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    Of course it's a war against women & our freedom to own our own bodies.

    Let's just label EVERYTHING human trafficking whether it is or isn't & vanilla folks have no FUCKING clue what is going on b/c they aren't familiar with our industry.

    This is EXACTLY why there is human trafficking b/c they continue to make escorting illegal so girls are forced to jeopardize their safety by either working independently or with actual pimps instead of REAL entrepreneurs who want to open an escort agency.

    If it was legal, then the truth would come out about what is REALLY going on.

    I ran a professional agency for years (although it was in Canada) & I'm STILL shocked as to how America vilifies this industry that has been around since the beginning of time. I teach people how to start & run an agency as a consultant, but most REAL business people are too scared to get into the industry. That's why we have this situation.

    Be aware of why they are REALLY doing this.

    I think this is a way to take the attention off of the HUGE industry of men & some women who abuse & traffic kids. They are primarily in 2 different industries - the gov't & Hollywood.

    They have been getting away with this BS for YEARS b/c the corrupt gov't protects all the politicians who are involved in this including our current sitting (fill in the blank)

    I'm not talking about the pedo down the street either who is used as scapegoat & paraded in front of the cameras. The REAL culprits never see the inside of a jail cell just like the REAL scammers who steal our money & commit fraud on us NEVER see the inside of a jail cell.

    People who are brainwashed into watching & believing MSM will think this is a good thing.

    Only those of us who watch THE REAL NEWS know what is really going on.

    I'm not a fan of Eros, but they certainly do NOT deserve this BS!!!
    Human traffickers find ways in every venue to make money. Backpage money was 99% from prostitution ads. So ONLY the people who advertise in it get busted while they made millions is okay? If sex workers are at risk of being arrested shouldn't they be too. Why should a few men who run these sites make fortunes exploiting those they know might be arrested? How is that fair?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-raid-n778221 Backpage was involved with child pornography & sex trafficking of kids & adults. Sex slavery which is torture.

    NO one can assume any of these companies are NOT involved in it, NOT like they are going to brag & tell everyone they take money from in ads about it.

    The government agencies will still go after all women & men who prostitute in the U.S. It is a money maker for the court system. It is a way to punish us for knowing all their dirty secrets & how many men are not the upstanding citizens they pretend to be. They will still let cops rape us, men kills us & get away with it. Government law enforcement are human traffickers & enablers of sex slavery.

    Sex workers at any level in the biz can NOT go to the police with death threats, rape & extortion crimes happen against us. They are there to punish those of who get out of line.

    Eros demanded IDs Eros does deserve it. They are profiting on crimes but NEVER being the ones arrested for it. They have made MILLIONS while gals who are just trying to get out of poverty are punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Human traffickers find ways in every venue to make money. Backpage money was 99% from prostitution ads. So ONLY the people who advertise in it get busted while they made millions is okay? If sex workers are at risk of being arrested shouldn't they be too. Why should a few men who run these sites make fortunes exploiting those they know might be arrested? How is that fair?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...s-raid-n778221 Backpage was involved with child pornography & sex trafficking of kids & adults. Sex slavery which is torture.

    NO one can assume any of these companies are NOT involved in it, NOT like they are going to brag & tell everyone they take money from in ads about it.

    The government agencies will still go after all women & men who prostitute in the U.S. It is a money maker for the court system. It is a way to punish us for knowing all their dirty secrets & how many men are not the upstanding citizens they pretend to be. They will still let cops rape us, men kills us & get away with it. Government law enforcement are human traffickers & enablers of sex slavery.

    Sex workers at any level in the biz can NOT go to the police with death threats, rape & extortion crimes happen against us. They are there to punish those of who get out of line.

    Eros demanded IDs Eros does deserve it. They are profiting on crimes but NEVER being the ones arrested for it. They have made MILLIONS while gals who are just trying to get out of poverty are punished.
    Clearly you are against a woman having the right to sell her time as an escort or have the FREEDOM to do whatever she wants with her body. We will agree to disagree on this subject.

    Again, I don't believe anything MSM says.

    I don't know that Eros was guilty of doing what they said & neither do you UNLESS you worked there & know first hand that they encouraged & also helped facilitate sex trafficking which in MY mind is selling a human for the purposes of sex without their consent.

    If I ran a site like that & I thought about it from time to time, I would NEVER have knowingly participated in sex trafficking. It would be a classified site just like ANY other site online. No different, it's just selling ad space, plain & simple.

    No different than CMD selling ad space for girls who want to cam.

    BP on the other hand was a sleazy low end place for hookers although many escorts advertised there too. I'm not here to judge hookers vs. escorts vs. sugar babies vs courtesans. They are all in the same industry with just different varying degrees of how they offer their service.

    I also don't believe that BP was involved in trafficking.

    Just like they took down SILK ROAD & HE also wasn't involved in putting up ads to sell assassin services. They lied about the entire case just to bring him down b/c they couldn't control his site & I think due to his Bit coin structure. I haven't investigated the story 100% yet.

    Now let's talk about OTHER escort classified sites that WERE run by actual PIMPS & they are STILL up & running. The owners of BOTH sites forced the girls to sleep with them otherwise they would put up false negative reviews which would 100% ensure the girl would never get ANY calls.

    And it's NOT just women who are in poverty who get into escorting. Again, these are lies spread by mainstream society.

    Just like there are MANY very educated webcam girls here. I can tell just by how they talk. Same with escorts.

    Yes there are many girls who start in the adult industry b/c they are desperate & need money & I won't even start a conversation about how the SYSTEM creates poverty to keep the masses inline, but there are many others who escort or cam b/c they want to, they like working as an escort for many reasons.

    There's good & bad in every industry.

    And NEITHER the clients nor the escorts should be arrested. Again, this is America that tries to control the entire world. They have taken away our freedom increasingly for the last 30+ years. The US does tons of things that are totally unethical & bully like & it's not just in this industry or even just in America itself.

    Women are raped in the army & almost no one gets reported, but the minute someone speaks the truth (a whistleblower) they are vilified out in the MSM as being a danger to society & they will go to the ends of the earth to hunt them down.

    FOLLOW THE MONEY & POWER & you will see how dangerous these people are.

    Your average killer isn't as dangerous as these people in the gov't & the EVIL CORPS are.

    I believe in freedom & ethics, but I'm not your average person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    Clearly you are against a woman having the right to sell her time as an escort or have the FREEDOM to do whatever she wants with her body. We will agree to disagree on this subject.

    Again, I don't believe anything MSM says.

    I don't know that Eros was guilty of doing what they said & neither do you UNLESS you worked there & know first hand that they encouraged & also helped facilitate sex trafficking which in MY mind is selling a human for the purposes of sex without their consent.

    If I ran a site like that & I thought about it from time to time, I would NEVER have knowingly participated in sex trafficking. It would be a classified site just like ANY other site online. No different, it's just selling ad space, plain & simple.

    No different than CMD selling ad space for girls who want to cam.

    BP on the other hand was a sleazy low end place for hookers although many escorts advertised there too. I'm not here to judge hookers vs. escorts vs. sugar babies vs courtesans. They are all in the same industry with just different varying degrees of how they offer their service.

    I also don't believe that BP was involved in trafficking.

    Just like they took down SILK ROAD & HE also wasn't involved in putting up ads to sell assassin services. They lied about the entire case just to bring him down b/c they couldn't control his site & I think due to his Bit coin structure. I haven't investigated the story 100% yet.

    Now let's talk about OTHER escort classified sites that WERE run by actual PIMPS & they are STILL up & running. The owners of BOTH sites forced the girls to sleep with them otherwise they would put up false negative reviews which would 100% ensure the girl would never get ANY calls.

    And it's NOT just women who are in poverty who get into escorting. Again, these are lies spread by mainstream society.

    Just like there are MANY very educated webcam girls here. I can tell just by how they talk. Same with escorts.

    Yes there are many girls who start in the adult industry b/c they are desperate & need money & I won't even start a conversation about how the SYSTEM creates poverty to keep the masses inline, but there are many others who escort or cam b/c they want to, they like working as an escort for many reasons.

    There's good & bad in every industry.

    And NEITHER the clients nor the escorts should be arrested. Again, this is America that tries to control the entire world. They have taken away our freedom increasingly for the last 30+ years. The US does tons of things that are totally unethical & bully like & it's not just in this industry or even just in America itself.

    Women are raped in the army & almost no one gets reported, but the minute someone speaks the truth (a whistleblower) they are vilified out in the MSM as being a danger to society & they will go to the ends of the earth to hunt them down.

    FOLLOW THE MONEY & POWER & you will see how dangerous these people are.

    Your average killer isn't as dangerous as these people in the gov't & the EVIL CORPS are.

    I believe in freedom & ethics, but I'm not your average person.
    WRONG! Currently in the U.S. it is a crime. It is a misdemeanor to a felony. I will not advise women or men to break the law. Why should those who at the top who are making millions go unpunished & grow richer while those who use their sites face all the repercussions.

    In Germany it is legal. In England it is legal. Until the laws change here in the U.S. many are in danger. I post to help them be aware so they can protect themselves. Cam girls are NOT breaking prostitution laws with camming. There is a huge difference.

    The U.S. is trying to control the world when many other countries have made prostitution legal.......... okay More like Russia is trying to control the world & yesterday threatened to cut off the gas pipe lines to Europe if they didn't do what Russia wants or face freezing to death this winter.

    Yes, all corporations & govs can be evil.

    What you determine to be wrong & does NOT help one single person who is arrested, raped, robbed or killed. At this time prostitution is illegal in the U.S & those laws & more so the ones recently passed are being used as weapons against women & the transgender involved doing this. Whether or not you FEEL it shouldn't be does NOT change the facts or realities of what is going on.

    What you feel or think does is going to help anyone on here?

    I post so they are aware of what is going on so they can protect themselves. 41 million U.S. citizens now live under the poverty line. Poverty is the #1 reason why most get into the sex industry. As someone who has been in it for almost 30 years on many different levels. Seeing those who make the least be punished the most while a few MEN who make the most NEVER face the same problems is WRONG. Let those at Eros, Backpage & Rentaboy feel what everyone else has to go through. Why should they get a pass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    WRONG! Currently in the U.S. it is a crime. It is a misdemeanor to a felony. I will not advise women or men to break the law. Why should those who at the top who are making millions go unpunished & grow richer while those who use their sites face all the repercussions.
    Gay sex was still a crime in many states too until a Supreme Court case struck those laws down in 2003. Are you suggesting that gay men should have refrained from having sex with other gay men prior to 2003? Do you know how many other ridiculous things are still laws in some states?

    There are a lot of escorts on this board who do what they do willingly. I strongly suspect that they do not view Eros, BP or other sites as places that are "using" them. Quite the contrary, these are important tools they use to earn a living. You say that you are not against women deciding what to do with their own bodies, but then you suggest that authorities prosecute the very services that help to provide these women with the freedom to make that choice. Also, your position that these sites are "using" these girls seems to imply that these girls are victims rather than willing entrepreneurs making an informed choice, which is the very argument that morality police use in justifying their persecution of these women.

    Idk, but it sounds to me like you're trying to thread a needle here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    Gay sex was still a crime in many states too until a Supreme Court case struck those laws down in 2003. Are you suggesting that gay men should have refrained from having sex with other gay men prior to 2003? Do you know how many other ridiculous things are still laws in some states?

    There are a lot of escorts on this board who do what they do willingly. They do not view Eros, BP or other sites as places that are "using" them. Quite the contrary, these are important tools they use to earn a living. When you rail against these services and suggest that they be prosecuted, you are also advocating against the freedom of these women to earn a living by doing what they please with their own bodies.
    No, we should fight & fund lobbyist to get laws changed. Just believing they are unjust & wrong, thinking I should do it & never will get caught is a mistake.

    Gay men used to be arrested all the time & the LBGTQ community helped raised funds, gay lawyers worked for free to defend them. The UCLA helped defend & get laws changed. Now, where are the UCLA lawyers to help sex workers? Where are the celebrity charity events for sex workers & lawyers lined up to represent us for free?

    Where are the customers who come out in masses to help get those laws changed? How many customers are willing to sign their legal name & addresses on a petition to change the laws?

    No, I am telling them the laws & odds are stacked up against them. Telling them no matter how they feel or other feel those laws are wrong is NOT going to help them one single bit.

    Every customer says it should be legal, you get arrested & call them for bail........ see how fast they hang up.

    The Feds now can without a warrant get your email accounts, wire tap you & use it & arrest you. Eros having your ID just gave them a data base to start with & do major bust. When did Eros, Backpage or Rentaboy pay the bail and cover the lawyer's bills of those who used those platforms & got arrested?

    Now on social media there are groups of sex workers organizing. Yesterday many protested in New York over that young lady who died jumping out of a window due to the cops busting in & targeting her to be a snitch. Putting her life & family in danger of the police & criminal elements. But how many of those protesting were her clients?

    There very much is a real war & targeting by the U.S. Gov on prostitutes. It is NOT to be taken lightly based upon how people feel about it. This is the same gov going to court houses & arresting immigrants to deport them. They promised only the 'criminals' but they are going after women & children. Ice is breaking all kinds of Human Rights Laws. So many that it is losing agents like crazy & now are paying a hiring firm $40,0000 for EACH new border patrol agents... 5000 new hires at $40,0000 each.

    Those companies are using them. Those companies have been compromised by the U.S. Gov & are not safe. How any of us feel about what goes on between consulting adults is mute until we get the laws changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post

    Where are the customers who come out in masses to help get those laws changed?
    Now THAT id like to see.

    That would be Pretty much 85% of the adult male population.

    It boggles my mind how some of these people will go on a public war against adult industry yet be the main ones trolling escort hotlines, strip clubs, massage parlors, and cam sites, etc. Hypocrites!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Now THAT id like to see.

    That would be Pretty much 85% of the adult male population.

    It boggles my mind how some of these people will go on a public war against adult industry yet be the main ones trolling escort hotlines, strip clubs, massage parlors, and cam sites, etc. Hypocrites!
    No, it is on purpose. We know their dirty secrets, by making it all illegal they have many ways of punishing & keeping those secret lives hidden while be a stand up good Christian in public.

    Once a person is arrested for prostitution they are discriminated in renting, other careers and more easily preyed upon by other predators. They arrest women to 'save' them but then how can you get a decent paying job with a misdemeanor.. By calling it sex trafficking then you can be charged with a felony. Also in the recent laws if a charity helps any of those arrested for prostitution or sex trafficking they will lose their tax exemptions & can be denied any gov aid like rental assistance, food stamps, medicaid & such.

    Thus making it impossible & more stigmatized. Now, how many in Congress, Police Stations, Judges are men? It is bro-code.

    They don't want everyone to know they are cheating on their wives. They don't want everyone to know they are not such good Christians. They want anyone who knows their TRUTH about this stuff punished & marginalized.

    EVERY man who thinks it should be legal should be protesting along with us. Every client signing petitions & funding groups to get laws changed. Betting all of them will NOT give a dime to funding laws being changed with OUT sexual favors in return. How many clients offer to help with bail? Set up accounts & campaign to get their favorite out of jail? Pay their rent while in jail? Without wanting anything sexual in return.


    They all expect us to protect them when arrested. When they get arrested will flip on ALL of us because they have families, businesses & jobs they don't want to risk. Fact is we are all disposable to them. Eros, Backpage and such are NO different.

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    ^^^exactly. Me and the girls went to Congress to protest them passing insane ordinances on adult entertainment posing as community health act. We won by one vote in Kansas. Missiouri didn’t. They passed a 6 ft rule and no nudity or alcohol. One of my friends said the Congress guy came into the club soon after. My friend with a prestigious education gave the Congress guy her business card and he threw it on the ground.

    we are easy target for Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    Clearly you are against a woman having the right to sell her time as an escort or have the FREEDOM to do whatever she wants with her body. We will agree to disagree on this subject.

    Again, I don't believe anything MSM says.

    I don't know that Eros was guilty of doing what they said & neither do you UNLESS you worked there & know first hand that they encouraged & also helped facilitate sex trafficking which in MY mind is selling a human for the purposes of sex without their consent.

    If I ran a site like that & I thought about it from time to time, I would NEVER have knowingly participated in sex trafficking. It would be a classified site just like ANY other site online. No different, it's just selling ad space, plain & simple.

    No different than CMD selling ad space for girls who want to cam.

    BP on the other hand was a sleazy low end place for hookers although many escorts advertised there too. I'm not here to judge hookers vs. escorts vs. sugar babies vs courtesans. They are all in the same industry with just different varying degrees of how they offer their service.

    I also don't believe that BP was involved in trafficking.

    Just like they took down SILK ROAD & HE also wasn't involved in putting up ads to sell assassin services. They lied about the entire case just to bring him down b/c they couldn't control his site & I think due to his Bit coin structure. I haven't investigated the story 100% yet.

    Now let's talk about OTHER escort classified sites that WERE run by actual PIMPS & they are STILL up & running. The owners of BOTH sites forced the girls to sleep with them otherwise they would put up false negative reviews which would 100% ensure the girl would never get ANY calls.

    And it's NOT just women who are in poverty who get into escorting. Again, these are lies spread by mainstream society.

    Just like there are MANY very educated webcam girls here. I can tell just by how they talk. Same with escorts.

    Yes there are many girls who start in the adult industry b/c they are desperate & need money & I won't even start a conversation about how the SYSTEM creates poverty to keep the masses inline, but there are many others who escort or cam b/c they want to, they like working as an escort for many reasons.

    There's good & bad in every industry.

    And NEITHER the clients nor the escorts should be arrested. Again, this is America that tries to control the entire world. They have taken away our freedom increasingly for the last 30+ years. The US does tons of things that are totally unethical & bully like & it's not just in this industry or even just in America itself.

    Women are raped in the army & almost no one gets reported, but the minute someone speaks the truth (a whistleblower) they are vilified out in the MSM as being a danger to society & they will go to the ends of the earth to hunt them down.

    FOLLOW THE MONEY & POWER & you will see how dangerous these people are.

    Your average killer isn't as dangerous as these people in the gov't & the EVIL CORPS are.

    I believe in freedom & ethics, but I'm not your average person.
    That user is clearly against sex work and is using the opportunity to preach its claims, NOT listen to anyone's side. Dont. Do. It. Just Ignore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    That user is clearly against sex work and is using the opportunity to preach its claims, NOT listen to anyone's side. Dont. Do. It. Just Ignore
    I've come to the same conclusion. I cannot think of any other logical reason why someone who is purportedly against the persecution of escorts would support the persecution of the sales channels that they rely upon. The justification that places like BP and EROS should be attacked because they are secretly government collaborators seems very flimsy to me and unsupported by anything that I've read (and I track this stuff fairly closely). The much more logical explanation is that she just doesn't like the notion of women selling sex to men, but isn't willing to come out and say it as this would be an unpopular position around here.

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    Backpage, Eros and all others have been compromised. You want to lie to these women & tell them it is safe to advertise on them.

    These are NOT good people who own & run them.

    Lying to women and telling them there are NOT real consequences they are facing more so than 10 years ago is dangerous.

    Laws have been changed to make it a felony & not a misdemeanor. There is Federal funds going into local law enforcement to target prostitution all across this country. The U.S. Gov turned a blind eye to it for almost 20 years & way to many thought meant it was okay to be so open & blatant about it.

    GOP is coming after ALL OF the sex industry ON ALL levels. GOP needs a win & we all will be sacrificed for it. I post to warn all women about these changes & how we are under attack. You can go ahead & ignore it & post how you feel how it should be illegal.

    What are you doing to change those laws & make it legal? Because if sex workers do it then the police come after us first.

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    When Undercover cops bust your friends & ask them how your friend "my real name" is now a porn star is doing. Get back to me.

    Cause I've had many of friends & then porn stars get busted calling me up for help on how to make money legally.

    I actually know the creators of Ero-Guide & Backpage before ya'll even heard of them. I am OG!

    The creator of Backpage worked at an adult alternative paper in Dallas... Guess who happens to be on one of the Covers about 18 years ago?

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    Backpage & Eros MADE millions
    Backpage in California Alone is reported to be making $2.5 million a MONTH.
    Now they are donating money to politicians to give them a pass on being prosecuted but ZERO money to help legalize prostitution. These companies have been making fortunes & they have NOT done any funding at all to help legalize prostitution in the U.S.

    https://www.mediapost.com/publicatio...-backpage.html

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-from-backp/?

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...910ca2a61.html

    This article says 50% of arrest of prostitution are from the pages of Backpage
    http://wbtw.com/2017/11/27/lawmakers...-horry-county/

    Craigslist & other companies like it are fighting to protect their asses but NOT to legalize prostitution.
    http://www.odwyerpr.com/story/public...king-bill.html

    They all want immunity but NOT the legalization.
    https://www.wired.com/story/are-tech...fficking-bill/

    Knowingly accepted ads for trafficking of underaged girls.
    http://www.cleveland.com/nation/inde...rt_backpa.html

    Dallas based company.. oh my guess where I'm from.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...rosshairs.html

    So if 50% of the ads leads to arrest of prostitutes, knowingly took money for underage sex trafficking & only paying money for immunity to protect their own asses. They all made millions in profits. Those companies are evil. The gals who pay them money are being used. I don't blame people who are trying to earn a living without harming others, but they major money making companies are NOT operating to help you.

    If they had over all these years spent money & campaigned to make it legal it would be a different story but they didn't.
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    I've used BP for years but never for escorting. They use to be amazing for website plugs because you were allowed to list hyperlinks and even place tracking codes within your ads. You could see first hand just how many people were clicking on your ad and from where. That would allow you to determine which city was best for targeting specific genres etc. That was for legit services. Now you can't place any links. You can't use analytics to track your ads, the adult services section is gone. Even before it disappeared even promoted ads where frequently ghosted. Everyone is mixed in with lowball prices, and on top of all of that law enforcement all over the United States use BP as their number one source for attacking prostitution. Why does anyone use BP to get dates after all of that? And they've been under investigation for sex trafficking for well over a year now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    WRONG! Currently in the U.S. it is a crime. It is a misdemeanor to a felony. I will not advise women or men to break the law. Why should those who at the top who are making millions go unpunished & grow richer while those who use their sites face all the repercussions.

    In Germany it is legal. In England it is legal. Until the laws change here in the U.S. many are in danger. I post to help them be aware so they can protect themselves. Cam girls are NOT breaking prostitution laws with camming. There is a huge difference.

    The U.S. is trying to control the world when many other countries have made prostitution legal.......... okay More like Russia is trying to control the world & yesterday threatened to cut off the gas pipe lines to Europe if they didn't do what Russia wants or face freezing to death this winter.


    Yes, all corporations & govs can be evil.

    What you determine to be wrong & does NOT help one single person who is arrested, raped, robbed or killed. At this time prostitution is illegal in the U.S & those laws & more so the ones recently passed are being used as weapons against women & the transgender involved doing this. Whether or not you FEEL it shouldn't be does NOT change the facts or realities of what is going on.

    What you feel or think does is going to help anyone on here?

    I post so they are aware of what is going on so they can protect themselves. 41 million U.S. citizens now live under the poverty line. Poverty is the #1 reason why most get into the sex industry. As someone who has been in it for almost 30 years on many different levels. Seeing those who make the least be punished the most while a few MEN who make the most NEVER face the same problems is WRONG. Let those at Eros, Backpage & Rentaboy feel what everyone else has to go through. Why should they get a pass?

    I went to Europe for the first time about 3 months ago. Traveled to The Netherlands, France and Belgium. Was completely blown away seeing the clean and well maintained red light districts in Belgium and Amsterdam were sex work is legal.

    The red light district I visited in Belgium was situated behind a college and specifically had a police station built in the center of it and if any of the working girls had any problems with a custy all they had to do was push a button to summon the police. Each woman had her own window to attract custys and inside was a bed, lots of condoms and a washsink/squat toilet in the back. The women all were clean, healthy, and done up in makeup, heels and lingerie. A few could be centerfolds for a magazine.

    Talked to a few of the working girls who hailed from places such as Spain, Romania and Morocco respectively and they told me that even though they could probably make more money in the United States they wouldn't go to work in the States because they weren't going to expose themselves to being raped, robbed, or arrested.

    Also, in the red light district setting women still choose who they want to be with. People seem to think the window girls see everyone, that they're victims and that they have no power but one couldn't be further from the truth. The males have to ask through the glass to see a specific girl and if the window girl doesn't want to see you for whatever reason they turn you away with a finger moving left to right. It felt just like dating or going to a nightclub were you take your chances trying to get the girl you want where sometimes you hit and other times you strike out.

    I'm back here in the United States and 3 months later I'm still kinda depressed. It just sucks here. Americas solution to everything is to just throw people in jail. America isn't a free country anymore if it even ever was to begin with.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Now THAT id like to see.

    That would be Pretty much 85% of the adult male population.

    It boggles my mind how some of these people will go on a public war against adult industry yet be the main ones trolling escort hotlines, strip clubs, massage parlors, and cam sites, etc. Hypocrites!
    And most of those men are MARRIED with children which is why you don't see men out in the open protesting for sex workers. And for many men with good jobs they would lose them if they were found to be engaging with sex workers.

    Most women don't even want a man who has a history of patronizing sex workers, and for some women, even going to a strip club is a deal breaker, or at the least will cause strife.

    Believe it or not the biggest hurdle to overcome in legalizing sex work is convincing women who aren't sex workers to go along with it. Women have a lot of power in America as a voting group and because they control the household spending through the men they married and the majorty of those women are not in favor of legalzing sex work because it competes directly against them. Sex workers are a threat to all the women that want to get married and be taken care of and it's a threat to all the industries that support the traditional courting process from the first date to divorce.

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    So it is sex worker's responsibility to convince their clients wive's it is okay to cheat on them. Then the customers will stand with sex workers in solidarity. It's sex worker's hurdles to convince your wives............. Are a comedian?

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    I got into the sex industry because I was molested as a kid by a dad who was in the church and the church told him that his sexual needs were big time sin so he hid it and too it out on his kids.

    Fast forward I talk to men and help them realize that they don't have to hide and they don't have to force people to play along. They can pay people and it all works out. In that situation I have the control. I say who, when, where, how much. I am my own boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    Sex workers are a threat to all the women that want to get married and be taken care of and it's a threat to all the industries that support the traditional courting process from the first date to divorce.
    Oh, so, men only court a woman if they want to fuck her? They don't court women who they love and would make good wives and mothers? Your logic is majorly flawed. I didn't know guys were going to the strip club, cam sites etc so they could court a woman or have a relationship. It seems like they just want to get laid/get off. In fact, many SW have a hard time getting into relationships at all because guys just want to fuck them.

    SW are NOT competition for vanilla girls, AT ALL, unless the guy they want is just a pig and not really interested in a relationship. I also don't see vanilla girls complaining about how those damn strippers are stealing all of the good men. lol what world are we living in in this thread?

    I'd conversely complain that vanilla girls are making it hard for SWs by demonizing that we offer our time/attention/beauty in exchange for financial gain and label us as dirty or whores or whatever else and tarnish our societal image.

    I'm shocked at all of those bridal places going out of business since the influx of free pornography. Frankly, if I had a love interest and he was distancing himself from me because he got a lapdance from Miss AP or seen Sam's titties I wouldn't be upset at Miss AP or Sam AT ALL, I'd be upset at him for equating our relationship with just having an orgasm and thankful to Miss AP and Sam for saving me from a few years of martial misery and let down. I might just run my guy past some of the ladies on here one day as a damn test now.

    Yall my man left me because PGD made him bust a nut on the phone

    wtf? LOL

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    Yall my man left me because PGD made him bust a nut on the phone

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    Important information related to Eros......banks are apparently closing accounts belonging to customers who billed ads on the site to those accounts. Ugh. If your bank might do this to you....hurry up & open a second checking account somewhere. Btw Wal Mart offers several prepaid cards you can use to pay for online ads. Best not to trust banks anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    WRONG! Currently in the U.S. it is a crime. It is a misdemeanor to a felony. I will not advise women or men to break the law. Why should those who at the top who are making millions go unpunished & grow richer while those who use their sites face all the repercussions.

    In Germany it is legal. In England it is legal. Until the laws change here in the U.S. many are in danger. I post to help them be aware so they can protect themselves. Cam girls are NOT breaking prostitution laws with camming. There is a huge difference.

    The U.S. is trying to control the world when many other countries have made prostitution legal.......... okay More like Russia is trying to control the world & yesterday threatened to cut off the gas pipe lines to Europe if they didn't do what Russia wants or face freezing to death this winter.

    Yes, all corporations & govs can be evil.

    What you determine to be wrong & does NOT help one single person who is arrested, raped, robbed or killed. At this time prostitution is illegal in the U.S & those laws & more so the ones recently passed are being used as weapons against women & the transgender involved doing this. Whether or not you FEEL it shouldn't be does NOT change the facts or realities of what is going on.

    What you feel or think does is going to help anyone on here?

    I post so they are aware of what is going on so they can protect themselves. 41 million U.S. citizens now live under the poverty line. Poverty is the #1 reason why most get into the sex industry. As someone who has been in it for almost 30 years on many different levels. Seeing those who make the least be punished the most while a few MEN who make the most NEVER face the same problems is WRONG. Let those at Eros, Backpage & Rentaboy feel what everyone else has to go through. Why should they get a pass?
    The problem HERE as I see it, is that you still believe in gov't. You bow down to gov't & allow them to control you.

    I understand that it's scary & that they have the power, but WE THE PEOPLE have power too.

    I'm a conscious agorist. I believe in freedom, I do NOT believe that a corrupt gov't has the right to tell me what to do with my life.

    So long as you & everyone else STILL believes they SHOULD be controlling us, they will continue to CONTROL us. It's that simple.

    The US is the ONLY so called "first world" country in the entire world that still villifies prostitution & while yes we can blame it on the brainwasted religious fanatics & I believe that is a huge part of the problem, people are ALSO brainwashed by gov't.

    https://ourfreesociety.com/cult-of-state-worship/

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Now THAT id like to see.

    That would be Pretty much 85% of the adult male population.

    It boggles my mind how some of these people will go on a public war against adult industry yet be the main ones trolling escort hotlines, strip clubs, massage parlors, and cam sites, etc. Hypocrites!
    And it's NO different how they parade killers & pedos in front of the cameras & they THEMSELVES are killers & pedos.

    Do you think for one minute that politicians & people who are CEOs of EVIL CORPS don't kill people? Of course they do.

    The problem is the hypocracy.

    These things usually do NOT happen in EU. If a CEO is corrupt, or a gov't official is corrupt & the people find out about it, they raise holly HELL.

    The problem in the US is that everyone has been poisoned & brainwashed. The toxins you ingest make you docile.

    I'm not saying there weren't toxins before, but not like there is NOW.

    Back in the 70's Americans rallied AGAINST the war. Now the people who come out are like 1% of what was there before.

    They have brainwasted & poisoned an ENTIRE COUNTRY & most people from around the world don't even understand why Americans aren't sticking up for themselves.

    These guys who use the adult industry who then vote against OUR FREEDOMS are ASSHOLES, but they also live in fear. Fear that if they don't follow along with the powers that be, they will either lose their entire reputation, OR be killed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Exxotica View Post
    That user is clearly against sex work and is using the opportunity to preach its claims, NOT listen to anyone's side. Dont. Do. It. Just Ignore
    I don't know why you are posting what I said, I think you have me confused with Sam38g or you just didn't read what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by rickdugan View Post
    I've come to the same conclusion. I cannot think of any other logical reason why someone who is purportedly against the persecution of escorts would support the persecution of the sales channels that they rely upon. The justification that places like BP and EROS should be attacked because they are secretly government collaborators seems very flimsy to me and unsupported by anything that I've read (and I track this stuff fairly closely). The much more logical explanation is that she just doesn't like the notion of women selling sex to men, but isn't willing to come out and say it as this would be an unpopular position around here.
    I NEVER supported the prosecution of sales channels. Not UNLESS they are run by pimps & unfortunately several are.

    Go back & re-read what I said, I was the one who stuck up for the sales channels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ep2002 View Post
    The problem HERE as I see it, is that you still believe in gov't. You bow down to gov't & allow them to control you.

    I understand that it's scary & that they have the power, but WE THE PEOPLE have power too.

    I'm a conscious agorist. I believe in freedom, I do NOT believe that a corrupt gov't has the right to tell me what to do with my life.

    So long as you & everyone else STILL believes they SHOULD be controlling us, they will continue to CONTROL us. It's that simple.

    The US is the ONLY so called "first world" country in the entire world that still villifies prostitution & while yes we can blame it on the brainwasted religious fanatics & I believe that is a huge part of the problem, people are ALSO brainwashed by gov't.

    https://ourfreesociety.com/cult-of-state-worship/



    And it's NO different how they parade killers & pedos in front of the cameras & they THEMSELVES are killers & pedos.

    Do you think for one minute that politicians & people who are CEOs of EVIL CORPS don't kill people? Of course they do.

    The problem is the hypocracy.

    These things usually do NOT happen in EU. If a CEO is corrupt, or a gov't official is corrupt & the people find out about it, they raise holly HELL.

    The problem in the US is that everyone has been poisoned & brainwashed. The toxins you ingest make you docile.

    I'm not saying there weren't toxins before, but not like there is NOW.

    Back in the 70's Americans rallied AGAINST the war. Now the people who come out are like 1% of what was there before.

    They have brainwasted & poisoned an ENTIRE COUNTRY & most people from around the world don't even understand why Americans aren't sticking up for themselves.

    These guys who use the adult industry who then vote against OUR FREEDOMS are ASSHOLES, but they also live in fear. Fear that if they don't follow along with the powers that be, they will either lose their entire reputation, OR be killed.





    I don't know why you are posting what I said, I think you have me confused with Sam38g or you just didn't read what I said.



    I NEVER supported the prosecution of sales channels. Not UNLESS they are run by pimps & unfortunately several are.

    Go back & re-read what I said, I was the one who stuck up for the sales channels.
    @ep2002 those last two responses were not about you or your perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Important information related to Eros......banks are apparently closing accounts belonging to customers who billed ads on the site to those accounts. Ugh. If your bank might do this to you....hurry up & open a second checking account somewhere. Btw Wal Mart offers several prepaid cards you can use to pay for online ads. Best not to trust banks anymore...
    Do you have an article about this or is it word of mouth?

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