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    Default Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    So.....


    I know this seems to 'accidentally' happen to lots of girls that dance and then happen to put out with a long term regular in hopes to keep him spending etc.
    I have never done that before and so my stripping regulars have always flucuated or had a time limit on them..usually 3-4 months before they move on.

    However..I have one regular now that Ive known for over a year now, he isn't consistent but.... he spends. And he does what he says and is reliable. I have done enough due diligence to figure that he would be a good escort client if I delve into that world (since Im still researching), however, he DOES want more intimacy than I am ok with. Like for escorting clients I would not be ok with making out etc.

    But I was wondering have any girls that have danced successfully transitioned regulars before?? And if so... how do you decide your rate for them? This guy will spend 1-3k just for a few hours of time or some dances, so I can't be charging him the same if sex ended up being included... it would need to be more but not sure how to pitch that kind of idea to him...

    thoughts?

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    I think it's best to keep dancing and escorting separate. I mean you can do whatever you want. I feel that with someone who is a regular at a club, especially if you said that you think he wants more intimacy than you are okay with, I'd be hesitant on that. Sure you could charge him more but what if he wants the whole gfe experience? You said that you wouldn't make out with escorting clients. He might be expecting that. I think that if something is going to cross your comfort level maybe you should reconsider or at least set boundaries.

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    I did it once... escorted with a good regular from the club. It didn't end well for me. He didn't pay what he'd promised, and I could have made SO much more from him, just from a tease in the VIP room.

    Why escort with a good SC customer?

    If he wanted an escort, he would get an escort. He apparently likes you, and likes the SC environment. Sounds like you've got a good thing going, why try to change it? Think about the long term... in the SC, customers get off on a fantasy. Keep the fantasy alive.

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    Quote Originally Posted by seashell View Post
    Sounds like you've got a good thing going, why try to change it? Think about the long term... in the SC, customers get off on a fantasy. Keep the fantasy alive.
    Yes! This. Would you rather keep him as a good customer at the club or possibly risk losing him? Guys can get extra petty towards escorts and can drop you if you don't cater to their every fantasy, even dangerous/risky requests like them wanting to do bareback. If you can continue to earn on him without needing to have sex, I'd stick with that.

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    I find club regulars have existing emotional expectations that escorting clients don't tend to have....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I find club regulars have existing emotional expectations that escorting clients don't tend to have....
    Yes! Most of the time SC regulars who you see outside turn really clingy and all of a sudden think they have an actual shot with you lol. Like oh she must really like me and want to be with me....bahahaha!!

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    Once they get it, they move onto the next challenge.

    Not only turn clingy but demand you fuck them or they will tell the club. He can get loud in the club & tell everyone he fucks you, then all the other guys there will expect sex too. If he does turn clingy, comes to your work & gets jealous would it really be worth it? Causing a scene because you wouldn't leave with him right then & there.

    He likes the chase, once caught they move onto another to chase.

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    I agree with what the others are saying on here but if you decide to go for it despite this, here is my two cents: I transitioned from dancing into escorting full time. I guess I got lucky because my regulars at the club saw me outside the club and still bought the normal amount of dancing when I did see them at the club. Then when I transitioned fully into escorting I just saw them more often. So it did work for me in most cases. Sure, there were a few guys who ended up wanting more than I was comfortable with or who I could've made more on long term if I had kept it to the club but that was the minority. For the ones who stuck with me, it was their idea. I did not initiate this arrangement and I made a point to really "think it over" which made it seem like they needed to spend more $ to convince me. The downside is that most club regulars know that the club takes a cut of the VIP so they will try to use that as leverage to say that you will make more money with them outside the club. Make your case! Make sure you have a specific number $$ of how much you could lose if you take them out of the club and charge accordingly. DO NOT break your own rules...that is a slippery slope and can get you into trouble.

    Also, do not take anyones word. Guys will make all kinds of promises. I took a full year to transition so I had time to build customers outside of the club so I didn't have to rely on my old regulars in case everything went to shit. Fortunately, my regulars from the club mostly stayed my regulars in escorting. They will still fly me out to see them now that I moved, 3+ years later. So it can be done. PM me for more details if you want! BUT, seriously consider all the risks. This was just my experience and not the rule

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    Default Re: Turning dance regulars into escorting clients??

    All the girls in the clubs I've worked in who do afters are GFE. Think about it. Stripclubs involve a lot of projection on the customers part. He has been fantasizing about kissing you since he met you. The girls who do afters sell the fulfillment of this fantasy... not a quick trick with no kissing. That's isn't what they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    I find club regulars have existing emotional expectations that escorting clients don't tend to have....
    See this guy is very different from a typical regular/gfe/sugar daddy type, thats why i entertained this option, he is like SUPER not needy, not overwhelming, not overly touchy or grabby.. he's super aloof and always lets me put his hands on me if he ever touches and is very respectful and not emotional with me at all. We just talk about business and traveling all the time, and he leaves these little clues like he wants me to be his gf or buy a condo for me downtown, or travel to Bora Bora or Maldives this year... but he's so NON-attentive unless he's providing something for me, like money or business advice haha..

    I dunno, it is a good thing, I guess I'll just start seeing if I can get 5k out of him each visit soon and just keep increasing the amounts in some way. We've planned to meet for dinner twice but something always seems to come up, so I don't ever push for it. I do know that I am definitely 'an escape' for him.

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    Maybe you could find a way to make it work for you but personally, I like to keep the two separate from my own experience.

    I worked at a place in LA where it was incredibly common for dancers to meet the customers outside of the club, such that the customers would go to this place to pick up dancers to take home more so than for actual dancing.

    In NYC, I'd be scared to do this. Some places in the city do things Harvey Weinstain-esque style, where the men with a financial interest in the company (unbeknownst to you bc obviously you don't have their info, the club does) access the dancers and potentially enjoy special privileges in the back rooms. At least with Sapphire, it's all about the money-they don't want you taking their money outside of the club. Plus, the management and customers are all bffs with a male misogynist mentality. So if there is an issue between you and the customer, the person paying to do whatever they feel entitled to do to you in private will always win, per management. I don't yet know how it is at Rick's, Hustler or other places. Just be advised, that there is always the risk that the clients/customers will go to management in case something goes contrary to their request, and you will lose your job at the club.

    I met one guy at the LA club who I went to see at his mother's house, two hours away outside of LA, in a sort of arrangement. I fell for him pretty hard pretty fast, then he dumped me. The whole incident was like a really bad nightmare and I'm not the same since, even though this was several years ago. I've tried meeting a few others outside but the fees for my time that they pay are laughable compared to the set fees for time in the club. So I just stopped that game altogether.

    I remember seeing a post on this forum by a nyc girl with usually good advice, that once you take your regulars outside of the club, it's really difficult to bring them back in and they are no longer as well behaved. If you are able to enforce proper boundaries better than I am, perhaps you can make it work for you. But I'd advise, proceed with caution.

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    yah I do worry a bit that he will push boundaries more and more.. we have had to come to my place 2 times (he'll just get dances in my living room for like an hour, pay me $1200-2k and then leave, he always tries to make out with me a bit and push the intimacy boundary..never too much tho); but the one time he first came to my place it was because my club closed at 2am and he showed up at 1:20am so I only had time for some dances at work and told him I could continue with time at my place since the hotels were booked, I had already seen him a bunch and researched him as much as I could so I felt "safe" per say, however I gotta say it is WEIRD I can't find any information at all about him online... like his email is legit, he sends me paypal usually, and he seems legit; and i know he has a Facebook but its definitely not under the name i know of him.. so its all very odd to me... this is why i should prob just keep him a regular i guess. Because escorting clients i would want all their info & references and to know exactly who they are; strip club clients always want to conceal their identity or are full of shit lol

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    @NYC.Bianca Not sure if I've asked you this before but where do you dance that the guy is so generous?

    Also, if you'd like, there are a couple of websites you can use to screen people to find out their info whether it's for this line of work, or even doing a basic background check on your potential dog sitter. If you'd like, you can message me and I can give you the screening website info.

    As far as this guy, I don't know what to tell you. I will say that with an experience I had with a guy who I had as my friend via another job, I'd be careful with men in private settings. Men who are most likely to sexually assault you are ones that you already know. It's already difficult enough to enforce proper boundaries in a more controlled environment with security in a strip club (assuming the club is a good club, with security that is more concerned with protecting it's dancers from it's clientele, rather than vice versa), and in complete privacy such as your home, things could get out of hand when you least expect it.

    Also, men with nothing to hide who are not professional pick-up-artists will give you correct information that is easily searchable, even if they are actual somebodies with a reputation at stake. That's just my experience.

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    IDK-I think it's best to keep the two separate. If you dance and escort, use a different name for each and advertise online and don't show your face for escorting. Most clubs will fire you if they find out you're escorting. Even if you're smart about it, what if a relationship you have with a client goes sour and he blabs to the club that you're escorting on the side?






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    Quote Originally Posted by blondhottie View Post
    IDK-I think it's best to keep the two separate. If you dance and escort, use a different name for each and advertise online and don't show your face for escorting. Most clubs will fire you if they find out you're escorting. Even if you're smart about it, what if a relationship you have with a client goes sour and he blabs to the club that you're escorting on the side?
    Yes to me the blabbermouth guy aspect makes it not worth it.

    Different dancers have different experiences. .....I'll add to this topic when I have access to a laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSugarMonster View Post
    @NYC.Bianca Not sure if I've asked you this before but where do you dance that the guy is so generous?

    Also, if you'd like, there are a couple of websites you can use to screen people to find out their info whether it's for this line of work, or even doing a basic background check on your potential dog sitter. If you'd like, you can message me and I can give you the screening website info.

    As far as this guy, I don't know what to tell you. I will say that with an experience I had with a guy who I had as my friend via another job, I'd be careful with men in private settings. Men who are most likely to sexually assault you are ones that you already know. It's already difficult enough to enforce proper boundaries in a more controlled environment with security in a strip club (assuming the club is a good club, with security that is more concerned with protecting it's dancers from it's clientele, rather than vice versa), and in complete privacy such as your home, things could get out of hand when you least expect it.

    Also, men with nothing to hide who are not professional pick-up-artists will give you correct information that is easily searchable, even if they are actual somebodies with a reputation at stake. That's just my experience.

    I dance in Denver (not NYC but have no idea how to change my username), and I have a handful of regulars that are just like him only less nerdy. I tend to hustle super nerdy tech guys the best who really want a beautiful but also intelligent woman to be around. he will send me whatever amount I ask for tho, sometimes 2500 it just depends. That's why it's like... why would I sleep with him for that unless I was charging like 15k or something? And then how do I even begin to have that conversation with him..

    hes a total nerd but a cuter one in his late 40's so no a pua guy at all. I would love the screening website info please!! Haven't been able to find anything on him and when he's told me he's gone to other clubs in town in the past, let's just say I know he's not new to any of this...

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