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    What's a fair amount to tip (hourly) for a dancers time just relaxing, talking, whatever, without actually getting dances?

    I spent the majority of this weekend with two dancers, and most of our time was on the couches around the barely used second stage. One of the dancers hadn't slept in 24 hours, and ended up using me as a pillow for an hour-long nap. While she slept, the other dancer and I talked about our kids, how much social anxiety sucks, crazy pet names, etc. It was incredibly relaxing.

    This continued off and on all night, broken only by their stage sets, where I tipped an average of $30. They did one set together, and I ended up tipping $110 ($55 each). After that, they more or less ignored the room and we just chilled. If someone grabbed them for a dance on their way back to the couch, they'd do one and then decline anything further.

    I did 5 dances with one, and 11 with the other (the sleepy one. She was determined to break my personal record, though admittedly, she catnapped for three songs while I rubbed her neck lol). We finished the night with nine straight doubles dances.

    I say all that because they definitely made some money, so I don't think tipping for their time was expected. That said, I'd like to take a lazy Sunday evening soon and just go hang out with them. They both work Sundays and told me how much they suck. I think it'd be a pleasant surprise to have a relaxing, yet profitable evening.

    So, what would you recommend as a good hourly rate?

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    As much as dances at your club cost. And then however many dances could be fit into an hour. That's how I do it anyways. If someone wants me to just hang out with them, talk, sit around, that's fine but I charge the same that I charge for dances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniellaa View Post
    As much as dances at your club cost. And then however many dances could be fit into an hour. That's how I do it anyways. If someone wants me to just hang out with them, talk, sit around, that's fine but I charge the same that I charge for dances.
    That's fair, but at $360 an hour (18 songs, $20 each), steep for what I can afford. I usually come in at open and stay til close (7-8 hours), and bring about $1000-1500 with me. I often see both of the dancers sitting on their own, or together just chatting, so they don't seem super interested in hustling. Talking to them, dancing is supplementary income, not primary. My original thought was about $100 an hour, but I don't want to be seen as undervaluing their worth or their time with the offer.

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    Find out what is their cut for an hour vip. You can give them that, plus tip.

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    The club doesn't have a true VIP like that. They call the lap dance area VIP, but it doesn't have hourly rates or anything. Just per song.

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    I just up and asked her what would be good. She said a hard hustle gets her $600 after tipout, so I offered $800, or about $100 an hour. She agreed. I'll probably bump it to $900 without telling her so I can cover more of the tipout for her as well. That includes dances, stage tipping, etc, with her taking home a total of $720 after all is said and done. Just gotta talk to the other dancer now and see if those terms work for her too. Then we can all hang when I come to town.

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    ^ I think that is more than fair especially given she seems to enjoy spending the shift with you.

    I will probably get some hate for this, but I think it is absolutely ridiculous to ask a customer to pay the equivalent of 20 dances for hanging out for an hour.

    My logic: If you expect to make $500 in a 5 hour shift, that's $100/hour based on what is otherwise available in the club. The reason you make $100/hour is because you're spending on average 15/20 songs hustling and 5 songs dancing... aside from getting a CR or something, you are definitely not spending every single hour dancing non-stop.

    If you get up from the customer willing to give you that $100/hour, you are probably going to still make the same in the end, and it'll require you to hustle multiple other men (aka be a lot more work, at least in my opinion). I'd much rather sit on my ass making small talk (yes I know, emotional labor, blah blah) than go spend 30-45 mins an hour hustling a bunch of new people who may amount to nothing.

    Sure, you gamble on missing out on a whale, but you also gamble on missing out on a bunch of non-spending partiers too. Personally, I wouldn't leave a sure thing to go play a slot machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I will probably get some hate for this, but I think it is absolutely ridiculous to ask a customer to pay the equivalent of 20 dances for hanging out for an hour.
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    I'd have to respectfully disagree.

    Time is the one thing we can NEVER get back. Whether a person decides to charge $10 per hour or $5000+ per hour - and someone finds time with that person valuable enough to shell out the cash for it - who are we to say what is "ridiculous" in a free market?

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    Miss, I agree that every woman has the right to set her worth. In this case though, I'm glad this woman doesn't think like Daniellaa! I can afford quite a bit, but that's steep for me, ($360 x 8 hours, or $2880 a night). If you can get it though, hell yah, more power to you!

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    I am aware it's a free market and we can all charge as we please for our time. If you can get a guy to give you that kind of cash to shoot the shit with him on the main floor, go for it.

    More random thoughts on charging for time: I find it to be a dumb business move to charge that kind of money unless you know for sure that guy has $1000 in his wallet. The average yahoos that come into a club nowadays don't have that chunk of change sitting around. He may have been totally willing to give you $100 or $150/hour, but the minute you quote him $360, the wallet snaps shut. You've effectively shot yourself in the foot and now you make no money.

    Those that do have $1000 to freely fling around are generally going to want more for it too, be it dances or the atmosphere/amenities of a VIP area.

    This is all reflective of me personally I'm sure. I just prefer to not play Grass Is Greener and abandon a sure chunk of money because I MIGHT get more elsewhere.... I've seen too many girls get snotty about "I only do half hours, not dances", "I'll sit here but only for $300/hour", and then they are the ones who can't even pay their house later. There's a fine line between being a confident girl who knows her worth & a spoiled princess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titus23 View Post
    Miss, I agree that every woman has the right to set her worth. In this case though, I'm glad this woman doesn't think like Daniellaa! I can afford quite a bit, but that's steep for me, ($360 x 8 hours, or $2880 a night). If you can get it though, hell yah, more power to you!
    Well at least you're not like the cheap freeloading furniture......that is all

    You weren't trying to con her, waste her time, and willing to consult with her about compensation. seems to me @ $100/hr - to be fairly reasonable. as of course I think $360/hr would be reasonable too (if you know the client can spend this amount and the crowd is more upscale / filled with high earning patrons).

    Probably depends of a variety of factors whether a dancer holding out for the highest offer is wise or not.
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    Posts like this are so stupid. It's like asking a car salesman what price he thinks you should pay for a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I'd have to respectfully disagree.

    Time is the one thing we can NEVER get back. Whether a person decides to charge $10 per hour or $5000+ per hour - and someone finds time with that person valuable enough to shell out the cash for it - who are we to say what is "ridiculous" in a free market?
    Selina is talking about being realistic and practical, you talk about all or nothing. Can you help me understand your reasoning? Maybe from one of your hustle experiences?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Posts like this are so stupid. It's like asking a car salesman what price he thinks you should pay for a car.
    I understand how you feel. I get angry when I can't afford the things I really want too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selina M View Post
    I am aware it's a free market and we can all charge as we please for our time. If you can get a guy to give you that kind of cash to shoot the shit with him on the main floor, go for it.

    More random thoughts on charging for time: I find it to be a dumb business move to charge that kind of money unless you know for sure that guy has $1000 in his wallet. The average yahoos that come into a club nowadays don't have that chunk of change sitting around. He may have been totally willing to give you $100 or $150/hour, but the minute you quote him $360, the wallet snaps shut. You've effectively shot yourself in the foot and now you make no money.

    Those that do have $1000 to freely fling around are generally going to want more for it too, be it dances or the atmosphere/amenities of a VIP area.

    This is all reflective of me personally I'm sure. I just prefer to not play Grass Is Greener and abandon a sure chunk of money because I MIGHT get more elsewhere.... I've seen too many girls get snotty about "I only do half hours, not dances", "I'll sit here but only for $300/hour", and then they are the ones who can't even pay their house later. There's a fine line between being a confident girl who knows her worth & a spoiled princess.
    It's not like you can't just lower the price and make it sound like you're giving them a discount because they're oh so special and you really wanna spend time with them. That makes them feel good and can turn things around if they don't seem very receptive of the first price you give them. There are plenty of guys that can and do spend that much if they're expecting that much of your time, but if they don't seem to be feeling it you can always go lower. I just don't see the point of starting with the lower price since in my experience the guys who wanna spend that much time or just wanna talk (and pay for it) arent the typical strip club goer who comes with 100 bucks, they're willing to spend more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Posts like this are so stupid. It's like asking a car salesman what price he thinks you should pay for a car.
    No, it's more like asking car salesmen at a bunch of different auto stores what they think is fair market value for the car you're looking at, so that you can be properly informed when going to talk to the dealer that has the car you want.

    Except, that it's not a car, it's a gorgeous woman and her time, which changes things. A car is inanimate and doesn't have it's own wants and needs. It doesn't have to work hard, it doesn't care about who rides in it, and for that matter, neither does the car salesman. The woman on the other hand certainly does. Time by it's very nature is fleeting and invaluable. It's the one resource we can never have back. A woman's time is priceless, and yet, that's what we all try to do, isn't it? Find the value of something beyond value?

    This line of business forces people to put a mark on the wall for this priceless commodity, and every woman has their own method of determining where that mark lies. I think the answers so far in this thread prove that. As I mentioned previously, I don't want to insult this woman with a low ball quote. That is why I started the thread. She's worth the price I'm going to pay. In my opinion, she's worth a hell of a lot more as well, which is why I intend to be a repeat customer, to provide a reliable source of income, at least once a month, while also letting her relax for the day. She's joked about bringing her slippers in so she can be comfortable, and I told her hell yah, go for it! Yesterday, after she got off shift, she texted saying she can't wait for Friday so she can take a night off. To me, that's what this is about. Talking, relaxing, some cuddling, perfection. You can't do that with a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    I understand how you feel. I get angry when I can't afford the things I really want too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Posts like this are so stupid. It's like asking a car salesman what price he thinks you should pay for a car.
    Um sir....a car saleMAN is selling a damn car! Only thing stupid is when people act like misogynists who do not understanding that as a woman Certain things like our time, our pussy, etc we can never get back and should have value.

    The car analogy is Totally different from a woman's TIME!

    The op showing that he has respect for that woman by asking her (not telling her or deciding for her) what the value of her time is and following her lead is what a real man should do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    Selina is talking about being realistic and practical, you talk about all or nothing. Can you help me understand your reasoning? Maybe from one of your hustle experiences?
    No I somewhat elaborated above, it should depend on a variety of factors including but not limited to: the number of patrons, what other ladies are charging, how much time a lady has available, does the lady have regulars/other income streams/etc, the average patrons spending/earning capacity, etc.

    I meant that if you are in an upscale environment or some place where the cost of living is high, then charging $360 for your time (regardless of what you are doing) may not be so "ridiculous".

    It really is all about context and what is going on in the market you are in.


    Quote Originally Posted by Daniellaa View Post
    It's not like you can't just lower the price and make it sound like you're giving them a discount because they're oh so special and you really wanna spend time with them. That makes them feel good and can turn things around if they don't seem very receptive of the first price you give them. There are plenty of guys that can and do spend that much if they're expecting that much of your time, but if they don't seem to be feeling it you can always go lower. I just don't see the point of starting with the lower price since in my experience the guys who wanna spend that much time or just wanna talk (and pay for it) arent the typical strip club goer who comes with 100 bucks, they're willing to spend more.
    True! Remember in sales the concept of negotiation and starting high then going low to meet them at their budget level - because you just never know when you run into those individuals who got that type of wealth and willing to share with you (without haggling you down and without a bunch of strings attached)

    Last thing you want is to lowball offer your time, leave him with hella cash, then watch Bubbles come behind you and go home with the money he could have continued to spend on YOU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    I understand how you feel. I get angry when I can't afford the things I really want too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gameover View Post
    Posts like this are so stupid. It's like asking a car salesman what price he thinks you should pay for a car.
    You're def the one dollar tipper, and I bet you do cheap feels on top of it too.

    Just stay home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I'd have to respectfully disagree.

    Time is the one thing we can NEVER get back. Whether a person decides to charge $10 per hour or $5000+ per hour - and someone finds time with that person valuable enough to shell out the cash for it - who are we to say what is "ridiculous" in a free market?
    Thanks for my laugh of the day. You've certainly provided a lot of free posts on this site. (and who knows how many other sites.) Maybe you should start charging people for the privilege of reading your posts, and see how many hits you get.
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    Yep. I'm not sure I find it funny But I see your point thanks.

    You may be assuming that, while I may not have a sales cycle here (for a specific reason) I may not have one, or more than one, in other places.

    I've considered having a sales cycle here and .... we will see.

    But as far as a patron tipping for time. Many factors should be considered. I think it is beneficial - because it shows that there is a respect for that person/a value on their time.
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    common sense. honestly. if it's a saturday night at midnight and i'm working at the rhino in vegas i'm going to expect a much bigger tip for hanging out than i would on a random dead wednesday working at a dive in buttfuck nowhere. if the girl doesn't try to leave or ask for more money then it's safe to assume you're tipping enough. if she just sits there forever and expects a tip without asking or making it clear she has to make money then that's her fault for being an idiot. i've been guilty of that lots of times befofe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elektra Luxx View Post
    I understand how you feel. I get angry when I can't afford the things I really want too.
    I have to admit that's a clever comeback. But I stand by my point. I think posts like the OP are just to get stroked online by strippers. It's just a free form of online wanking. I suspect most of these posters spend diddly in the actual clubs.

    At any rate, tip what you think her time is worth. If she can make more, she will leave. Odds are, she won't able to, and she'll stay. If she does leave, and you would like her to stay, just open your wallet a little more and she'll come back.

    The magic of the free market is that it works so well. If you aren't paying her enough, she'll leave. If you are, she'll stay. If you overpay, of course she'll stay, but she'll be thinking to herself your an idiot for overpaying.

    Dancers telling you to pay their full dance price for staying with you are delusional. Of course they want that, but they know they can't get that, and they are happy for much less. The reality is that this is an incredible buyers market. There are way too many dancers and very few customers.

    In summary, if it makes you feel better to overpay for a dancers time, by all means do so. Just remember this is just a job to her, and this is just a business transaction. And OP, if you ever want to buy a car, please come to me, I'll be happy to sell you one for a really fair price p.s. you really need to listen to the lyrics of The Tubes' song She's a Beauty.

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