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    It is not a secret: MFC has lost a lot of traffic. Models who used to have 100 people in their room are now getting only 20 and those who used to get 20 are now faced with one or two guests. Top row models haven't noticed much of a difference, of course, because the canary in the coal mine are the girls with a regular camscore. But other than that, everyone has noticed. Models complain on twitter about this, write posts in forums, and in general there is an eerie feeling of doom looming over MFC.


    A few days ago a model posted the following string of tweets detailing how she met a man at a bar who told her MFC was aware of the low traffic and they were working to fix it, he knew this because he was a manager at CrakRevenue:


    https://twitter.com/gingermfc/status/962120525131714565


    Her tweets gained traction and suddenly everyone was curious about CrakRevenue/what it is/how it works. And reading what everyone had to say I realized... most models don't really know they could be making much more money than they currently are if they applied for MFC's CrakRevenue program. Since I have been working with them for at least 10 years (even before I was a camgirl) I am in a privileged position to talk about this subject. So that is why I created this thread. This is a thread to discuss CrakRevenue and other affiliate programs for models who want to get more money from their regulars and monetize their basics, guests, anonymous and greys.


    If you are a Streamate model and you use your cammodels.com link you will be familiar with some of this as that is also an affiliate program. If you have no idea what I am talking about, don't worry, I will explain everything in detail.


    So first things first... who am I? I don't really post here much, I am active on another camgirl forum, so I think I should introduce myself. My name is Mila, I have been a camgirl for 5 years. I have worked on MFC, CB and I dipped my toes on SM but it wasn't really my cup of tea. I like The Smiths, moroccan mint tea, and gifs of dogs, I am really good at making money probably because as a jew it's in my blood. I am also really good at explaining things. And as you can see, humility is my forte. And, without further ado, welcome to... *drumroll*

    Mila's CrakRevenue Tutorials Part 1
    : How to shake more money off everyone

    Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to my long yet savvy CrakRevenue tutorial. In this tutorial we will learn how to shake off more money out of everyone, make your basics and guests pay up and jew people out of their retirement funds. Just kidding. Not really.

    Now that we are acquainted let's start by doing an exercise in imagination. I want you to drop whatever you are doing and focus on this for a sec. Think about your top paying regular of all time, the user that's contributed the most to your room since you started camming...Do you have a name? Good. Do you remember roughly how much he spent? No? Well, let's refresh your memory. If you are on MFC, go to your model panel and click on "top users" (it has a star icon) and just check the far right column. This is what mine looks like:

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    My top paying member, his name is Arthur, was a 60 year old who inherited oil wells from his father and he spent his life throwing money at people, but there were strings attached. In exchange for his generous contributions he demanded constant attention, he was very needy. I woke up to his Twitter DMs every morning and went to bed with pictures of his dog in Snapchat. Since he contributed such a significant portion of my income I felt like I had to accept this defacto GFE arrangement even when I never signed up for it. Ah, the life of an internet companion...

    Anyway, I asked Arthur to tell me how he found MFC. He had clicked on a pop-up and signed up because he found my room, something in my profile called out to him, he said. That confession put an uncomfortable pebble in my Louboutins. If he signed up through a pop-up that meant there was somebody out there in the vast universe of the world wide web making 20% of everything Arthur spent without even knowing his name. This person was probably a dude, "The Pop-Up Guy"... I pictured him in slacks and sneakers eating cheetos and laughing all the way to the bank because he didn't have to listen to Arthur's rants about Sunday brunch with his psychotic mother, or read his love poems. Getting the calculator made the scene even bleaker. Arthur had spent 2.7 million tokens on me in 3 years. To me that meant about $130k, a lot of money. Well, The Pop Up Guy received between $54k and $43k. To put this into perspective, this is more than what my second highest paying user of all time spent on me. I was so pissed. I would have switched places with The Pop-Up guy in an instant because I would have much rather get only half of what I had gotten from Arthur if it meant I didn't have to deal with him.

    So what is the take-away here? The take away is... there are ways to cam without camming. If you are the person holding the pop-ups your work ends when the user signs up to the site and then you have all the models on the site working for you trying to shake cash off him. No matter where he spends his money you will always get 20% of it. Isn't it wonderful? I think it is. Think of the possibilities... if you are thinking of retiring in the next 5 years, getting users to the site could offer you a great way to wean out of camming slowly. Because even if you stop camming you will still get 20% commission on whatever the users you referred to the site spend. Eventually most of them will stop spending but it will give you enough time to figure out what to do with your life. But even if you have a hundred years of cam-shelf ahead of you by doing this you are looking at a payout rate of about 70% for all the members you bring to the site instead of the usual 50%. So how do you become The Pop-Up Guy? That is what we will talk about next.

    HOW TO GET STARTED
    In order to become The Pop-Up Guy in the case of MFC you have to go through a CPA network called CrakRevenue. A CPA network is an intermediary between websites that are looking for traffic and people who can provide it. The websites looking for traffic (in this case MFC) are called "sponsors" or "advertirsers" and the people providing the traffic (you) are called "affiliates". The sponsor pays the affiliate money for bringing traffic to their site. Each CPA Network has it's own model but in the case of CrakRevenue, it works like a marketplace. Sponsors come up with programs called "offers" and you get to pick the one you like to work with. And since there is just so many things you can advertise to your followers and their attention span isn't infinite, the sponsors are competing to get you to use them. The better the offer the more affiliates they get. MFC has 4 offers going at the moment:

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    The first offer is a Revshare program. Which stands for REVenue SHAREd That means you get a percentage of whatever the people you brought in spend. If they spend nothing, you get nothing. If they spend 2.7 million tokens, you get 54 thousand bucks while eating cheetos in your slacks.

    The second type of offer they have is a DOI. It stands for Double Opt-In. This means that they will pay you for each person that signs-up and confirms their email address a standard amount. If you get 30 people to sign up you will get 30 times their DOI payout regardless of what they spend in the future. If they spend nothing, you still get paid. MFC's DOI goes in 3 tiers depending on the country your traffic comes from. You see, MFC like most sponsors, has figured out that the people who spend on their site tend to come from certain countries, so they are willing to pay you more for people from those countries. If you click on each one of the tiers you will see the payout rate and what countries are in that program. The US is almost always a T1 when it comes to DOIs, as is the Commonwealth and Germany. Countries like Italy or Israel tend to be on T2, countries like Argentina or Brazil tend to be on T3.. and then there are countries like India who don't qualify at all.

    Now, which program should you use? It depends on the kind of traffic you have. Let's stick with the domme example, let's suppose you are a domme clipmaker from IWantClips which is a site with a userbase predominantly from the UK from my understanding and you have amassed 20k Instagram followers from there and also 15 loyal subs/paypigs. When you are advertising on your Instagram account you might consider using the DOI offer because if they are from the UK you will get $2.5 for each sign-up and since they are randoms they might never spend on the site. But when you talk to your subs about your first show on MFC you better send them that rev-share link because they will spend a lot on you and maybe elsewhere too. You want to have a slice of that pie. Are you following?

    Okay, so what do you need to get started? First you need to sign up with CrakRevenue. I am not going to sugar goat this: they ask a bunch of questions, it takes them 72 hours to review your account, they can flat out deny you and the jargon in the sign-up form can be intimidating for someone who has never worked with online advertising. So you have two options, the first one is to follow my instructions, I will guide you step-by-step, be patient and accept that CrakRevenue can simply reject you. The second one... I can give you the contact of my dedicated CrakRevenue agent and he will sign you up no questions asked, but I wont give it out to everyone, I need to know you are trustworthy and you are not a hobbyist because I care about my reptutation and I don't want to waste my agent's time. If you have been camming for more than a year and have a nice following send me a PM with your links and I will give you his contact. Otherwise you are fucked and you will need to follow the guide.

    SIGN-UP GUIDE

    Let's get this show on the road. First things first, getting to the sign-up form. If you use the following link I will get a small commission for referring you and it will cost you nothing because it comes out of CrakRevenue's pocket:

    LINK: Sign-up to CrakRevenue

    If you don't want to fund my magazine addiction then just go to their homepage.

    STEP ONE enter your email address and password. Make sure your password has lower-case and upper-case and 8 characters total.

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    STEP 2: they will ask you for your contact information... Name, address, Skype username, timezone, best time to call you, etc. Fill it out completely, they want your contact info in case you make a lot of money and they want to give you more tools and an agent.

    STEP 3: then you need to enter your payment method, I suggest you use FirstChoicePay or Paxum because the fee is small and you wont be making much off the bat. Revshare is something that grows over time.

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    STEP 4: here is where it gets tricky... you need to start entering information about the kind of traffic you will provide and the type of offers you are interested in. This is because there are a lot of spammers out there... people who simply buy mailing lists off the internet with millions of addresses and spam them, this is bad for CrakRevenue because it's shitty traffic that don't spend. Imagine paying one of these people $2.5 per signup and none of their referrals spend a dime. It is bad for business. So they need to know where your traffic comes from. There is a lot of jargon and Stripperweb has a character limit per post so I wont be able to explain it, just copy what I ticked when you sign up.

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    STEP 5: Even more questions about your traffic and your intentions, simply tick what I ticked.

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    Since you are only starting don't lie to them. You are currently generating $0 revenue through monetization of your traffic... Onwards!

    STEP 6: this one is easy

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    STEP 7: That's it! Wait for them to accept or reject you.

    Note: here is the link to sign-up again. If you enjoyed the guide using it gives me a small commission for every person that signs-up. The commission comes out of CrakRevenue's pocket so you will notice no difference with signing up on the homepage. Also if you are established and you want to skip all the bullshit above, PM me your links and I will talk to my agent so he gets you up and running quickly.

    If you were able to sign-up post in the thread so we know how it went! My next guide will be about advertising MFC to your followers and the one after that is about getting $$$ out of your guests and basics. That's it for today!


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    Hey should I post more about this topic? Is anyone interested?

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    I'm interested

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    Thanks for the MFC affiliate info! It's been on my list to research so this is awesome!!

    Just my two cents to add for Streamate Models, in addition to the cammodel link that you can use, I have a white label with them that I started using when I cammed on SM and to this day I make decent monthly checks from. Cambuilder.com is the one for Streamate- you make 35% of everything they spend on the site (the same % as the model) The set up is very easy. Just buy a domain, create a logo and then Cambuilder.com has templates for you to set up your white label. Takes about 10 minutes to set up
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    What does "white label" mean? I have seen the term a few times but no idea lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadistPrincess View Post
    What does "white label" mean? I have seen the term a few times but no idea lol
    A white label is a site set up exactly like SM but its got another name. So you go pick a name, say SexyMoneyBarelylegal.com (sorry some of these names are really stupid so Im just going with the flow) Then you get to add your name to the top of the SM site where normally it says SM. Otherwise the site is exactly the same but if you drive traffic there to see you and its their first time signing up then you start making 35% of everything they spend on you or anyone else!

    I hope this is clear. I wanted to comment also that using your cammodels link only gets you 20% AND once you cease to be a cammodel you no longer get that revenue! Its always best to use Cambuilder.com for an affiliate link over the long term.

    Sorry, thread hijack but im interested and I have questions. So obviously Im not just starting out or making 0 bucks just now and I would love to have this as another egg for long term but if I make an application and it get denied then can I still come and petition you to let me have access to your guy or is it a one time application process??

    Also I would like to start putting advertisements on at least one of my site but I havent done it yet so should I check that box or just leave it empty?

    Thanks for the great thread! I cant wait for the next installment.

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    This is great keep the conversation going.

    between adult affiliate programs and non-adult affiliate programs. sometimes it a little hard to keep track of everything for me. but so worth it that I am putting myself in a position to leverage my brand and create passive income. Sometimes sales that come in from my affiliate links whether adult or mainstream are higher then what I earn sitting on webcam all day.

    The affiliate marketing space is massively huge and pretty much any of your passions out there chances are has some type of affiliate program , product or service out there.

    I am all about leveraging my time so I can have multiple streams of income working for me daily which has taken the pressure off to hit my daily goals from camming. I use a potion of my my earnings from camming into , buying traffic to my affiliate links and also investing web hosting for my blogs, email marketing and upgrading equipment for my youtube channel.

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    It seems like I have been banned from the forum? It keeps logging me out all the time to the point where I can't even reply to my private messages. I don't understand what is going on, it happens on different browsers and IPs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milarky View Post
    It seems like I have been banned from the forum? It keeps logging me out all the time to the point where I can't even reply to my private messages. I don't understand what is going on, it happens on different browsers and IPs as well.
    Its been glitchy like this for a while - I'm having the same issues - its just took me ages trying to post right now on the AW thread. Its particularly bad tonight for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    A white label is a site set up exactly like SM but its got another name. So you go pick a name, say SexyMoneyBarelylegal.com (sorry some of these names are really stupid so Im just going with the flow) Then you get to add your name to the top of the SM site where normally it says SM. Otherwise the site is exactly the same but if you drive traffic there to see you and its their first time signing up then you start making 35% of everything they spend on you or anyone else!

    I hope this is clear. I wanted to comment also that using your cammodels link only gets you 20% AND once you cease to be a cammodel you no longer get that revenue! Its always best to use Cambuilder.com for an affiliate link over the long term.

    Sorry, thread hijack but im interested and I have questions. So obviously Im not just starting out or making 0 bucks just now and I would love to have this as another egg for long term but if I make an application and it get denied then can I still come and petition you to let me have access to your guy or is it a one time application process??

    Also I would like to start putting advertisements on at least one of my site but I havent done it yet so should I check that box or just leave it empty?

    Thanks for the great thread! I cant wait for the next installment.
    Possibly dumb question but can the site be our own domain? For example www.modelname.com or does it need to be separate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiliam View Post
    Possibly dumb question but can the site be our own domain? For example www.modelname.com or does it need to be separate?
    Yup it can be your model name or a keyword phrase like "hotgirls.online, hotgirlsonline.com etc". It also works if you don't plan on building a personal website just yet, but decide to use a whitelabel as a placeholder in meantime. This way you can earn income from name recognition.

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    Has anyone successfully signed up? I was accepted to CrakRevenue. But to sign up for the MFC revshare program I need to apply specifically for it. It asks me how much traffic I plan to bring and what my sources are. I have no idea what to put for amount of traffic. I tried contacting OP but haven't heard back.

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    I'm thinking of trying the whole white label thing lol for Streamate so from what I understand I need to decide on a name and then purchase hosting etc just as if I was doing a website for myself and THEN set up the white label? I'm sorry that I'm probably being incredibly obtuse

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    You just need to buy the domain name, you don't need to buy a hosting package. Buy the domain name for as long as you can afford, but buy the privacy for short term if you can separate the contract. In the process of setting it up on cambuilder.com, you will effectively give the domain over to Streamate to host and they'll change the privacy details to their account.

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    2 of my labels are under the solidcams domains built under cambuilder. That is a option if you dont want to purchase a domain.
    I think you can add a domain later. I would ask.

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    Great topic! Cam Models can make some great money when they start to take advantage of affiliate programs.

    As a reminder, each iFriends model has their own promotional links. When a user signs up to iFriends through your promotional link, you earn:
    • 100% of what that user spends in your live sessions, tips, and fanclubs (or 65% if you're GPO)
    • 3% RevShare of everything they spend with other models in live chat (per-minute fees + in-session tips)
    • A PPS Commission (currently $100) when that user spends enough time with other models


    ClickCash also gives you some suggestions on how to market your links in their blog. The Marketing Tips, ClickCash University, and Getting Started areas are filled with resources that you can use across any affiliate network (though they're written specifically for iFriends).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erika_Xstacy View Post
    2 of my labels are under the solidcams domains built under cambuilder. That is a option if you dont want to purchase a domain.
    I think you can add a domain later. I would ask.
    Thank you and I'll check on the solidcams thing. I wasn't aware you could have more than one so that's good to know as well.

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    Random question- is it possible if you're running the label to just stick yourself on the top row? I realize that sounds like a cheesy thing to do but hey...I can be cheesy lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPookie View Post
    Random question- is it possible if you're running the label to just stick yourself on the top row? I realize that sounds like a cheesy thing to do but hey...I can be cheesy lol
    Not with their tools as they currently are. If you are a leading person in a particular category, you can set the default category for your white label (and I think even restrict or eliminate other categories, but that may be just their old Moneytree program).

    One of our current early alpha projects is how to do this with a highly customized website that borrows from Streamate white labels so we can arrange our own models on the page. This isn't very technically easy to do in the way we want, so I'm not expecting results very soon. The goal is to have a single point that we can divert traffic into for just the benefit of our own models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPookie View Post
    Random question- is it possible if you're running the label to just stick yourself on the top row? I realize that sounds like a cheesy thing to do but hey...I can be cheesy lol
    lol I use to wonder this.

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    I do have my own personal website which is geared for Indie shows. Would it be a good idea regardless to sort of add in that as well? Something along the lines of check out my sexy models at xyz.com live on cam with a page or below my Skype info showing the front page of my label or would that be shooting myself in the foot as they would be less likely to get shows from me? In that case I'd definitely want a separate site. I go for kind of a high end femdom fetish look on my site if that matters

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    Anyone a cam site affiliate trying to get people to sign up on cam sites? I’m wondering what the best ones to do are? I tried glasscash in the past and made money from it but now I can’t get the money to answer my emails about getting a new manager for more training with them adding more sites . Also can’t get them to give me the other sites. So looking for other sites to do it .

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