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    Hi Ladies,

    So what with all the ridiculous UK porn laws and the potential of age verification on all porn sites for UK people.
    Is it still possible to have your own porn site/subscription website? Will be expensive/pain in the ass to comply with the age verification?

    I have looked into options like model centro and I think the 60% is pretty low cut considering they provide no traffic.

    And the second part of my question is, what exactly qualifies as an 18+ porn site? If I built a website that just had non nude pics but linked out to my cam/clip sites is this classed as a porn site where age verification is needed?

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    You can set up a self hosted blog that is non-nude and links to your cam profile. because you are monetizing off adult services online, you would need an adult friendly hosting service. that is the minimum requirement for majority of hosting companies.

    because you can not make an account on blogger or wordpress with non-nude photos and promoting your links to your adult content sites

    You might not need model centro if that is your plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Hi Ladies,

    So what with all the ridiculous UK porn laws and the potential of age verification on all porn sites for UK people.
    Is it still possible to have your own porn site/subscription website? Will be expensive/pain in the ass to comply with the age verification?
    I'm in the UK and have my own paysite, and I'm considering closing it down because if I have to set up age verification, I'm just not going to be able to afford it. The age verification solutions I'm aware of at the moment (the biggest one is MindGeek - owners of pornhub, etc) all charge significant amounts (from 50p - £1.50) to age verify. And you will need to age verify *every* visitor to the site, not just visitors who join, so unless you're charging huge membership fees, or have a very large paying membership, it's going to be very difficult to not make a loss.

    However, until the BBFC releases their guidelines, it's going to be hard to tell what services are going to need to be behind age verification.

    If you want to read more about the details, Pandora Blake (http://pandorablake.com/blog) has written about it quite extensively, and has a good list of other resources to read

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    Quote Originally Posted by notameercat View Post
    I'm in the UK and have my own paysite, and I'm considering closing it down because if I have to set up age verification, I'm just not going to be able to afford it. The age verification solutions I'm aware of at the moment (the biggest one is MindGeek - owners of pornhub, etc) all charge significant amounts (from 50p - £1.50) to age verify. And you will need to age verify *every* visitor to the site, not just visitors who join, so unless you're charging huge membership fees, or have a very large paying membership, it's going to be very difficult to not make a loss.

    However, until the BBFC releases their guidelines, it's going to be hard to tell what services are going to need to be behind age verification.

    If you want to read more about the details, Pandora Blake (http://pandorablake.com/blog) has written about it quite extensively, and has a good list of other resources to read
    Thank you for this info.

    So sites like Myfreecams/Chaturbate/Adultwork they too would be charged between 50p-1.50 per visitor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Thank you for this info.

    So sites like Myfreecams/Chaturbate/Adultwork they too would be charged between 50p-1.50 per visitor?
    Being that those sorts of sites are so huge, they'd probably be able to get much more favourable rates than smaller sites, but unless they set up their own age verification solution, they would be paying someone else to do it for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by notameercat View Post
    Being that those sorts of sites are so huge, they'd probably be able to get much more favourable rates than smaller sites, but unless they set up their own age verification solution, they would be paying someone else to do it for them
    Wow that's not good. I assume this is only for their UK visitors right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Wow that's not good. I assume this is only for their UK visitors right?
    In theory yes, but pretty much every site out there has UK visitors so will need to set it up.

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    Do you ladies think we (models) will feel a financial impact when this happens?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Do you ladies think we (models) will feel a financial impact when this happens?
    Absolutely. 1)Not every site will be able to afford age verification 2)not every customer will want to sign up for it. There was a consultation on it recently, not sure if they will release the outcome of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winnipeg View Post
    Absolutely. 1)Not every site will be able to afford age verification 2)not every customer will want to sign up for it. There was a consultation on it recently, not sure if they will release the outcome of that.
    But then US guys (which is probably the biggest section of the market for most porn sites) will be able to freely go onto a porn site with no age verification at all?
    Surely as it's only UK visitors it's only affecting a small portion of the market.
    Or have I got this wrong and infact anywhere in the world will have to get past the age verification?
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    Quote Originally Posted by notameercat View Post
    Being that those sorts of sites are so huge, they'd probably be able to get much more favourable rates than smaller sites, but unless they set up their own age verification solution, they would be paying someone else to do it for them
    Right now it looks like that someone will me Mindgeek owners of Pornhub. The company will be called AgeID

    A recent statement from AgeID: James Clark, AgeID spokesperson, said: “We have created a fast, private, secure, user-friendly tool to comply with the impending UK legislation. Due to our non-intrusive approach to age verification and our reliance on 3rd party providers, customers are safe in the knowledge that their age verification data cannot be compromised. Adult site owners gain the benefit of being part of a huge trusted network of adult sites which allows users to browse freely between them. We are proud to sponsor the SHAFTAs which brings adult sites, content creators, customers, and actors together for a summer event not to be missed!” source I'm pretty sure AgeID will be for the big dogs and not the little people in the adult industry.

    BUT there are other companies working hard to find a solution for small business owners. The problem is it's still up in the air and no one really knows when it will happen and how to prepare for it. From my research I'm not even sure how much of a budget to put aside for it because the smaller companies aren't giving out prices yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Do you ladies think we (models) will feel a financial impact when this happens?
    The models that I think may have the hardest time adapting to this are the ones who are

    1. Not paying attention
    2. Aren't using their own self hosted website and are relying on platforms to implement the changes for them.

    If those platforms decide it's too expensive then you're stuck trying to put a site together, possibly at the last minute. Or what if they decide to take a chance with their platform and not use age verification? That could present a problem for adult content creators using that option. At least with your own site you can do the research and make your own decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post

    The models that I think may have the hardest time adapting to this are the ones who are

    1. Not paying attention
    2. Aren't using their own self hosted website and are relying on platforms to implement the changes for them.

    If those platforms decide it's too expensive then you're stuck trying to put a site together, possibly at the last minute. Or what if they decide to take a chance with their platform and not use age verification? That could present a problem for adult content creators using that option. At least with your own site you can do the research and make your own decisions.
    Thank you for that insight.
    That's the worrying part as a UK model, I can't have my own site. I am reliant on platforms only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    But then US guys (which is probably the biggest section of the market for most porn sites) will be able to freely go onto a porn site with no age verification at all?
    Surely as it's only UK visitors it's only affecting a small portion of the market.
    Or have I got this wrong and infact anywhere in the world will have to get past the age verification?
    It depends on what your offering. USA is probably the largest, but definitely in the top 5 is UK customers. So sites who have users from around the world like manyvids for example will have to sign up for the age verification to age verify UK customers. Now what if they decide not to? It means UK customers won't be buying from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Thank you for that insight.
    That's the worrying part as a UK model, I can't have my own site. I am reliant on platforms only.

    Do you think Niteflirt is a small company?
    Yes and no. I think their mentality surrounding growth and business is small. They've been around for a very long time and I'd like to think that they'd chip in for some sort of utility that provides age verification for the UK. I'm not sure if they'd do it right away however. Because I remember a time when they left a lot of British money on the table because they didn't have a way to connect those calls or process payments. They won't even work out a way to efficiently pay UK flirts sooo? Sorry for the negativity, but at least you're asking questions and trying to see what needs to be done. Maybe NF has more proactive people in place now because I know they have lots of money flowing through that platform.

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    Well yeah, ignoring it will only land me in shit. I have a plan though as a UK performer. I already wanted to step out the industry as much as I can, it's proven to not be 100% reliable in terms of steady income and I think my interests have dwindled over the years. So I pretty much plan to cash in as much as possible until this age verification comes into place, get money behind me. Whilst spending some time setting up ventures/learning necessary skills to step out the industry.
    Once it comes into play if it affects my adult income then it won't matter so much to me, if it doesn't then I have the choice to continue or not regardless.

    To be honest as a UK model I feel somewhat insecure in this industry nowadays.
    I'm unable to have a website or even willing to put the effort into having a website due to the UK regulations. Plus I do femdom which severely narrows down the type of femdom content I can perform anyway. And I am in no doubt that will continue to happen.
    I simply struggle to have much interest in this industry anymore due to the constant flow of disruptions/regulations coming into play. It happens more in this industry than most and it can kill a business overnight. It saddens me to put so much hard work into something and have a new law enforced to say it can no longer happen.

    Best solution, get out the industry as much as possible. Use it as a method of extra income rather than total income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Thank you for this info.

    So sites like Myfreecams/Chaturbate/Adultwork they too would be charged between 50p-1.50 per visitor?
    it depends on the program you choose for the sites, some have payout flat rate per sign up, some have revenue share lifetime of the customer, and pay per lead like $1 to $3 per verified lead sign up.

    There are hundreds of adult live cam and dating site programs out there to choose from. plus also your model performer link as well. the thin about promoting the affiliate link from the affiliate side is that even if you are not a model on that particular site you can still make money for a lifetime as long as your self-hosted blog is active along with the appropriate links going in the right places. then it becomes trick of updating payment information and mailing addresses over the years for all sources of incomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    But then US guys (which is probably the biggest section of the market for most porn sites) will be able to freely go onto a porn site with no age verification at all?
    Surely as it's only UK visitors it's only affecting a small portion of the market.
    Or have I got this wrong and infact anywhere in the world will have to get past the age verification?
    sites teir level their customer based and sign up based. and also that is how they filter which sites to block off. teir 1 traffic tends to be US/Canada, UK/Australia. those are the big spenders in online shopping and even porn. then they branch off to the next high spending countries as more countries get credit cards and then they have to shift through their adult content registrations or laws. which is why VPNs are popular.

    to worry about the legal details really depends on how much volume of traffic are doing and where your web traffic is coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Well yeah, ignoring it will only land me in shit. I have a plan though as a UK performer. I already wanted to step out the industry as much as I can, it's proven to not be 100% reliable in terms of steady income and I think my interests have dwindled over the years. So I pretty much plan to cash in as much as possible until this age verification comes into place, get money behind me. Whilst spending some time setting up ventures/learning necessary skills to step out the industry.
    Once it comes into play if it affects my adult income then it won't matter so much to me, if it doesn't then I have the choice to continue or not regardless.

    To be honest as a UK model I feel somewhat insecure in this industry nowadays.
    I'm unable to have a website or even willing to put the effort into having a website due to the UK regulations. Plus I do femdom which severely narrows down the type of femdom content I can perform anyway. And I am in no doubt that will continue to happen.
    I simply struggle to have much interest in this industry anymore due to the constant flow of disruptions/regulations coming into play. It happens more in this industry than most and it can kill a business overnight. It saddens me to put so much hard work into something and have a new law enforced to say it can no longer happen.

    Best solution, get out the industry as much as possible. Use it as a method of extra income rather than total income.
    This is why it is is good to have a business outside of adult entertainment. for example: if you were learning affiliate marketing in the mainstream market, you would have to follow email privacy, internet cookies for the UK there is probably more you would need to know for the UK, but from what I've seen from the UK internet marketers I know that is what they've been posting about lately. and the ones I know have adapted quickly with what looks like no interrupting their businesses from what I can tell they are rolling with the punches and are still walking on stages at the internet marketing events celebrating their big commission checks.
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