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    Default Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    ImLive just posted they are offering global bank transfers (pretty much direct deposit to your bank) through Payoneer to replace Firstchoice for USA hosts.

    I'm surprised. Hard to trust the company after this, but in the past before FirstChoice my bank transfers were always on time in my bank and it was only a $3 flat fee.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    I do miss the days when global bank transfer worked in Canada too. Not sure why they had to go ahead and ruin things by forcing people onto the new FCP cards. Maybe it was a greed thing to squeeze more money out in card fees from SWs? I would consider using Payoneer again if they made GBT available again for non US/UK peeps. As long as Payoneer didn't keep all their funds with Choice Bank, I don't see why they couldn't still do business as usual with deposits in local currency.

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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    I tried logging on Payoneer, and they aren't letting me to log in or restore password by email. There's just an infinite captcha. So I wouldn't deem them too much alive, either.
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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnylexie View Post
    I tried logging on Payoneer, and they aren't letting me to log in or restore password by email. There's just an infinite captcha. So I wouldn't deem them too much alive, either.
    I was able to log in, update my phone number and request a different bank account for my direct deposits instead of the old one I had listed, and got a response from customer service today. All my info was still there. the captcha thing might be a browser issue - maybe clear cookies? I was using Chrome.

    ImLive isn't my main source of money, but if they will do direct bank transfers right to my bank through Payoneer for $3 flat rate I'll definitely give it a shot.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Ehh no, avoid it.

    I JUST set up GBT with BoleynModels and Payoneer (First choice, whatever) and they're holding a payment that Katy issues to me on Monday.

    Additionally, I called Payoneer and they told me this money will be returned to Katy, and as such, it'll be probably frozen until further notice.

    So yeah, looks like your best bet is switching to Boleyn Models for now.
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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Ill look into this, Imlive is a good side site for me as well so I don't want to give it up. I thought about going through Boleym Models but then I would have to start another account and I don't want to deal with that free chat whole 99 cents thing again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExoticBeauty4U View Post
    Ill look into this, Imlive is a good side site for me as well so I don't want to give it up. I thought about going through Boleym Models but then I would have to start another account and I don't want to deal with that free chat whole 99 cents thing again.
    Yes, that's why I haven't gone through Boleyn. I've been with ImLive a long while and Imlive refuses to transfer, will only let me make a new account.

    I'd have to give up my extra percent I get for being a veteran host plus would have to go back to free chat 99 cents and all that. If anyone is joining ImLive brand new or hasn't worked there long it's a great option to go through Boleynmodels and I'd definitely go that route.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Thing is, Payoneer is the vanilla arm of FirstChoice, they're the same company. I'm not sure exactly how they'll handle this as they moved to FCP for a reason in the first place.
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    Im also at boleyn - couldn't recommend it more than i do!
    Katy is working mega hard for us to find a new system!

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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    So this is interesting, I still got my payoneer card, it's linked to an affiliate company (pure leverage) for me. Which is the only reason I still kept the card.

    But Imlive is offering Paxum my account luckily is already activated with it. so since Imlive is pretty much my only site I can't get check in the mail from. they will be my "test" account for Paxum. Everything else I am doing is back to normal. which means I can enjoy my trip worry free.
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    I'm still panicking (((( I heard many bad things about Paxum...idk what to do and how to explain this situation to my parents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bananabunny View Post
    I'm still panicking (((( I heard many bad things about Paxum...idk what to do and how to explain this situation to my parents
    If you have to explain it to them your freelance company screwed up their payment system to pay you.

    People have HR/payroll problems at their jobs all the time. The thing about working online is that , our safety net or emergency plan are very limited. like not likely you can walk into a cash advance place and get a payday loan. since for us everything is tied up into e-wallets and a cyber space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minniesoporno View Post
    If you have to explain it to them your freelance company screwed up their payment system to pay you.

    People have HR/payroll problems at their jobs all the time. The thing about working online is that , our safety net or emergency plan are very limited. like not likely you can walk into a cash advance place and get a payday loan. since for us everything is tied up into e-wallets and a cyber space.
    Oh don't worry my parents know what I'm doing as I still live at home with thin walls! But they definitely aren't 100% comfortable with the way I pay my bills and complain each month that I'm allegedly not making enough and there are "better" jobs for me (not true, some of my friends make WAY LESSER in their ~~normal~~ jobs of 8-10 hours work per day and they end up exhausted and depressed. Makes me proud to be a sexworker for that reason)

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    My parents were way uncomfortable with my work as well until they decided to visit me overseas and got a look at just how nice Im living. Im the oldest of 5 kids and they are all basically still living off my parents full time. When my parents saw how posh my life is and realized that I have never asked them for a dime since I left school they suddenly got all tranquil about the whole thing. I mean they dont want to know the details but I think they have figured out that there could be worse things for me.

    Kudos to your parents for being so cool. They dont have to be excited that your working in this industry they just have to respect your decision. Your very fortunate.

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    https://discord.gg/PfNWFhR - were on here too girls talking about it too
    awesome! I am trying it out, not familiar with discord and keep losing my place. How do I find the chat screen again, closed it out somehow. Is it a particular channel within the channel. (sorry am a total newbie).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    My parents were way uncomfortable with my work as well until they decided to visit me overseas and got a look at just how nice Im living. Im the oldest of 5 kids and they are all basically still living off my parents full time. When my parents saw how posh my life is and realized that I have never asked them for a dime since I left school they suddenly got all tranquil about the whole thing. I mean they dont want to know the details but I think they have figured out that there could be worse things for me.

    Kudos to your parents for being so cool. They dont have to be excited that your working in this industry they just have to respect your decision. Your very fortunate.
    Since before being a camgirl I used to live off my parents and now I'm paying THEM things when they are broke sometimes (especially my mom whom hasn't found work ever since I was born) they are happy to see I'm more independent and I'm basically paying back what I took from them as a kid! They also see how I became happier and blossomed into a better person since I became a camgirl. This job is a miracle to me as I was a hopeless fat piece of shit before who couldn't get shit right in life. This job saved my ass LOL

    Yet as it is as a parents nature, and I can absolutely understand them in that matter, they are worried for my future as this job won't last forever. They wish for me to pursue another education in the future and maybe this will happen if I'm motivated enough. Yet if I ever get a normal job I will ALWAYS cam part time still. This job is just too good to be true sometimes LOL

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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    OK so apparently ImLive has some kind of special arrangement with Payoneer now that will allow direct deposit into a bank account only. No Payoneer card is available for this. I was sent a link today and got the email from Payoneer that my ImLive account was under review, then 30 minutes later got an approval email from Payoneer.

    I had to sign up for a different account because my old email I used with the account kept saying it was in use. I'm very pleased the money will go right to my bank. Their pay period ends on Sunday so I'm hoping to see my ImLive money in my account sent Monday and maybe in my bank Wednesday or Thursday.

    I'll update here what happens and what the fees total. I'm really hoping it is like FirstChoice's Streamate deposits were and only costs me $1.50. (Also I'm hoping if this works out that other companies use the service too, if they can't give us straightforward direct deposit.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    ^ i used to use it for the other daily pay service and it would take 2 days . i'm wondering why sm doesn't just use that feature...because its basically like a forwarded direct deposit
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    Payoneer is alive, I called First Choice today. I have Payoneer for Fiverr, but since this all happened I'll switch to direct deposit or paypal with Fiverr. As far as my adult work camming and clips, I'm signed up with Boleyn Studios....THANK GOD!! Doing DD with Katy and no problem. First choice is freezing funds that went out after the 9th. Customs4u I'll now have to wait up to 90 days, because funds are frozen on way back to who payed, fuck them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by h0ttie View Post
    ^ i used to use it for the other daily pay service and it would take 2 days . i'm wondering why sm doesn't just use that feature...because its basically like a forwarded direct deposit
    I read that's what SM is looking into, some sort of forwarded direct deposit (not Payoneer but another service) because banks in the US and Canada won't let them use direct deposit through them for an adult site, has to be through a third party.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Danep, in the FirstChoice Pay thread said

    Existing users of bank transfers from selected websites should continue to receive payments at the moment.
    Funds that are already on the cards can be used, new payments will not be loaded, because we no longer have the infrastructure to do so.

    So I wouldn't get too excited that the bank transfers are still working, it looks like that will stop in time too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Classy_Katy View Post
    Danep, in the FirstChoice Pay thread said

    Existing users of bank transfers from selected websites should continue to receive payments at the moment.
    Funds that are already on the cards can be used, new payments will not be loaded, because we no longer have the infrastructure to do so.

    So I wouldn't get too excited that the bank transfers are still working, it looks like that will stop in time too.
    Right, bank transfers aren't working for FirstChoice, not at all and won't work because they are shut down.

    Payoneer isn't shut down though and they are setting this up as a new service. They didn't use ChoiceBank so they weren't frozen. I had to do a whole new account, adding my bank in there through ImLive's link and make a new login and a new email. As far as I know ImLive are the only ones they are working with so far.


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    Default Re: Apparently Payoneer is not actually dead?

    Got my email from Payoneer that my ImLive money was transferred to my bank. The first email came yesterday saying "you have received a payment" and then today it said "payment transferred to your linked bank" so I'm guessing the money will be in my bank Thursday or Friday. The fee was $3.


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    Nice, glad for u, i wish sm would use this optioon too atleast temporarily until they offer a different one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    Nice, glad for u, i wish sm would use this optioon too atleast temporarily until they offer a different one.
    So do I. I read they don't want to work with them because they were associated with FirstChoice and have a lot of their funds on hold that they haven't released.


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