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    Domestic violence, abduction and violating an order of protection, I found in his background: reported it to management, they said they will have a meeting to decided whether or not to keep him around.

    When I first met him I knew he looked familiar...then I figured it out. He contacted me on social media 4 years ago. I almost met him in person since he seemed like a nice guy, then I googled him and found out the above charges. Fast forward...he’s now a floorguy at the club I work at. I’m just so shocked. He was found not guilty, but another girl complained to management that she thought he was following her when she left work. I haven’t been back and waiting to find out how they handle the situation.
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    Ugh!!!!!

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    Default Re: floorguy has a criminal past

    I would not go back until this guy is gone! I hope your managers protected your anonymity so that he doesn’t know who told them. Protect yourself and take all safety precautions! Find another club to work at in the mean time maybe. You did the right thing though

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    Default Re: floorguy has a criminal past

    In fairness, if he was found not guilty then the club does not have the right to not hire him over it. It sounds to me like all of those charges probably stem from one bad relationship and he was probably arrested and charged at once for all 3 offenses. I agree you did do the right thing by reporting what you knew.

    I am not trying to defend the guy- just know sometimes there's more to it. One of my exes was charged with kidnapping because he was arguing with an ex and wouldn't let her out of the car; however he was DRIVING and didn't want to let her out in the streets of a bad part of town at 3:00 in the morning. They had a really bad history of fighting and cops getting involved. At that time he had an order of protection against him but she willingly got in the car with him...so....I dated the guy for 2 and a half years on and off and he never so much as raised his voice to me. Not blaming his ex-girlfriend either; just saying some people are toxic together and there's usually 2 sides to every story- especially when the government is involved.

    As far as the other dancer claiming he was following her- was that after you went around telling everyone how he had been arrested yet found innocent of these crimes? Is it possible you put a bug in her ear or maybe he lives in the same direction as her?

    Maybe I am being partial because I know what it is like to be accused of something you didn't do before and what it is to have the past come up and cause problems.

    Does this guy give you any other signs he is dangerous? You said he seemed like a nice enough guy you were almost willing to meet him in public.
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    Actually I didn’t go around telling everyone I only told the people who are higher up in management. The district manager was the one who told me the other girl reported him, I knew nothing about it. Actually anyone can be fired for any reason in the state dance in, shitty law but legally they don’t need a reason to fire anyone.
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    Default Re: floorguy has a criminal past

    What made you want to look up his history? And how do you know his full name?

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    Because he was a guy that contacted me online 4 years ago wanting me to meet him. So I looked up his first and last name in google since I don’t typically meet men online, just to be cautious and make sure he was who he said he was. Then I noticed his mugshot popped up in google images. I mean it wasn’t hard to find at all...4 years later he’s a floorman at my club.
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    Default Re: floorguy has a criminal past

    Just re-read the post my bad. But I wouldn’t jump the gun unless you’re really worried he would do something to you. Let them figure it out. And avoid him.

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    Oh I know I’m just not going back unless they take care of the situation. I haven’t told any other girls or staff just management
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    I'd be careful around him and try to get him out of there, asap! Men with violent histories should NOT be managing women (or being floor guys, bouncers, etc), especially if it's a club that serves alcohol. A few years ago before I switched clubs, I was working at a club that got a new manager. He was like 300 lbs and the housemom hated him and would always tell me he was on steroids (I don't doubt that, as well as some other substances).

    So one night, two extras girls were mad at me literally because I led the chart in dances and neither of them had made any money so they threatened to jump me in the dressing room before my friend got upstairs. They were pussy ass bitches, they were all talk... But the new manager had worked with them before at the dirtiest clubs, he knew them, so he stormed in and immediately ran up to me ME (I was like 105 lbs then, both these girls were 140+ and were threatening ME) then he fucking grips me my bicep areas and throws me onto the counter! Wtf! I was also completely naked at this point, as I was getting dressed ready to go home. Then my friend came in, and let me tell you she's a true friend cuz she grabbed the dudes shoulder to get him off me and was like "no no no" as the extras girls scurried out of the room. Then my friend says to the manager, "you really don't know who you're messing with." She really was just warning him, she wasn't trying to act tough, she simply knows my "stepdad" (my mom's man for almost a decade) was in the biggest Detroit gang/drug cartel decades ago and neither he nor my mom plays around when it comes to my safety, if I'd called them they would've arrived within 10 minutes with my mom's Louis bag full of guns. But I didn't want them going to prison over this douche bag.

    Then the guy starts going crazy at my friend, telling her, "wanna know what happened to the last girl that talked to me like that? I broke all her fingers." Then he told her he'd hire a group of black girls to jump her while she was on stage. Then he bragged to her about cracking another girl's skull. The next morning I had clear fingerprint-mark bruises from him grabbing me and throwing me.

    Found out his bitch ass last name and looked him up on Michigan's offender website and sure enough, he was on felony probation for the girl's skull he cracked. He was dating the door girl and beat her ass one time in front of everyone. He got fired shortly after the incident with me though, but my friend and I had already quit. But now he's back in the industry working at some shit hole club.

    These types of men are dangerous as this is the last type of environment they should be working, and gives them a clear gateway to exert their violence and power and can lead to serious injuries. Get him out.

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    Default Re: floorguy has a criminal past

    im torn on this. He was found not guilty. Anybody can get arrested, it's what a judge ruled that matters. We also know jack diddly about what happened. I was arrested for "domestic violence" because my abusive ex stole my wallet and I got hysterical trying to get all my money back before he spent it on drugs..I accidentally scratched him, and was arrested for assault..and found guilty!
    On the other hand, a lot of guilty ppl are found innocent and as i said, we don't know the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by We had a rabbit like you View Post
    im torn on this. He was found not guilty. Anybody can get arrested, it's what a judge ruled that matters. We also know jack diddly about what happened. I was arrested for "domestic violence" because my abusive ex stole my wallet and I got hysterical trying to get all my money back before he spent it on drugs..I accidentally scratched him, and was arrested for assault..and found guilty!
    On the other hand, a lot of guilty ppl are found innocent and as i said, we don't know the story.
    Totally understand you’re point, but as a dancer who has to put my safety in this guys hands, do I take that chance?
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    I had a bad experience with a bouncer many years ago. The owner of the club handled it in-house. I honestly feel guys with records of violence against women do not need to be working in the strip club industry.

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    I don’t think they will get rid of him. Do you guys think i should switch shifts or switch clubs? What would you do in this situation. I asked the district manager what he said to the girl who accused the guy of following her home, and he told herahbe it was just her imagination. That’s what bothers me most honestly
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    If you like the club otherwise; I would not leave because of it. Yes, you are putting your safety quasi on the line; but you are doing that every time you go to work. Who knows what kind of criminal past the customers have?? Or the other dancers for that matter. My friend met a guy at a club that we all became friendly with and years later found out he'd been to prison for murdering a woman and was suspected of murdering another in NY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gia2608 View Post
    If you like the club otherwise; I would not leave because of it. Yes, you are putting your safety quasi on the line; but you are doing that every time you go to work. Who knows what kind of criminal past the customers have?? Or the other dancers for that matter. My friend met a guy at a club that we all became friendly with and years later found out he'd been to prison for murdering a woman and was suspected of murdering another in NY!
    Would you be willing to share more about this?

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    Yes. I worked at a club that is part of a chain (the owner has 4 clubs here in Miami). There was a dancer who worked at one of them with me that I got to be friends with. Eventually I met this guy she knew from the club. He was a regular of the club but I do not necessarily think her regular. We all used to hang out with this guy, me, my friend, other dancers. He is pretty cool to be honest with you. I have even had him in my house that I currently live in. Eventually we both ended up at another one of the sister clubs and danced there for years and the guy would come in once in awhile; but was more of a reg. of the 1st club. My friend ended up moving into the condo complex where he lived.

    Anyway, my friend had gotten married and then divorced. Divorce was really nasty. Her ex hubby decided to hire a PI and follow her around, they did background checks (unauthorized might I add) on many people she spent time with. In the course of this it was discovered this guy had been to prison for murder. I guess like 20 years ago he and his roommate and some chick were all tweaking out on crack and got into an argument. The girl wound up dead.

    Both men accused the other of the crime and neither budged from their story so they were convicted of manslaughter and only served like 7 years.

    Then, after we learned this we looked it up online and I guess when the guy lived in NY there was another murder with almost exact MO (things were done to the body that I will omit to keep people's identity protected). There is suspicion he also committed that crime. I swear to you this guy seemed so normal and even a bit boring.

    My whole point is they don't do background checks on the customers. I had a stalker from a club and I know some other members here have too. I have worked with dancers that had criminal records as well. I think as a dancer we face more threat of being beaten, stabbed or even drugged by the other girls than the staff.
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    You are always at risk in the club I think everyone understands that. But if you have an opportunity to prevent it why wouldn’t you? If a customer is disrespectful or following you or what not, a good club would throw that guy out. I worked at a club where a bouncer followed a dancer home, he was fired IMMEDIATELY. This guy has already tried to follow a dancer home and no one listened to her complaint. Also there’s a reason escorts screen their clients. Clubs have an opportunity to screen the people who work for them...so why not prevent something scary happening? Yeah I’ve known girls who were criminals of course lol and I stay away from that mess! But dancers are hired as contractors not employees.
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    Doesn't make a difference why they are there or their "status" if they attack or assault you, though.
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    There is a difference between a customer with a shitty past/criminal record that happens to walk into an establishment and an employee who is hired with the same background as the hypothetical customer. Both could be potentially dangerous, but a customer can be dealt with far quicker than someone who is employed, not to mention people are more likely to trust someone who works with them versus a customer, meaning there's more potential for that trust to be betrayed with others left more vulnerable. Idk, it's just my two cents on why it's different from a custie with a criminal past.

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