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    Default 11,000 rape kits finally get tested & over 800 serial rapist Identified

    https://www.freep.com/story/opinion/...oit/953083001/

    Ten thousand rape kits tested. One hundred twenty-seven convictions won, 1,947 cases investigated, 817 serial rapists identified.
    It's been a long eight years for Wayne County
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    Victims do come forward, they do what the law requires. They went to the police for justice & got NONE.
    STOP blaming one victim for all other rapes that happen after them when they do NOT report it. Especially when law enforcement refuses to test rape kits & really investigate those cases.

    817 serial rapist in ONE county. So when you call a victim a liar, when you shame them by telling them it didn't happen because they didnt go to the police. You ONLY help protect rapist when you offer up a solution that DOES NOT work. As if reporting rapes actually get serial rapist off the streets.

    By all means, keep making a fool of yourself by telling women we are overly sensitive and all rape victims have a grudge about a relationship gone wrong. Know where it went wrong? When the guy raped her.

    There are STILL 400,000 that have not been tested. So how many more serial rapist gone free for decades to rape & rape again.

    This proves women are NOT equal when we do NOT get equal protection under the law. Women & children are the targets of most male predators.
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    Default Re: 11,000 rape kits finally get tested & over 800 serial rapist Identified

    I fucking hate it when the victim gets blamed for what the rapist does. DON'T BLAME THE VICTIM. BLAME THE ABUSER!!! THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS!

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    Default Re: 11,000 rape kits finally get tested & over 800 serial rapist Identified

    Is this just a problem in Detroit or all across the country because if its the latter then Now I'm convinced America is quite similar to how they treat women in Middle Eastern/Asian countries.

    America Covertly allowing rapes to occur. While places like India just do that shit out in the open. Gang raping women on public buses n shit.

    But what is also fucked up is certain types of people are swept under the rug and not considered to be victims or their credibility is diminished because of their personal life (career field, economic status, etc) or things about them they cannot control (gender, race, etc)

    "I can use Detroit as an example, 86% of our victims in these untested kits are people of color. You're not going to find too many blond-haired, blue eyed white women ... Because their kits are treated differently, their cases are solved. That's just the way it is in this country. If you're a person of color, if you're a different economic class, then your case across the board, across the board, not just sexual assault — they're treated differently. And that's just the truth. People may not want to admit it, but I've seen it throughout my career and I know it's true ... It's just true. ... Race is at the center of this in many ways as well, unfortunately, we know that across the criminal justice system. ..."
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    I hope they all sue the city, county & State for discrimination, for not having equal protection under the law, for aiding & abetting criminals

    It is a scam for those test to cost a $1000 each to be done. Especially when the Federal Gov is spending $40,000 per person to a head hunting firm for 5000 border patrol officers. Border patrol officers are quitting left & right because they refuse to obey order that are against the Human Rights Act from the U.N. $40,000 just to find people to take that job..... Considering we do NOT have a problem with people illegally crossing the border for better life. Mexico has a problem with OLD White Americans illegally taking up residence there to retire.

    It is racist.
    It is the U.S. Gov on all levels being a KKK criminal institution.

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    Default Re: 11,000 rape kits finally get tested & over 800 serial rapist Identified

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    Is this just a problem in Detroit or all across the country because if its the latter then Now I'm convinced America is quite similar to how they treat women in Middle Eastern/Asian countries.

    America Covertly allowing rapes to occur. While places like India just do that shit out in the open. Gang raping women on public buses n shit.

    But what is also fucked up is certain types of people are swept under the rug and not considered to be victims or their credibility is diminished because of their personal life (career field, gender, race, economic status, etc)

    "I can use Detroit as an example, 86% of our victims in these untested kits are people of color. You're not going to find too many blond-haired, blue eyed white women ... Because their kits are treated differently, their cases are solved. That's just the way it is in this country. If you're a person of color, if you're a different economic class, then your case across the board, across the board, not just sexual assault — they're treated differently. And that's just the truth. People may not want to admit it, but I've seen it throughout my career and I know it's true ... It's just true. ... Race is at the center of this in many ways as well, unfortunately, we know that across the criminal justice system. ..."
    What you just said is one of the reasons why the serial killer called "the grim sleeper" was active for so long killing women in Los Angeles. The actual police though Lonnie Franklin (the grim sleeper) was doing them a favor because he was killing black drug addicted sex workers.

    In law enforcement all lives don't have the same value.

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    Ironically this was a similar theme in the other thread when that dude implied he thought victims should "just say no loudly" or "punch them in the nose" or "don't stand frozen and paralyzed"

    Even a woman in that thread co-signed that dude and was like she hates when people cry victim and should take responsibility for putting themselves in a situation to be raped/assaulted/etc.?!?

    So according to these people's faulty thinking if you don't apply black belt level karate, if you don't act like you are visibly upset, if you become intoxicated (not to mention the predator could have date rape drugged), if you work in adult industry, etc then you are not a victim and should take responsibility for being assaulted, etc.

    Excerpt from that article....

    "We reviewed many many police reports where the officers dismissed (victims) because they didn't act the way they thought they should act."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    What you just said is one of the reasons why the serial killer called "the grim sleeper" was active for so long killing women in Los Angeles. The actual police though Lonnie Franklin (the grim sleeper) was doing them a favor because he was killing black drug addicted sex workers.

    In law enforcement all lives don't have the same value.
    That's exactly what that Daniel Holtzclaw serial rapist was doing too. He was trolling poor black communities raping women who he knew would be less likely to be believed/helped if they reported him.

    The reason they were able to catch his dumb ass was because this fool was (of course abusing his power) using his police squad car and still in uniform. They tracked his wherabouts via the cars GPS and were able to corroborate most of the women's stories. He also raped an underage teen and they found his DNA on her clothing.

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    Law enforcement does NOT care about any of our lives. They only care about blue lives.

    They are the SS. Killing of unarmed citizens is UP. Shooting people who are co-operating & do NOT have a weapon is on the rise. Remember they have the permission of the President to rough up criminals on the way to jail. They took that as a direct order to beat up & kill people without a trial & judge & jury. They are determining innocence & guilt on the street.

    If a gang or mob organization was raping, killing & stealing as much as law enforcement does it would be declared a National Criminal Organization & a National Crisis.

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-usa/29902199/

    "The records reveal widespread inconsistency in how police handle rape evidence from agency to agency, and even officer to officer. Some departments test every rape kit. Others send as few as two in 10 to crime labs."

    "Decades of promises from politicians, and more than $1 billion in federal funding, has failed to fix the problems. The roughly $1,000 cost to analyze each kit is among the hindrances for police."

    "Authorities at all levels of government are failing to quantify the problem. At least 50 major law enforcement agencies — from Montgomery, Ala., to Reno, Nev. — have never counted the untested rape kits in their evidence rooms. Most states haven't undertaken an inventory."

    "The U.S. Department of Justice is failing to comply with a 2013 law that was meant to get more rape kits tested and set national protocols for processing sexual assault evidence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam38g View Post
    Law enforcement does NOT care about any of our lives. They only care about blue lives.

    They are the SS. Killing of unarmed citizens is UP. Shooting people who are co-operating & do NOT have a weapon is on the rise. Remember they have the permission of the President to rough up criminals on the way to jail. They took that as a direct order to beat up & kill people without a trial & judge & jury. They are determining innocence & guilt on the street.

    If a gang or mob organization was raping, killing & stealing as much as law enforcement does it would be declared a National Criminal Organization & a National Crisis.
    Surprisingly this Holtzclaw dude end up convicted and in prison for life. http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/21/us/okl...ing/index.html

    However it took damn near every women he assaulted (plus their communities plus nation wide media attention) coming forward and speaking out against this sick criminal abusing his power as an enforcement officer of the law.

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    That's good that they're finally testing the rape kits but it's too little, too late. Detroit is a fucking joke, I know from experience. Cops don't care about anything other than themselves. They find a way to blame what happened on you with their dumb questions like,"What were YOU doing to provoke him? Were you flirting with him? So, you got him all hot and bothered and changed your mind at the last minute, right? What were you wearing?" It makes my blood boil and I have zero trust or faith in cops. My rapist is still out there on the streets, likely doing the same thing to other women because cops rather victim blame than actually go after the rapists. It is bullshit.

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    Rape kits are only being tested due to charity donations, NOT the county or city paying for it.

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    You can see from my posts on here how my thoughts have changed as I have learned this information. Most of us never see this garbage going on, so we think it doesn't exist. I literally said, "why don't you go to the police?" and several members had to school me on how that seldom works, and how they are treated like shit by police. I've now learned, or rather confirmed, via the Weinstein rapes and information like the above that there are very bad members of society, 95% men, who operate right under our noses.

    I now see that my inaction was part of the problem, but like many men I'm not really sure what to do next other than be way more vigilant. I was in Dublin a few months ago, in a trendy bar called the Black Piano or something like that, and I had invited a few of my colleagues. When I told the bartender that some women were coming to meet me he actually said, "and they'll be leaving without their clothes, hehe". I looked at him in complete confusion, like what does that even mean? but he sat there with a stupid smile on his face. In the past, I'd have ignored him, but now I was like, you're a bartender, you're supposed to care for your women customers. But I didn't say anything, and it made me angry at myself all night. One of my colleagues thought he was handsome, and kept saying stuff about him, and I had to play the fuddy duddy and say "keep away from that guy, trust me".

    This whole thing is like an open wound that victims have been carrying in secret for years, and we have to face it and heal it carefully.
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    Thank you, Bahuba.
    Your words mean a lot to me. Imagine if more men spoke up & said "Soooo, not cool dude. Please, get your manager." How your friends and co-workers are not coming there to be prey but to have fun in a safe environment.

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    At 17 I had to file charges of sexual harassment against the police in the town where I was going to college. I had to leave my apt an half hour early each day because I knew that police would set up the same spot & my only route to work. A different one would pull me over everyday. If I was late to work the boss would threaten to fire me. Now, I worked at a BBQ place called the 'Pig Pit'. Where he gave them all a 50% discount.

    I worked 7 days a week, went to college full time & barely could afford my rent & food.

    Went to the police station & demanded to talk to the Sheriff. Told him I wanted to file sexual harassment charges. He asked against who..... "ALL OF THEM". Sheriff replied "OHHHHHHH, so you're that girl." Lucky for me, his son was there & a good friend of mine. He happened to be in the office with his Dad.

    Sheriff told me no need to file actual charges it would stop immediately.

    Imagine being 17, broke, all on your own being sexually harassed by police who set up a road block daily. And I know that I am a lucky one because I didn't get raped by them. They are lucky because it never occurred to me to tell my Mom.

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    Thank you, I greatly appreciate it. Mainly I remember being mad. Walked into that police station all kinds of pissed off. I'm sure ya'll can imagine the lecture i gave the Sheriff. His reply throw me off & just made me more mad.

    Looking back at it after all this time, I realize just how lucky I was. They were testing my boundaries to see just how far they could get away with it. These men as officers of the law, targeted a 17 yr old as a group. They were all predators.

    We all grow up to believe in fairness & justice. Grow up with the belief if we go to the cops they will protect & get us justice. It isn't true. Which is why when people tell women you are lying because you didn't go to the police. OR tell them how other people could have been saved if they did. It is a lie all predators & rapist know is a joke. They can dismiss any allegation with he has never been convicted of rape so she is a liar.

    When we read that story about Detroit & how so many rape kits are never tested. Literally, there are sooooooooooooo many serial rapist who never go to jail.

    Men do not understand every man we met & every where we go. We have to assume they are a rapist. IT isn't paranoia but a reality. Their buddy, their boss, the bartender could be a rapist. And if you can't easily tell a rapist from a friend than how are we supposed to do it?

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    I just checked the stats for where i live ............ and shocked to find this is here too?!? WTF! It's not just a Detroit problem, its everywhere?

    I've even seen how hospitals are charging women/rape victims astronomical fees for hospital visits/rape kits

    Bills were recommended to shorten the time rape kits are processed - it was turned down by lawmakers

    This is ridiculous!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I just checked the stats for where i live ............ and shocked to find this is here too?!? WTF! It's not just a Detroit problem, its everywhere?

    I've even seen how hospitals are charging women/rape victims astronomical fees for hospital visits/rape kits

    Bills were recommended to shorten the time rape kits are processed - it was turned down by lawmakers

    This is ridiculous!!!
    Jesús. I thought it was just a Detroit problem. Hopefully it will become a big enough issue that more politicians lose their job.

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    It is a problem all across the U.S. We cant count on 90% male politicians to resolve this issue. Especially since they have NOT done anything about it till now.

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    And my husband (who went ahead and reported my case) wonders why I didn't (and still don't) trust the cops... I get that he was trying to help me, but I just have a bad feeling about this. All victims (whether male or female, rich or poor, sex worker or not, religious or atheist) get shamed in some way. It's likely the court is going to be on my rapist's side while thinking I'm nothing but a hoe that lead him on. The questions I got asked by the sheriffs were victim blaming as well. "Is he a side guy?" "Why were you out with a guy at night if you're married?"

    I wouldn't be surprised if my kit still remains untouched.

    I mostly had guy friends during high school and it was no big deal. But now I've become very suspicious and wary of guys who try to befriend me. Even before the guy that assaulted me, the last few guys that tried to be friends and asked to hang out for lunch/dinner were just trying to get at me and had no intention of forming a friendship. After one stalker and a rapist, I've learned to not be too nice to people. The topics of male entitlement and rape culture aren't "just SJW/radical feminist nonsense". There are people out there who use power to control and intimidate others, in this case abusive men to women. The cops and most of society don't believe victims. It makes me want to workout, learn some type of self-defence, learn to use a weapon (gun, knife) and carry it with me to protect myself because nobody will protect me or do anything when bad things happen.

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    15 years ago my wife was working late and a co-worker attacked her. She stuck a pen into his leg and ran to the police, called me and we confronted the guy and he said it was just flirting and she was nuts. She eventually left her job due to the way she was viewed by others, especially the women at work. The police did not help us at all. I eventually had a face to face with the prick which made me feel better even as the cops questioned me afterwards about how his arm and jaw were broken. (he fell) Afterwards my wife took Krav Magra classes until she died so she wouldn't feel helpless again. I don't know if it would have helped but it did help her self confidence and street awareness.

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    Default Re: 11,000 rape kits finally get tested & over 800 serial rapist Identified

    So just like every other crime...
    A small number of people cause a large percentage of the problem...

    Can we start using chemical castration as a punishment?

    On a side note, Police are spending all their time worrying about pot, and never spend much time on any other case..

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