tech to go through several generations of it before buying it. Give them time to improve & lower the price point.

    They have been pushing VR for 2 years now. Ella has been traveling all around the world pushing it over doing VR shows herself constantly. Seems to me the money is in being the spokesperson rather than cam girl using it.

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    Some very good points/posts from Sam38g and has made me think again about exactly where VR is going

    "And VR in it's current state isn't entertaining or engaging enough for guys to all rush out & get it". A very good point

    A great deal of hype, yes but I'm always being told that it is still early days for VR

    One area I can see being popular is VR through your mobile/cell phone

    Think of it as "virtual reality phone sex" - if that can work?

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    I would have to say that VR would not be great for mainstream porn and camsites. If they catered to fembot and virtual reality guys only, then they could turn a profit. Why? Because VR and sex robots such as those displayed at Realbotix only appeal to limited groups of people. Also, I never seen any of these companies mentioned reach out the robot fetish community. Many of those guys are great customers who are looking for companies to be interested in their fetish. Often times, they make great income and are pretty passionate about fembots. I mean it is only a few sex workers overall catering to their fetish and I believe that companies are missing them completely.
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    As international phone sex operator, I feel that VR phone sex would be disastrous in Americas/UK . Let me explained why. In North America, phone sex is not really regulated particularly in America.This is why so many phone sex dispatch companies and platforms such as TTM allow taboo fantasies such as Dolcett. In addition, indie direct-dial phone sex operators who do super taboo fantasies could run into legal trouble. That will be an regulation nightmare for VR corporations. Also, platforms nor companies would not be shelling tons of money for the technology to become apart of their systems. Also, the US customer base is made up of a lot of older men and they are often not as technology advance.Meanwhile, phone sex in Latin America outside of Guyana has been limp and not willing to upgrade since the early 90s. Camming is bigger in Latin America phone except for Guyana. Now, the UK has a lot of regulations when it comes to phone sex because the government passing " Violent pornography" act of 2008. Along with the phone sex line registration in the UK, it has made phone sex very interesting in the UK. Frankly, most of the large phone sex platforms in the UK will not approve the VR technology. Now, it could work in the rest of Europe, Asia such as Japan, and Australia.

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    The idea of "virtual reality phone sex" doesn't mean it has to be connected to premium rate lines to work

    Credits or tokens would work? Buying minutes with CC?

    I only say this as a UK company, doing FaceTime chat, are currently offering the service

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    Interestly, I believe that your company could pull it off but make sure to check out if there are any legal regulations coming from the UK about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by UKNicole View Post
    The idea of "virtual reality phone sex" doesn't mean it has to be connected to premium rate lines to work

    Credits or tokens would work? Buying minutes with CC?

    I only say this as a UK company, doing FaceTime chat, are currently offering the service
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