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    Default Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    Sorry for the silly title but "Help me be a better custie" was so boring. I don't really think I'm any of those things, though I'm sure some of the girls at my spot think I'm a time waster. I've been reading a ton here and learning a lot since stumbling upon this site a few weeks ago. In reality I think I was already a good custie, and now I've learned so much here I think I'm ready to take it to the next level. Still, I did some dumb (unintentional) shit on my last SC get away, so why not ask the pros for a checkup and tips.


    Long story short I work 70 hours a week Mar-Dec (no SC, no drinking) so I can take Jan/Feb off. I meet some old friends in S FLA every Jan and sun my buns and just have a great time relaxing and partying. When that's done I sneak off to Key West for my secret week as a total SC degenerate, and I ++++ing love it!


    I love the girls, period. I respect them, I respect the hustle and enjoy watching it unfold all around the club. I'm not looking for free sex, paid sex, a GF, a wife. I leave my sweat pants at home, they're not even in the state! I don't do many dances because that's not my thing as much as partying or hanging out with my group of girls. I buy a ton of drinks and tip the stage ALL NIGHT, over and over, some rain, sometimes just a few bucks, but always tipping. My last time in town I'd guess I probably threw more on the stage than anyone else every night.


    So those are the pros, here's some (potential) cons:

    I'm not a rich guy, I bring $500-$700 a night and usually leave with 0, but like I said I party and love to throw it on my favorite girls on stage. I only do 2 or 3 LD's a night.


    I did some silly stuff: I was watching a couple seats at the bar when a girl I was just talking to got on stage. Zero chance I wasn't gonna tip her, balled up a few ones and tossed em', opps, she kinda flipped out and threw em' back. She was really cool in general and told me later she was just playing, but no, she was super pissed, anyways we made up.


    I maybe later'd probably 500 times, opps. had no idea how annoying and cliche that was. I did tell a lot of girls no thanks when I was sure, but frankly I probably could have maybe later'd 100 times, and busted out the no thanks 400 more times. One girl I liked but wasn't really a part of my core group, and tipped regularly, and even got one LD from a couple days earlier I must've ML'd 50 times throughout the week. She kinda snapped on me my last night. So it dawned on me before even reading here what a dick move that was. So now I know, but.... What about when maybe later actually applies? 1 girl I ML'd a few times my first couple days turned out to be my favorite chick to hang out with.


    This I'm not sure on; When a couple of my fav's were on stage I'd drop everything and pull up to the rail, obviously tipping a lot, but looking back it kinda feels like I was a puppy following them around. Jesus, this isn't PL is it? lol. More importantly this couldn't be bad for business for them, could it? They didn't seem to mind one bit fwiw.


    One thing I'm confused about; There was a lot of playful sweet talk going back and forth all night, but none of my main girls tried to hustle me. There wasn't many dances, and most that did happen were initiated by me. I didn't understand it at the time, and even less so now after hours of reading the hustle hut (love the HH btw, great sub forum). I know it's not because they all wanted to be my GF and sex me nonstop OTC, lol. Was I just a wise cracking, drink buying gentlemanly safe port in a storm of ****ing pigs? Anyway, no one got rich off me but I think we had a good time and I certainly upped a few hourly rates.


    ugh, this got really long and rambly, apologies, just trying to paint a picture.


    Interested in any feedback or tips before my next adventure.

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    Default Re: Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    As long as guys tip good on stage I don’t care if they hang out-as long as they let me make money and don’t get butt hurt when I’m busy hustling.

    I’m a nice girl. Honestly I have favorites who I spend more time with cause I know they are decent guys. Even if it’s just a minute, I always say hi to the guys who are good customers even if they aren’t super rich. Maybe I’m a dumb nieve stripper, but I honestly think all guys deserve to be treated kindly.

    Men have certainly made my life harder, but hate is too great a burden to bear. So I just try to make money and be happy. Most often I make more money because I actually give a shit- of course I’m gaurded but I do care as safely as I can.

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    It doesn't sound like you've done anything wrong. "maybe later" is fine. It's actually much appreciated compared to someone who tries to talk and waste my time with no imtentions of ever buying a dance. The only problem I can see with that is I usually take it as being politely brushed off so if the club is nice and busy and there are other customers to try I wont really go back and ask a "maybe later" guy again if he would like a dance so if you want a dance from someone specific you might have to seek her out in case she decides not to try again. And if the girls aren't hustling you I don't really think that's a bad thing. I pretty much ask if someone wants a dance and leave if they say no because I work in busier clubs and that's just usually how it goes. On to the next. The "hustle" usually happens when it's dead or less of a busy/club type of environment. Totally depends what kind of club you were at

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    Default Re: Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    So lets say you spend $500. That seems pretty healthy but if you are you getting bottle service twice a night then suddenly that really isn't much left. How much of that budget is actually for tips?

    Past that I would say if a girl is spending a ton of time at your table you should tip her just for that.

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    Default Re: Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    thinking of yourself as a "gentlemanly safe port in a storm of fucking pigs" just because you bought drinks and tipped is a bit much..

    but it doesn't sound like you did anything rude except for wadding up dollars and chucking them at a girl. sounds like you already know not to do that anymore though, so, you're good

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    Thanks ladies....



    Quote Originally Posted by thehester2 View Post
    So lets say you spend $500. That seems pretty healthy but if you are you getting bottle service twice a night then suddenly that really isn't much left. How much of that budget is actually for tips?

    Past that I would say if a girl is spending a ton of time at your table you should tip her just for that.

    No bottle service, but yeah, usually spending $200-$300 a night on drinks. Plus a couple LD's. so say $200-$400 in tips, mostly at the stage. Also, re-reading my post I could see it reading like several girls were wasting a ton of time with me, no. It was mostly drive by stops between hustles, quick drink/5 min break/light playful chit chat, which was perfect for me because I was there to have fun not flap my gums or hear life stories. The few times a girl would stick around longer it was clear it was because she wanted to do some drinking, and we did.


    Quote Originally Posted by Girl Anachronism View Post
    thinking of yourself as a "gentlemanly safe port in a storm of fucking pigs" just because you bought drinks and tipped is a bit much..

    That was totally tongue in cheek and not how I see myself at all. Still a pretty cringe worthy sentence though, agreed.

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    Default Re: Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    You sound like one of my long-time regulars. He sometimes buys dances but they are mainly from a core group of girls, and there are 2 of us who are paid just to sit with him. A lot of girls will sit with him as a break, knowing they won't get any dances, because he's fun to chat with and will buy them drinks. I'm sure there are some who think he's a colossal time-waster, but really he's quietly handing out $4-700 every visit.

    Anyway, I mention that to illustrate that there's other guys who do like you. There's nothing wrong with it.

    With the "maybe later" girl, it depends who initiated things. I will snap at customers who 'maybe later' me and then flag me down 3 times afterwards. But if I were to choose to go back to that guy 3 times and he kept saying "maybe later", then I'm a dumbass who's wasting my own time and not taking a hint. So if she kept coming back, that's kinda on her.

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with moving to the rail to tip your favorite girls. That makes us look desired to the other customers and of course, money.
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    Default Re: Am I a grotesque time wasting PL with bad breath and a tiny ****?

    Thanks for the feedback Selina. You and Daniellaa have me feeling better about the ML stuff.

    Love the location btw. I actually live close by, I'll swing by for a dance some time if UndaUnda lets me go out.

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