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    a week ago one of the waitresses at my club told me "if i help you make money off these guys can you hook me up after". i said sure, because even though the guy had already decided to VIP with me i absolutely want her to help me in the future.

    i ended up making around 700 after my house fee and tip out. so i threw her $60 at the end of the night. after coming home and talking to my bf, he said that wasn't enough and i should give her another 20-40 so i was planning on giving her that the next time i saw her. instead, she ended up coming up to me and telling me that i "forgot" to tip her out and never gave her anything. i kinda just awkwardly said i could have sworn i did and i'll catch up with her after my shift.

    i KNOW what she said isn't true because i told my bf what i tipped her, i remember doing it + our brief convo, AND i made a blog post about that night which has the date on it and describes the entire incident and how much i tipped her. i ended up leaving after an hour because i was feeling sick so i never caught up with her and have to deal with this next time i work.

    what do i do? i want her on my side and definitely not angry at me or telling other staff that i don't tip/talking shit. i have no idea if she really doesn't remember or is trying to scam me out of a double tip since i think she figured i might have been drunk and wouldn't remember (i wasn't).

    help!! i know i will see her this weekend. she is one of the few waitresses who have been there a while and has lots of regs.

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    Gosh, that's a tough one..to me it does sound like she's hustling you..Id make sure she knows that you remember giving her X amount the other night, & if you give her more $ Id ask for a hand written receipt
    Edit: what's customary to tip out @ your club?

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    Without knowing a little bit more about the dynamics of this club or how it went down that night it is hard to say exactly what to do. Your original post didn't say how much of the $700 came from the room she may or may not have helped you sell. $100 is a lot out of 300, but not 700. I would for sure acknowledge the 60.0 you already gave her but play stupid. Give her another 40.00 and say something along the lines of, "I am sure I put aside 60.00 for you that night, is it possible one of the other waitresses or bartenders grabbed it on accident?"

    Not sure how tip outs work at your club. Did you personally put it in her hand or leave it somewhere? She may have side agreements with several dancers and she could genuinely not remember or she could be trying to hustle you, in which case you may want to reevaluate this relationship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    Without knowing a little bit more about the dynamics of this club or how it went down that night it is hard to say exactly what to do. Your original post didn't say how much of the $700 came from the room she may or may not have helped you sell. $100 is a lot out of 300, but not 700. I would for sure acknowledge the 60.0 you already gave her but play stupid. Give her another 40.00 and say something along the lines of, "I am sure I put aside 60.00 for you that night, is it possible one of the other waitresses or bartenders grabbed it on accident?"

    Not sure how tip outs work at your club. Did you personally put it in her hand or leave it somewhere? She may have side agreements with several dancers and she could genuinely not remember or she could be trying to hustle you, in which case you may want to reevaluate this relationship.
    it was handed directly to her. but she seems nice and it was very late, plus there were two other dancers in that vip with me. so i would completely believe she just doesn't remember, it's very possible. though it's also possible she was trying to hustle me on a slow night on the first of the month.. i really don't know. i never would have thought i'd need a receipt for that. i am new to tipping waitresses because i usually do my own tbing

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    I hope it won't take you too long to get back in the club and straighten it out plus leave her the additional tip. She may think that you're hustling her and be less likely to hook you up next time.

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    girl no!!!!!!! i would have given her her first tip AFTER she helps you out. that's your money and 60 is a lot to tip already for her not doing anything. it might be a different dynamic at your club but i would never dream of throwing money at a waitress like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crystalize View Post
    girl no!!!!!!! i would have given her her first tip AFTER she helps you out. that's your money and 60 is a lot to tip already for her not doing anything. it might be a different dynamic at your club but i would never dream of throwing money at a waitress like that.
    i did get paid before i tipped her

    and yah $60-100 is a lot to tip someone when they just ran a credit card card and delivered one round of drinks while i did all the physical work for an hour. but that's how it goes.. we also have to tip management and floor hosts the same way. they have "connections/hook ups" and that's worth a lot. usually it comes from them being there longer and schmoozing which i suck at so i don't mind tipping i just don't want to be hustled for double

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    She's hustling you for an additional tip, or she genuinely forgot. My intuition tells me she's probably hustling you. If you feel that giving her an extra $20-$40 would make things right then go for it. But I wouldn't let someone bully you into tipping them extra when you were good on your word in the first place. $60 is plenty and nothing for a waitress to be turning up her nose at. Then again, in my entire career I've never tipped a waitress and I've never had a waitress hook me up with a quality customer that I couldn't have scoped out myself, and I do very well without the waitstaff's "help". Insane tips are a necessary evil in this industry but don't get hustled. It sounds like she's trying to con you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    She's hustling you for an additional tip, or she genuinely forgot. My intuition tells me she's probably hustling you. If you feel that giving her an extra $20-$40 would make things right then go for it. But I wouldn't let someone bully you into tipping them extra when you were good on your word in the first place. $60 is plenty and nothing for a waitress to be turning up her nose at. Then again, in my entire career I've never tipped a waitress and I've never had a waitress hook me up with a quality customer that I couldn't have scoped out myself, and I do very well without the waitstaff's "help". Insane tips are a necessary evil in this industry but don't get hustled. It sounds like she's trying to con you.
    yes, i think she is trying to hustle you/see how much she can get away with with you. it sucks that you have to tip out that much... and i would tell her something along the lines of 'we both know that i gave you $60 last time" while still sounding sweet so she knows she can't walk all over you. ugh waitresses....

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    I agree with others that she’s trying to hustle you. If she gives you problems, tell the management. I mean the money is yours and you are the one doing all the work!

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    In my Madea voice ----> Look here Bubbles, you better take that $60 I already gave you and go on somewhere.....


    When a bish claims you owe her money you already done paid

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    She is pissing off someone who pulled $700 off a couple of guys & still got paid $60. It was her job to hustle them for tips, NOT you. Did she bring you those custies? if so then $40 more, if not she OWES you.

    How weak of a waitress to only get them to buy one round of drinks.

    I am sure there is more than one waitress who works there, she ain't the only game in there.

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    If I were you I wouldn't give her more, giving her 60 is more than generous. It doesn't sound like like she helped you.

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    She didn't help you, she just thinks she did and now she thinks she is entitled to your money. Fuck that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    She is pissing off someone who pulled $700 off a couple of guys & still got paid $60. It was her job to hustle them for tips, NOT you. Did she bring you those custies? if so then $40 more, if not she OWES you.

    How weak of a waitress to only get them to buy one round of drinks.

    I am sure there is more than one waitress who works there, she ain't the only game in there.
    yes i think you guys are right! thank you! and not really, the guy who paid was her regular.. but his friend (never been to club before) was the one ALL about me and was so drunk/impatient to go back to VIP with me he kept trying to just go and pay for it himself w/his card. but they made him wait so the main guy could get funny money and he paid for everything. only one round of drinks was brought to the VIP because it was around 2am when they stop serving booze.

    the more i think about this though the more ridiculous it seems. there's one other waitress i sometimes work with at another club and she never expects a tip from me at all. she just hooks me up because she knows i always grab her when someone wants a room, and i always encourage the customer to tip her. that's it.

    sooo yeah when i talk to this girl i'll give her a little extra but let her know i did already tip and that's that. funny enough my friend who deals poker at another club is coming in tonight to apply for a waitress position.. hopefully she gets it and i can just work with her! that would be awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanknguyen View Post
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    tbh $20-$40 is wayyyyy more than enough, the fact that your bf thinks you should have given her more than $60 (like are u kidding me, paying $100 of $700 leaves you with only $600) on only $700 is absolutely ridiculous, especially when you already probably have house fees and other tipouts AND TAXES on top of that. Like, what does he want you to walk with, $400 after all that??? Fuck that, she isn't a sex worker, she doesn't get to make sex worker money. She can make waitress money and do her job correctly, she'll get tipped by the customers and get a $15 tip at the end from you, because that's what she deserves. She isn't doing the work that you are. I used to waitress, dancing is way harder in every single aspect and you earn every dollar u make as a dancer, she should be lucky she got tipped by you at all, she works for you, unless she wants to dance, she can be happy with the $60 she snaked from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babb View Post
    tbh $20-$40 is wayyyyy more than enough, the fact that your bf thinks you should have given her more than $60 (like are u kidding me, paying $100 of $700 leaves you with only $600) on only $700 is absolutely ridiculous, especially when you already probably have house fees and other tipouts AND TAXES on top of that. Like, what does he want you to walk with, $400 after all that??? Fuck that, she isn't a sex worker, she doesn't get to make sex worker money. She can make waitress money and do her job correctly, she'll get tipped by the customers and get a $15 tip at the end from you, because that's what she deserves. She isn't doing the work that you are. I used to waitress, dancing is way harder in every single aspect and you earn every dollar u make as a dancer, she should be lucky she got tipped by you at all, she works for you, unless she wants to dance, she can be happy with the $60 she snaked from you.
    he says that because i complain to him that certain girls in this city are ALWAYS getting hooked up with tables. i want to be one of those girls and i tell him this aalllllll the time, and that night i asked what i should tip to make her want to help me more often. i've always said that if anyone ever did help me i'd want to tip them well so they'll help me more.

    but unfortunately now that it's happened it seems like i'm just being scammed... like, the shadiness of the situation makes me feel almost positive that giving a good tip won't mean i'll be finding myself selling VIP more often. cause even if she did forget then she'll probably forget to call me over for rooms too. meh.

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    Are the waitresses in your city basically the same as the VIP hosts in NYC? They run the rooms and know who goes into rooms and who doesn't?

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    So did the customer tip her?. I never expect the dancers to tip me, they normally tell the customers to give me a good tip and im good. The only time I really expected a tip was when I helped some girls out with a crazy dude, I brought one girl in and they both got $1,000 each but in the end the dude left mad without tipping me so the girls gave me $60 each. I have done both roles so I get it but most waitresses are greedy and don't consider the payouts or the work the dancer has to deal with.
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    If they upsell a dance I tip them like $10. We don’t owe anyone anything! I don’t tip entitled people. I do tip generously, but unless they actually did some work I’m not tipping more than 5 or 10. I’m grinding on them! Unless they are really helpful, it’s like $5. If I make a vip sale that I wouldn’t have got unless they held my hand to go over there like $20. They get a paycheck with benefits like unemployment and disability. They don’t have to deal with the same shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arielbriel View Post
    Are the waitresses in your city basically the same as the VIP hosts in NYC? They run the rooms and know who goes into rooms and who doesn't?
    sorta. we don't have any kind of hosts or bouncers at all. instead of going to a podium, the waitress is the one to handle all of the payment from the guy if he uses a credit card. she is also the only one who goes in there to check up on things.

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    So did the customer tip her?. I never expect the dancers to tip me, they normally tell the customers to give me a good tip and im good. The only time I really expected a tip was when I helped some girls out with a crazy dude, I brought one girl in and they both got $1,000 each but in the end the dude left mad without tipping me so the girls gave me $60 each. I have done both roles so I get it but most waitresses are greedy and don't consider the payouts or the work the dancer has to deal with.
    i was hoping you'd respond to this since you've been on both sides. i know they tipped her i just don't know how much, and i would imagine she got a tip from the other two dancers in the room with me. considering the guy is her regular and took out 2k in funny money i would imagine she got a decent tip from him. after reading y'alls responses it sounds like she's being greedy >.<

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    Yes she sounds greedy, 2k plus drinks the tab would be big and he's her regular she does not need more money from you.
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    I do get why you're BF said 60$ was too low. Tipping culture gets crazy. Used to work in a place where customers would go straight to the Champagne room and when I started there I'd tip the bouncers and they'd hook me up but eventually they were expecting 100$ every time. That's fine if I made 1000$, not fine off 400$ if they don't stay long at all. It's hard but I'd say, ask what the other girls in the room tipped her. If it's 80-100 go ahead and match their tip, make light if it when you give it to her, alluding to the previous 60$, every club runs in a unique way. Also make the effort to be friendly and say hello every shift. If in the next week she hooks you up, kicking her 15% may be worth it to you, if she doesn't you put in the effort to see if her connections and regs were worth tipping her for at least.

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