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    OMG DONT be Shocked when it happens to you ladies... He is declaring all men predators & will eventually sexual & financially try to harm us repeatedly............. so shut up & just take it or NEVER get a job because it will always be a possibility.


    NO, you are SHOCKED Jack that so many of you are being held accountable & fired. You are the one is shock that is happens so much & by many you have idolized.


    You are in shock that female & male victims are demanding to be heard, demanding to be believed.

    Do NOT get it twisted.......... You & all males are in shock & scared that your evil is coming back to bite you on the ass.


    You came here to get those who deal with it as a major part of job to agree that it is okay & blame women for it. You are the one trying to twist it & make us turn against other women in other industries. You are the one who wants us to help dox the victims for you.

    Now, while many of those women didn't have our backs, I am NOT turning on them like you want me too. I am not in the sex industry for you to be a weapon againsst other women. Anytime I've confronted women in the tech industry who wanted to blame us, it took me 3 tweets or less to show them that men treat us all the same and it is the same fight for all of us. Now they often tweet & retweet me.

    Be scared, women are uniting. Sex workers around the world are networking & forming groups to change the laws & fight all this misogyny & sexism. Denying us equality will no longer be tolerated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    Because, I am shocked that people are shocked about this - acting like they had no clue that high-powered men feel a sense of entitlement to treat women (and men) with a total lack of respect.

    I thought women in the gentleman's club industry would agree that this is nothing new or worth being shocked about. You ladies see these high-powered men and know what they are really about, even the church-going family men, and even pastors. Give a guy some power and status and he feels entitled.

    Then, the second part, is what to do about it?



    So let's not do anything then, because, it is INEVITABLE that victims will freeze during sexual harassment or sexual assault, then feel ashamed, and not report the assault... The more shocking and horrific the incident is, the greater the freeze response to guaranty a submissive victim?

    That is great news for the douchebags and predators of the world!

    The freeze response can be overcome with self defense training. When you train, your mind does not freeze, it goes on autopilot - it says to itself, I am being attacked, but, I've trained for this, so, I know what to do. You react so fast, you don't even know what just happened. Did I just do that? Did I just break his nose and kick him in the balls. He is on the ground crying and there is no one else around, so yes, you did that.

    How does it help to tell the younger generation of women that they should expect to freeze up during sexual assault or sexual harassment? Women should take self-defense classes and training should include non-violent sexual harassment - train young girls to have a auto response to inappropriate situations. It does not have to be a violent response, it can be merely saying, "No!" in a loud voice and walking away.

    I get that we should not blame the victims and I apologize if I come across as doing that. It's not right, I know. I have people very close to me that have been victims. But, we should learn from all this - DON'T BE SHOCKED WHEN IT HAPPENS - BE READY!
    Who said they were shocked by all this? I'm certainly not shocked, and that is fucking sad. To have the mindset that high-powered men are sexual predators by nature and that it isn't shocking.....that's really sad and twisted. But it is what it is. I do have some self defense training, but that only covers some bases. Like I said before, in some situations it can be difficult to retaliate. If I actually got violent in the club in response to being sexually assaulted, I might be thrown in jail. Who's side are the cops going to be on? The stripper who got sexually assaulted, or the male patron who claims he didn't do anything? I mean, come on. Society isn't exactly on our side as strippers/ sex workers.

    And dude, I don't need you to fucking tell me to be ready to fight off sexual assault at any given moment. I ALREADY AM FUCKING PREPARED. I've dealt with this shit so many times before you have no fucking idea. So get off your high horse. This is the reality I deal with, not you. Just typing this shit is giving me PTSD so I'm out of this thread. I'm going to go make myself feel better now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletKitten View Post
    I do have some self defense training, but that only covers some bases.
    Exactly my point - while having self defense training (hell even weapon training) is way better than nothing at all ------ a true manipulative predator will try to immobilize you BEFORE you can apply any karate, before you reach for any weapon, or whatnot.

    OP is so simple in his thinking he is not accounting for situations like
    -gang rapes
    -covert druggings
    -marital rapes
    -adults raping elderly/young kids
    -etc.

    OH BUT They should have been prepared though.....

    FOH!

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    fucking face palm. some dick on a stripper site trying to tell me to be prepared. like no shit....REALLY?!?!?!!!!! omg what a thought~ it had never occurred to me.....duhhhhhh.

    A stripper's job half the time is being in defensive/ protective mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I agree with this and that is one of the biggest problems with our testosterone-driven society that celebrates hyper-aggressive male athletes, executives, politicians, etc. These are not men who are accustomed asking for consent. The men who are celebrated in our society are the hyper-aggressive men for whom "don't take 'no' for an answer" is a mantra.

    We will see what type of men are left standing when all the dust clears. Probably the bespectacled lawyers and accountants who are obsessive-compulsive about following the letter of the law and getting the right kind of permits and consents about everything before embarking on it.
    You're making baseless accusations against a group of people, just because of their wealth and/or position. Just because someone is a great athlete, actor, or businessman doesn't mean they're anymore likely to sexually assault or harass someone than any other man. Just ask any attractive female who's had to walk past a construction site. Maybe it seems like it's mostly rich and powerful men who do it, because those are the cases reported in the news, but there are plenty of women who've had to deal with sexual assault or harassment from average middle or lower class men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I'm certainly not saying I condone the bad acts that have brought down so many high-profile 'alpha' men, but, it shocks me that people are shocked about this bahavior
    I think that has more to do with what kind of people you're around, no one I know has been shocked by any of these allegations.

    Quote Originally Posted by jack0177057 View Post
    I think a lot of women who go work for these aggressive 'alpha' men should have known what to expect and should have prepared themselves better. Like, if I go work for a diva (pop star, celebrity, etc.) and she treats me like shit, nobody is going to sympathize with me, because, everyone know that is to be expected from a diva. I made the choice to work for a diva, so I subjected myself to her abuse. If you work for a diva, you can expect to be treated like garbage now and again, and, you need to draw the line where you will say enough-is-enough, even if it means losing your job.
    You're assuming that all of these women who were sexually harassed by their bosses knew full-well ahead-of-time that these guys were predators and perverts. I don't think that can be assumed. Let's say you go work for a female celebrity that you've never heard anything bad about---and then she ends up being a complete tyrant and throws cellphones at you? I don't think it's uncommon for an employee to not know a lot of personal information about their prospective employers.

    I understand what you're saying because I'm all for personal accountability and it drives me nuts when I see people put themselves in the dumbest situations and then freak the fuck out and cry 'victim' when it inevitably blows up in their faces, but I don't have any reason to assume that that's what has happened in these situations that you're referencing.

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    Know who needs to be prepared? Men

    Before Corporations bought sexual harassment insurance policies to protect Predators. They fired & helped dig up dirty to make victims out to look like liars & discredit them. Stock holders will want a forensic accounting of all money paid out to protect Predators.

    HR departments are being called upon for those who have the most & worst complaints on file.

    If fired or stepped down & married due to sexual harassment or rape.. Plenty of wives will use that in a divorce to get HUGE settlements they deserve. Cause if you are a bully at work then you are a bully at home & now she has REAL evidence of it.

    Be prepared for lawsuits of past victims wanting settlements they deserve.

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    What has changed in that makes it harder to hide. Social media & victims being able to connect with other victims instead of being told it was just a one time thing.

    Mobile phones, this is revenge of the Dick Pics & sexually explicit text men send to women with ZERO invite to do so. It is actual proof in our emails, text messages of what we deal with all the time.

    Men need to be prepared for all their dirty secrets to be made public. Been saying it for 5 years now there are NO more secrets.

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    I simply cannot relate, a diva would never throw a phone at me because she would know I would swat it and break it.

    Growing up I always stood up to bullies, I was always bigger than my peers, but much older kids were definitely bigger than me. All it took was standing up in their face and all of a sudden the situation was defused.

    That is why I enjoy seeing Weinstein getting crushed, he is just a bully and people are finally standing up to him, even after the fact.

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    Sorry, ladies, I know I'm new, but I can't just lurk this thread anymore. Jack, did you really just tell us to be ready when it happens like we haven't been ready for it every single day since the moment we grew boobs? I was nearly abducted when I was twelve by some upper middle class looking pervert. I know these men lurk everywhere. They lurk in places you can't even believe. I've BEEN READY. Classic mansplaining, but color me surprised.

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    I tried to read the first post.

    “We all know men are pigs”

    “Why are we shocked... I mean obvi we are abusive douchebags”

    “But what even is abusive douchebaggery? What is this “sexual harrassment?” Interacting with women is becoming so complicated”

    “Every reply gives me 1 boner”

    Did I sum that up correctly?

    Jack, you are arguing about sexual harrassment with women who are regularly sexually harrassed. I don’t understand the point other than to get attention. You can’t possibly believe the only way for society to handle this issue is for women to accept it and say “no” loudly to their abusers. Should I carry mace and a rape whistle to work, just in case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seashell View Post
    I tried to read the first post.

    “We all know men are pigs”

    “Why are we shocked... I mean obvi we are abusive douchebags”

    “But what even is abusive douchebaggery? What is this “sexual harrassment?” Interacting with women is becoming so complicated”

    “Every reply gives me 1 boner”

    Did I sum that up correctly?

    Jack, you are arguing about sexual harrassment with women who are regularly sexually harrassed. I don’t understand the point other than to get attention. You can’t possibly believe the only way for society to handle this issue is for women to accept it and say “no” loudly to their abusers. Should I carry mace and a rape whistle to work, just in case?
    OMG, can I thank this post, like a million times?^.
    Seriously, you come on a forum for women sex workers w/this shit? Alrighty then

    Actually, I'd like to carry a gun everywhere, but then I'd end up in jail so..

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post
    OMG, can I thank this post, like a million times?^.
    Seriously, you come on a forum for women sex workers w/this shit? Alrighty then

    Actually, I'd like to carry a gun everywhere, but then I'd end up in jail so..
    Have a friend that a man tried to run off the road & rape her at gun point. She shot him, guess who ended up in jail? She did because he only had a knife.

    So we can NOT legally protect ourselves unless it with the same type of weapon the Rapist is using

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlerz View Post

    Actually, I'd like to carry a gun everywhere, but then I'd end up in jail so..
    Move to Texas, get a license to carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Move to Texas, get a license to carry.
    Pokey. What about the Snakes tho?

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    If you don't keep poultry you have nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Move to Texas, get a license to carry.
    My friend had a license to carry. IT was that license & the fact she took a gun safety class used against her in the court room. How she should have known how to de-esculate the situation without it. He tried to kill her by running her off the road & then pulled a knife on her so he could rape her.

    He was the victim in the eyes of the law. She was a stripper so what did she expect.
    Ladies I do adore you,but the snakes thing on such important threads........... really?

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    Wow. I wonder what the OP has to say about her "being prepared" yet still being victimized not just by that creep but also by the "justice" system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    My friend had a license to carry. IT was that license & the fact she took a gun safety class used against her in the court room. How she should have known how to de-esculate the situation without it. He tried to kill her by running her off the road & then pulled a knife on her so he could rape her.

    He was the victim in the eyes of the law. She was a stripper so what did she expect.
    Ladies I do adore you,but the snakes thing on such important threads........... really?
    Important?
    Maybe the gun thing yes, but some jerk being offensive to women on a women's forum (even though it's the general section, regardless it's offensive)
    I didn't care for a couple of your recent posts either but I left it alone, til now.

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    Why do you feel the need to post about snakes on every single thread on this site?
    To derail numerous threads for your mere amusement.

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    ^Yeah, seriously, the snakes thing is annoying. It's complete overkill and not funny at all, and it does derail the threads. How many times are ya'll going to go back and forth with this snake bullshit?


    Anyway....noone is shocked that men are pieces of shit who like to violate women's boundaries. They have no respect for women whatsoever. They may pretend they do, but it's all a game to them.....to get what they want. But I don't trust a single man on this planet anymore. Sad, eh?
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    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...=top-news&_r=1

    Here is the first paragraph describing what it is like for women who work at the Ford Plants
    ----------------------------------------
    Bosses and fellow laborers treated them as property or prey. Men crudely commented on their breasts and buttocks. Graffiti of penises was carved into tables, spray-painted onto floors and scribbled onto walls. They groped women, pressed against them, simulated sex acts or masturbated in front of them. Supervisors traded better assignments for sex and punished those who refused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    My friend had a license to carry. IT was that license & the fact she took a gun safety class used against her in the court room. How she should have known how to de-esculate the situation without it. He tried to kill her by running her off the road & then pulled a knife on her so he could rape her.
    Really? A lawyer would like to throw shit on the wall to see what sticks. Like "you not suppose to modify your trigger and stuff." I don't care what the lawyer wants to say, I am a weak female. I am afraid of being raped and killed, therefore the only thing prevents me from being assaulted is my gun. Yes, I am put in a situation that I have no way to retreat , no other choice but to kill the guy. " It's my tactical training saved my life."
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    Women go to jail all the time after killing their attacker. Especially in spousal abuse cases.

    Can NOT assume the law is fair & just, there are many times where it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Have a friend that a man tried to run off the road & rape her at gun point. She shot him, guess who ended up in jail? She did because he only had a knife.

    So we can NOT legally protect ourselves unless it with the same type of weapon the Rapist is using
    I know someone who was assaulted by a man in his home. She sprayed him with mace. He called the police on her, and she was the one who ended up getting arrested.

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    I want fairness, justice & equal protection under the law. Equality for all woman, equal pay & fair playing field for men & women. How unfair all the odds that are stacked against us is coming out.

    How women in every industry are treated just the same as we are & being the good girl who followed all the rules did not protect them at all.

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