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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    I would bet that some time in prison would transform douchebags into nice decent human beings.
    Assault and/or rape are crimes. But, merely being a douchbag is not.

    Take Trump or Clinton... both of them are douchbags towards women. But, neither of them has committed a crime. (Perhaps they are guilty of a class C misdemeanor assault, for offensive touching, but, that is a fine-only offense.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    As an alpha female I find your post insulting. Using terms like Feminist & how you are not concerned with an epidemic of overly sensitive womens........ is the denial that women deserve equality & negatively describing whistle blowers so that they will not be believed.
    You miss my point entirely and you put words into my mouth. When did I say I am "not concerned with an epidemic of overly sensitive women"?

    My point about feminists is this: - Would a feminist say that women need more protection or that women need to get tougher and stand up for themselves? How would you propose to protect women better - assign them a male 'protector' to look after them? Install cameras everywhere to keep guard over them? I think a feminist would say that women need to get tougher by speaking up sooner. Failing to speak up, silent women became enablers. I am not blaming the victims, I am simply repeating what the victims themselves have said - they are ashamed they did not raise their voices sooner and that their silence enabled/encouraged the men to continue to behave the same way. One solution may be to require (or strongly encourage) young women to take self-defense classes that include verbal and physical self-defense techniques to deal with sexual harassment scenarios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Assault and/or rape are crimes. But, merely being a douchbag is not.

    Take Trump or Clinton... both of them are douchbags towards women. But, neither of them has committed a crime. (Perhaps they are guilty of a class C misdemeanor assault, for offensive touching, but, that is a fine-only offense.)
    Bruh grabbing pussy and sexual misconduct?!?!?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/u...ange-that.html

    https://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/49779...sexual-conduct


    *cough* minimizing *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    You miss my point entirely and you put words into my mouth. When did I say I am "not concerned with an epidemic of overly sensitive women"?

    My point about feminists is this: - Would a feminist say that women need more protection or that women need to get tougher and stand up for themselves? How would you propose to protect women better - assign them a male 'protector' to look after them? Install cameras everywhere to keep guard over them? I think a feminist would say that women need to get tougher by speaking up sooner. Failing to speak up, silent women became enablers. I am not blaming the victims, I am simply repeating what the victims themselves have said - they are ashamed they did not raise their voices sooner and that their silence enabled/encouraged the men to continue to behave the same way. One solution may be to require (or strongly encourage) young women to take self-defense classes that include verbal and physical self-defense techniques to deal with sexual harassment scenarios.
    Yes it would never hurt to learn self-defense and assertiveness training but What does the woman need protection against?.....

    Perhaps encourage men/young boys to learn laws regarding CONSENT

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    I did not read everyone's response, but here goes...
    The problem is this.... young little boys need to be taught to respect females. From very young.

    You always see parents lecturing their daughter to "respect themself" and "don't let so and so do this and that".... as if it is her fault that some boy's shitty behavior is her fault.

    I barely, now a days... hear parents instilling in their little boy's head to respect women... hell, it should be ppl in general. It starts at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Saying that an employee chose to go to work for a rich and powerful douchebag is NOT a valid defense for someone who sexually harasses or mistreats their employees. If a rich and powerful douchebag chooses not to follow the law regarding how he treats his employees, he is subject to civil suits and possibly criminal charges, depending on how far he goes. Please stop blaming the victim. EVERY person is entitled to be treated respectfully by their employer, regardless of what type of person he is in public. NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW.
    I can tell you who is above the law - the person whose victims are too afraid to seek the protection of the law.

    If you go work for a douchbag, I am not saying your should submit. Why are you putting these words in my mouth?

    I am saying if you go work with a douchbag BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH A DOUCHBAG. That means, have the nerve to stand up for yourself. Don't just stand frozen and 'shocked' that a narcissistic ego-maniac douchbag is acting like a douchbag. If you are a hot young reporter invited to meet Trump alone in his penthouse, first of all - don't agree to meet him in his penthouse! Second, take precautions, and be prepared to slap the man if he becomes fresh. Don't just stand frozen and paralyzed when he squeezes your ass!

    Is it blaming the victim to say - stay alert, go armed and be prepared for battle?

    Answer me this, Eagle: If your boss is a gay douchbag and one day he calls you into his office, closes the door and grabs your crotch, what do you do? I would punch him in the face and kick his ass in front of everyone, and, tell everyone why I beat the shit out of my boss. (I do not have anything against gay men, BTW.)

    I am saying the same thing the victims are saying about this - they are saying they should have stood up for themselves.

    We can write laws about putting douchbags in front of a firing squad, but, until women stand up for themselves, nothing will change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I can tell you who is above the law - the person whose victims are too afraid to seek the protection of the law.

    If you go work for a douchbag, I am not saying your should submit. Why are you putting these words in my mouth?

    I am saying if you go work with a douchbag BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH A DOUCHBAG. That means, have the nerve to stand up for yourself. Don't just stand frozen and 'shocked' that a narcissistic ego-maniac douchbag is acting like a douchbag. If you are a hot young reporter invited to meet Trump alone in his penthouse, first of all - don't agree to meet him in his penthouse! Second, take precautions, and be prepared to slap the man if he becomes fresh. Don't just stand frozen and paralyzed when he squeezes your ass!

    Is it blaming the victim to say - stay alert, go armed and be prepared for battle?

    Answer me this, Eagle: If your boss is a gay douchbag and one day he calls you into his office, closes the door and grabs your crotch, what do you do? I would punch him in the face and kick his ass in front of everyone, and, tell everyone why I beat the shit out of my boss. (I do not have anything against gay men, BTW.)

    I am saying the same thing the victims are saying about this - they are saying they should have stood up for themselves.

    We can write laws about putting douchbags in front of a firing squad, but, until women stand up for themselves, nothing will change.
    YOU WOULD GO TO JAIL. YOU WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR PHYSICAL ASSAULT

    Male privilege telling women to commit physical assault so they that are put in jail. Giving Predators something to have physical proof to use against the victim while she has none.

    ONCE AGAIN tell me how we are to know the difference when getting hired from the bad ones from the good ones. EVERY one of those predators have a long history working or creating charities, funding battered women shelters, going on the record for Equality and such.

    How many times did Cosby lecture black men on not to cuss, to pull their pants up, to go to college. How much money did he give to colleges while raping female students, how many buildings did he fund? How many grants did he fund?

    Your advice STILL makes the Victim responsible for predators actions. We are not buying it. You are failing in your blame the victim propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I can tell you who is above the law - the person whose victims are too afraid to seek the protection of the law.

    If you go work for a douchbag, I am not saying your should submit. Why are you putting these words in my mouth?

    I am saying if you go work with a douchbag BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH A DOUCHBAG. That means, have the nerve to stand up for yourself. Don't just stand frozen and 'shocked' that a narcissistic ego-maniac douchbag is acting like a douchbag. If you are a hot young reporter invited to meet Trump alone in his penthouse, first of all - don't agree to meet him in his penthouse! Second, take precautions, and be prepared to slap the man if he becomes fresh. Don't just stand frozen and paralyzed when he squeezes your ass!

    Is it blaming the victim to say - stay alert, go armed and be prepared for battle?

    Answer me this, Eagle: If your boss is a gay douchbag and one day he calls you into his office, closes the door and grabs your crotch, what do you do? I would punch him in the face and kick his ass in front of everyone, and, tell everyone why I beat the shit out of my boss. (I do not have anything against gay men, BTW.)

    I am saying the same thing the victims are saying about this - they are saying they should have stood up for themselves.

    We can write laws about putting douchbags in front of a firing squad, but, until women stand up for themselves, nothing will change.
    Dude! You are looking at this scenario from the perspective of a male. You are asking eagle a hypothetical question most likely he would agree with you - however take into consideration the fact of physical strength advantage most men have over women. Answer this how much you weigh and what is your height? If someone with Floyd Mayweather type fighting skills was your gay boss and grabbed your ass and gave you a look daring you to challenge him - I bet my life savings your ass would be frozen and paralyzed and wouldn't say shit.

    Do your best to pretend to walk in a woman's shoes for a moment.

    #1 Victims of sexual assault are "frozen in fear" because firstly the shit can happen so fast your mind does not have time to process and also on average most men are stronger than women. Some of these men will beat the pulp out of a woman if she dare fight back. If she wants to live to tell her story then sometimes it is in her advantage to play dead so to speak.

    #2 While you argue someone should be prepared to deal with a douche bag - I kind of get what you are saying but if you are equating douchebag with predator that still is putting the blame for predatory behavior on the woman. Why do I, as a woman, have to wake up in the morning put my rape prevention uniform on (cleavage and thighs really sends predators signals) make sure to go to my daily rape prevention defense class, and ensure that I always have a male relative available to escort me ---- this means a vast majority of my time is spent thinking about preventing a rape/sexual harassment all because predatory behavior is minimized in our society. Ridiculous!

    You really don't get that unless someone is charged/convicted of sexual crimes, it is damn near impossible to know who is the predator and who is not.

    Human behavior is not always so predictable as you want to believe. Plenty of manipulative people with no criminal records gain your trust only to rape you one night over drinks and a movie. Not to mention creeps who think indecent exposure is okay - just ask any dancer or cam model who has been sent unsolicited dick pics. And sadly much more.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    YOU WOULD GO TO JAIL. YOU WOULD BE ARRESTED FOR PHYSICAL ASSAULT
    First of all, the douchebag would have to be willing to file charges and be willing to testify about what happened. Most of them would want this embarrassing episode to end quickly and quietly. Worst than you slapping them in the face or kicking them in groin is their wife finding out and divorcing them, and taking them to the cleaners.

    Second, even if the douche was willing to prosecute, PD and the prosecutor would have to decide that this is a case worth prosecuting. Most prosecutors would see this as a potentially loseable self-defense case and not bother with it.

    Third, even if the prosecutor took the case, the jury would not be sympathetic to the douchebag. Jury nullification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Perhaps encourage men/young boys to learn laws regarding CONSENT
    I agree with this and that is one of the biggest problems with our testosterone-driven society that celebrates hyper-aggressive male athletes, executives, politicians, etc. These are not men who are accustomed asking for consent. The men who are celebrated in our society are the hyper-aggressive men for whom "don't take 'no' for an answer" is a mantra.

    We will see what type of men are left standing when all the dust clears. Probably the bespectacled lawyers and accountants who are obsessive-compulsive about following the letter of the law and getting the right kind of permits and consents about everything before embarking on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Dude! You are looking at this scenario from the perspective of a male.

    Do your best to pretend to walk in a woman's shoes for a moment.

    #1 Victims of sexual assault are "frozen in fear" because firstly the shit can happen so fast your mind does not have time to process and also on average most men are stronger than women. Some of these men will beat the pulp out of a woman if she dare fight back. If she wants to live to tell her story then sometimes it is in her advantage to play dead so to speak.
    Predators have zero empathy for the victims , they only make it the victims fault. He came here to bash women. He does NOT feel any sympathy or empathy at all.

    I find it a waste of time trying to make him see it from another perspective. [B]He won't, it is his agenda to get us to blame ourselves & other women for this shit.[/B|


    He feels powerful & thinks if he repeats it & brow beat us over & over again we will declare him right. His ego refuses anything against his narrative. If it is all women's fault than he can do what he wants with zero guilt.

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    Prime example he used the word "ALPHA Males" and "Sexually Aggressive"

    NO, the correct terms are "Predator" and "Sexual Assault, Financial Extortion & Rape".

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    This is nothing new, Jack. Your posts here are not enlightening. I've heard all this garbage before.

    Yeah, women should stand up for themselves, HOWEVER- please consider the power play in sexual assault situations. People don't speak up because their career would be threatened, or like Miss.ap said above, shock is a very real thing that happens. Like a car crash. Sometimes you can't react immediately. I mean seriously, why do we need to explain this to you? Are you really that dense?

    Men get sexually assaulted and shocked and feel powerless as well. Did you hear what happened to Terry Crews? Big, tall, muscular guy felt completely powerless that he was sexually assaulted. Yeah, we should all stand up for ourselves and "be prepared for battle" yada yada.....in theory, sounds like the perfect plan.....until it actually happens to you and there are variables at play that make it difficult or impossible to fight back/ speak up....etc.

    Not to mention....that fighting off sexual assault constantly is fucking exhausting and sometimes you just want to stop fighting. But you could never understand that because you've never been a female or a stripper so.....

    kindly stfu.

    There is no need to blame any victims here. Just stop. Fucking stop and sit down.
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    I'm really trying to not hate all men right now. It gets harder every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post

    We will see what type of men are left standing when all the dust clears. Probably the bespectacled lawyers and accountants who are obsessive-compulsive about following the letter of the law and getting the right kind of permits and consents about everything before embarking on it.
    I think you are thinking in extremes. The men who are left standing = non-predators

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I can tell you who is above the law - the person whose victims are too afraid to seek the protection of the law.

    If you go work for a douchbag, I am not saying your should submit. Why are you putting these words in my mouth?

    I am saying if you go work with a douchbag BE PREPARED TO DEAL WITH A DOUCHBAG. That means, have the nerve to stand up for yourself. Don't just stand frozen and 'shocked' that a narcissistic ego-maniac douchbag is acting like a douchbag. If you are a hot young reporter invited to meet Trump alone in his penthouse, first of all - don't agree to meet him in his penthouse! Second, take precautions, and be prepared to slap the man if he becomes fresh. Don't just stand frozen and paralyzed when he squeezes your ass!

    Is it blaming the victim to say - stay alert, go armed and be prepared for battle?
    Maybe I misunderstood your post. It came across to me as if you were saying that if you choose to work for a douchebag or diva, being treated badly is part of the job.


    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Answer me this, Eagle: If your boss is a gay douchbag and one day he calls you into his office, closes the door and grabs your crotch, what do you do? I would punch him in the face and kick his ass in front of everyone, and, tell everyone why I beat the shit out of my boss. (I do not have anything against gay men, BTW.)
    I would like to think I would take some sort of action, but it's impossible to know without being in such a situation. Terry Crews is a former professional football player. He said that once, an important entertainment exec grabbed his crouch and he didn't do anything about it because he was worried it would hurt his acting career.

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    Jack, seriously, why did you post this? Did you think all the females on this board would read it and be like...."OMG!!! I never considered that! I need to stand up for myself! Listen up women of the world! We don't have to get sexually assaulted ever again! Thanks Jack!"

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    Victim Blaming & "Why Didn't You Fight Back"

    "To this day, survivors of sexual assault still have to deal with these pernicious questions that question the legitimacy of their experiences. These questions show the lack of empathy of the one asking. They also don’t take into account the mental block created by the brain as a defense mechanism when in intensely stressful situations like assault.....The effect is called psychic sideration, but it’s more commonly known as the freeze response. When under attack the body can freeze completely instead of attempting to flee or to fight. It’s a very normal response to traumatic experiences, but isn’t well-known to the general public—leading to questions like.....

    “Why didn’t you try to escape?”
    “Why did you let them do that to your body?”
    “Why didn’t you fight back?”

    "Furthermore, this little-known but very common physical response contradicts our society’s accepted narrative of how a “real” assault plays out. Victims are expected to fight back, call for help, or make attempts to prevent the attack, but the reality is that isn’t how it happens in many situations. This also puts the onus of preventing sexual assault on victims, as opposed to perpetrator where it should be."


    https://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/...ictim-blaming/

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Victim Blaming & "Why Didn't You Fight Back"

    "To this day, survivors of sexual assault still have to deal with these pernicious questions that question the legitimacy of their experiences. These questions show the lack of empathy of the one asking. They also don’t take into account the mental block created by the brain as a defense mechanism when in intensely stressful situations like assault.....The effect is called psychic sideration, but it’s more commonly known as the freeze response. When under attack the body can freeze completely instead of attempting to flee or to fight. It’s a very normal response to traumatic experiences, but isn’t well-known to the general public—leading to questions like.....

    “Why didn’t you try to escape?”
    “Why did you let them do that to your body?”
    “Why didn’t you fight back?”

    "Furthermore, this little-known but very common physical response contradicts our society’s accepted narrative of how a “real” assault plays out. Victims are expected to fight back, call for help, or make attempts to prevent the attack, but the reality is that isn’t how it happens in many situations. This also puts the onus of preventing sexual assault on victims, as opposed to perpetrator where it should be."


    https://thelinknewspaper.ca/article/...ictim-blaming/
    EXCELLENT article that explains the freeze response perfectly. Read it and learn something Jack.
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    If you survived then you did the right thing during the event

    Telling people they did the wrong thing when sexual assault can easily lead to rape & rape and lead to being killed. If you survived then you handled it the right way for that moment.

    Telling people they handled it wrong is a guilt mechanism to help keep victims silent.

    Considering how many times drugs or alcohol was used in situations, telling victims who were forced into a weaker state by the Predator helps keep Predators out of jails.

    Those who did report it, who did speak up were ONLY punished for it. It is a no win situation set up for the victim to fail & feel worse for it.

    These tactics are nothing new & the reasoning of Predators.

    This is psychological war upon those men want to prey upon & the very hostile environments all Women face at every job, every class room, on social media & even in their own homes.
    If Jack is married or has daughters he is grooming them to be the prey for other predators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    Maybe I misunderstood your post. It came across to me as if you were saying that if you choose to work for a douchebag or diva, being treated badly is part of the job.

    I would like to think I would take some sort of action, but it's impossible to know without being in such a situation. Terry Crews is a former professional football player. He said that once, an important entertainment exec grabbed his crouch and he didn't do anything about it because he was worried it would hurt his acting career.
    and look how long it took him to say something, and even then he didn't name names at first.



    and now he says he is facing retaliation, his family is being stalked and followed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by laurielegs View Post
    and look how long it took him to say something, and even then he didn't name names at first.



    and now he says he is facing retaliation, his family is being stalked and followed.
    Has Adam Sanders dropped that agent?

    Has the agency fired that predator?

    Now, this attack happened in a room full of celebrities. How powerful that agent must be & proves it by openly attacking another person? Many predators attack in public & NOTHING happens. We as strippers, cam girls & porn stars have all experienced it. So have many other women, Katie Couric stated that Matt Lauer in front of everyone pinched her ass hard on many of occasions. He wanted her to feel pain, to invade her personal space & prove his power over her every time he did it. His bosses NEVER said a word to him. She complained on the spot & STILL nothing was done about it.


    The assumption that it is just a few men who do it is bullshit. Not when every time we are in public men aggressively hit on us, invade our personal space. The rage & cursing out with the threat of more harm when telling men 'no'. How many men see it & say NOTHING? So if you go to the CEO, the police, HR department we just get more of how it is all our fault. We we are repeatedly told to accept it & move on, not to get so emotional, not to be so sensitive. We have centuries of social conditioning & punishment for fighting back.

    Yes, all men are complicit. Yes, all men. Those who have declared yourselves Heros, Alpha, Boss, Husband, Boyfriend, protector............ All of you throw women & children under the bus & emotionally, physically, financially & sexually abuse us. You use your strength, money & power aka any means possible to get what you want. You declare us gold diggers while denying us better pay & jobs.


    Sex workers are more onto how unfair it is more than everyone else who is waking up to reality,

    When women in any industry are attacked on social media, it is other women who come to their defense. It isn't their male colleagues or bosses. When female sex workers are attacked on social media it isn't men or even gay men who stand up to those who are slut shaming us or threatening us with rape or death.

    The world is NOW a different place, we are going to be bolder, louder, sue you for money you cost us. Get used to us demanding EQUALITY! Change your predatory ways or feel us getting justice in the only ways we have available to us now.

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    Men are finally in a small part being held accountable, while their victims were punished who did nothing wrong.

    It is amazing to see how they are raising all kinds of hell & crying victim. How many of them jump to defend men who admitted to doing this shit. Still declaring all women liars & out for revenge. It is NOT revenge it is JUSTICE.

    NONE of these men had a problem with so many women being harmed, just if ONE guy gets falsely accused. Yes, protect that ONE maybe innocent guy while millions of innocent women are punished. Why does ONE man deserve the sacrifice of so many women?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    Jack, seriously, why did you post this? Did you think all the females on this board would read it and be like...."OMG!!! I never considered that! I need to stand up for myself! Listen up women of the world! We don't have to get sexually assaulted ever again! Thanks Jack!"

    fucking eye roll.
    Because, I am shocked that people are shocked about this - acting like they had no clue that high-powered men feel a sense of entitlement to treat women (and men) with a total lack of respect.

    I thought women in the gentleman's club industry would agree that this is nothing new or worth being shocked about. You ladies see these high-powered men and know what they are really about, even the church-going family men, and even pastors. Give a guy some power and status and he feels entitled.

    Then, the second part, is what to do about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    EXCELLENT article that explains the freeze response perfectly. Read it and learn something Jack.
    So let's not do anything then, because, it is INEVITABLE that victims will freeze during sexual harassment or sexual assault, then feel ashamed, and not report the assault... The more shocking and horrific the incident is, the greater the freeze response to guaranty a submissive victim?

    That is great news for the douchebags and predators of the world!

    The freeze response can be overcome with self defense training. When you train, your mind does not freeze, it goes on autopilot - it says to itself, I am being attacked, but, I've trained for this, so, I know what to do. You react so fast, you don't even know what just happened. Did I just do that? Did I just break his nose and kick him in the balls. He is on the ground crying and there is no one else around, so yes, you did that.

    How does it help to tell the younger generation of women that they should expect to freeze up during sexual assault or sexual harassment? Women should take self-defense classes and training should include non-violent sexual harassment - train young girls to have a auto response to inappropriate situations. It does not have to be a violent response, it can be merely saying, "No!" in a loud voice and walking away.

    I get that we should not blame the victims and I apologize if I come across as doing that. It's not right, I know. I have people very close to me that have been victims. But, we should learn from all this - DON'T BE SHOCKED WHEN IT HAPPENS - BE READY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Because, I am shocked that people are shocked about this - acting like they had no clue that high-powered men feel a sense of entitlement to treat women (and men) with a total lack of respect.
    You are not shocked because you relate to entitled males. You are not shocked because instead of expecting better behavior of males you are dismissive of this behavior and telling women we should just expect predatory behavior from all men.

    There are plenty of entitled disrespectful people - are all of them sex abusers? Not specifically.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I thought women in the gentleman's club industry would agree that this is nothing new or worth being shocked about. You ladies see these high-powered men and know what they are really about, even the church-going family men, and even pastors. Give a guy some power and status and he feels entitled.
    Um. Ladies consent to working in adult industry - they do not consent to being sexually assaulted on the job. I'd expect a high powered CEO to respect my human rights that I am entitled to just as I would expect the same from the average Joe Blow.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post

    So let's not do anything then, because, it is INEVITABLE that victims will freeze during sexual harassment or sexual assault, then feel ashamed, and not report the assault... The more shocking and horrific the incident is, the greater the freeze response to guaranty a submissive victim?

    That is great news for the douchebags and predators of the world!

    The freeze response can be overcome with self defense training. When you train, your mind does not freeze, it goes on autopilot - it says to itself, I am being attacked, but, I've trained for this, so, I know what to do. You react so fast, you don't even know what just happened. Did I just do that? Did I just break his nose and kick him in the balls. He is on the ground crying and there is no one else around, so yes, you did that.

    How does it help to tell the younger generation of women that they should expect to freeze up during sexual assault or sexual harassment? Women should take self-defense classes and training should include non-violent sexual harassment - train young girls to have a auto response to inappropriate situations. It does not have to be a violent response, it can be merely saying, "No!" in a loud voice and walking away.

    I get that we should not blame the victims and I apologize if I come across as doing that. It's not right, I know. I have people very close to me that have been victims. But, we should learn from all this - DON'T BE SHOCKED WHEN IT HAPPENS - BE READY!
    No one is saying NOT do anything.

    What IS being said is you never know how your mind/body will react to traumatic situations. It's very easy to sit on a throne of privilege (never having experienced someone violate you) and tell people who HAVE been violated how they should have responded but until you have been sexually assaulted/raped/violated a predatory situation could go down completely opposite of how you are envisioning.

    Yes having self-defense skills are beneficial but that is nothing for the predator with a gun/knife/etc who shoots/stabs/etc immobilized you in some manner before you can lay hands on him.

    You also forget that there are adults victimizing little children and babies who aren't even old enough to protect themselves.

    If saying NO were that simple in deterring predators and rapists then half these crimes would never occur (according to your theory) and you just said above that plenty of predators ain't taking No for an answer.

    I'm sure you'd be ready to "just say no" and "break a nose" when a predator comes at you with a gun an demands you givin up that ass today!

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    DON'T BE SHOCKED WHEN IT HAPPENS - BE READY!
    This is one of the dumbest thing you have said all day. Tell that to the toddlers/toddlers parents when a rapists rapes them. Tell that to the parents of 6 year old in India gang raped who died of her injuries.
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