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    Yeah, you heard that right. This was in the news today. Here they go. My massage business took a dive after the govt passed their bill in April. Im still trying to recover. I’ll be damned if they start coming for the porn industry. What.the.fuck.
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    No it's not porn.....the bitch even said herself ..... its "lack of parental guidance"

    that and the systems (guidance counselor, cps, reporting systems) looking the other way when they see warning signs

    There should be metal detectors in schools and security patrolling parking lots of schools.

    Legislators need reform but they can't keep pointing fingers at issues that aren't related to the problem at hand. THis broad is mad her husband most likely watching porn instead of her so she has a personal axe to grind against porn.
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    If you listen to the audio, shes also mad at him for watching violent movies which was kind of funny.
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    ^^^true......"Black said school shootings are on the rise because of the “deterioration of the family,” mental illness and violent movies."

    I agree some of these movies and video games are WAY to violent for developing minds.

    Parents should be held accountable. They know little Johnny ain't right and yet they blow it off like oh he just killed the family pet but he's just going through puberty. They also should not have their guns where little Johnny can get to them.

    Plus just a fact that a very small percentage of kids that commit mass murders are just plain sociopaths/psychopaths ...... they don't like to label kids with mental health labels but hell it is what it is

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    Youtube has started censoring "violent music" by taking down videos which *apparently* promote it, didn't they already have this debate in the 90s? Next they'll be coming for us and taking down sites/content of a sexual nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    No it's not porn.....the bitch even said herself ..... its "lack of parental guidance"

    that and the systems (guidance counselor, cps, reporting systems) looking the other way when they see warning signs

    There should be metal detectors in schools and security patrolling parking lots of schools.

    Legislators need reform but they can't keep pointing fingers at issues that are related to the problem at hand. THis broad is mad her husband most likely watching porn instead of her so she has a personal axe to grind against porn.
    Totally agree with you. They’re focusing on everything except the problem.

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    LOL this bitch is an ignorant idiot! And yes, her comment was driven by her own personal vendetta against porn. People with violent tendencies usually have that in them very young, before they even see their first porno. When they slip through the cracks and their behavior is not corrected that is when big problems start to happen; porn does not cause it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winnipeg View Post
    Youtube has started censoring "violent music" by taking down videos which *apparently* promote it, didn't they already have this debate in the 90s? Next they'll be coming for us and taking down sites/content of a sexual nature.
    Yes it used to be rock and metal they blamed, Marilyn Manson was the devil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by winnipeg View Post
    Youtube has started censoring "violent music" by taking down videos which *apparently* promote it, didn't they already have this debate in the 90s? Next they'll be coming for us and taking down sites/content of a sexual nature.
    And then Sexual music will have to come down as well. Worth it to stop school shootings though right?

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    Well, I must say at least this more original than the "gaming and horrormovies make kids violent".

    If anything I'd say that guys get more laidback after stroking their dicks to porn.
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    I think it has something to do with conservative people thinking that porn makes young impressionable men more prone to violence against women. She may be referring to the misogynistic porn - idk.

    The teen in this incident got rejected by a female classmate he liked _ I believe is the story here. But then again I don't recall reading anywhere of him being addicted to/watching porns.

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    *facepalm*

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    I really think that article started off about how Porn is the devil because they needed something catchy for clickbait and to drive traffic to their article to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    I think it has something to do with conservative people thinking that porn makes young impressionable men more prone to violence against women. She may be referring to the misogynistic porn - idk.

    The teen in this incident got rejected by a female classmate he liked _ I believe is the story here. But then again I don't recall reading anywhere of him being addicted to/watching porns.
    I'm not conservative at all and yes i believe that porn is evil. What do you mean by misogynistic porn? All porn is made by men to please men and as i'm sure that everyone noticed,it becomes more and more violent. In porn women are objectified. They are not humans but pretty objects that can be bought/aquired. If the actual porn culture tells men that they are entitled to women why is there any shock that there will be some men that will snap and start killing?
    And yes,i was harassed on street by men and some got verbally abusive towards me after i told them "no". Most men don't understand this word. They think that no=keep trying. And i always tried to be polite.Just imagine if i actually told them to fuck off...
    15 years ago men entered on cam to see women coyly touching themselves.Now they bark:" Naked fast! Dildo that ass and pussy for me slut!" Why? Because they can see porn for free.The only incentive that camming gives them is the fact that they get to treat us like objects,live. Do you think this men change after they turn off their computers? I had clients masturbate in the same room with their sleeping wifes/gfs.

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    I'm not conservative at all and yes i believe that porn is evil. What do you mean by misogynistic porn? All porn is made by men to please men and as i'm sure that everyone noticed,it becomes more and more violent. In porn women are objectified. They are not humans but pretty objects that can be bought/aquired. If the actual porn culture tells men that they are entitled to women why is there any shock that there will be some men that will snap and start killing?
    And yes,i was harassed on street by men and some got verbally abusive towards me after i told them "no". Most men don't understand this word. They think that no=keep trying. And i always tried to be polite.Just imagine if i actually told them to fuck off...
    15 years ago men entered on cam to see women coyly touching themselves.Now they bark:" Naked fast! Dildo that ass and pussy for me slut!" Why? Because they can see porn for free.The only incentive that camming gives them is the fact that they get to treat us like objects,live. Do you think this men change after they turn off their computers? I had clients masturbate in the same room with their sleeping wifes/gfs.
    Im really in shocked at this. So you work on Cam but your believe that porn is evil?? Do you also expect to go to hell?? Why would you want to live this life then? Anyone on this planet could make these claims by pulling out the ugliest sides of porn and posting them up here to paint this picture but its not accurate. Porn is not only made by men. Many ladies are shooting porn, either on their own, or they just have a company and hire other girls and boys to shoot. How many porn sets have you worked on because I have been a porn star and cam girl for 13 years and I can attest to the fact that of the 3 BIGGEST porn companies out there one of them is dedicated to making films that appeal only to women viewers, I dont think I am allowed to post names here but I have names of them and other companies. Plus I can tell you that the owner of that company was a huge puppy dog who never ever ever asked me to do something I didnt want to do and didnt even blink an eye when my husband was on set with us. He usually just put him to work moving lights and stuff.

    Many of my fulll porn movies were shot by women producers! Maybe men own the companies that bought and sold the end product by it was women shooting it. I work with and am super good friends with a company here in Europe that shoots very hardcore porn. They slap, choke, spit, I saw a girl having her head held under water while being fucked etc etc. Its not for me, I hate it but the first time I went to shoot with them (before we were friends) I told them I dont want any of that and they didnt question me for one second. They just shot me having sex. Now that Im friends with the guy who does all the shoots I know that he doesnt even care about all that stuff. He is happier not doing it but he knows its click bait and lots of girls want him to do stuff like that cause they want to stand out!

    I was on cam 13 years ago and no man wanted to see me coyly touching myself. Pervs still existed 13 years ago and Im willing to bet that they were also there 15 years ago. There always was the guy who wanted to rush me and see me put a coke bottle in my ass. I just said no. Almost all of my biggest spenders are today and always have been the most vanilla guys just looking for a blowjob, some dirty talk or masturbation. Do you ever watch the girls on cam who offer the really hardcore (Ill fuck my bedpost) stuff?? Cause they dont spend 100% of their time in Privates and if they start a gold show or set a target they are just as likely to fail as any other girl on cam offering nothing more then tits! Most guys dont care about that stuff. Its a freak show mentality, a curiosity more then a turn on for most.

    I think your a bit bitter about your job because you get to see the worst side of men but try not to focus on those morons and instead spend your energy on those who are not like that.

    Also Miss.a.p is 100% correct. This was just click bait. You write the words "porn" or "school shooting" and people want to know more plain and simple.

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    It really is amusing to see what is painted as evil, destroying the youth, every decade.

    Porn has issues. It can be racist and misogynistic, and borderline rape depending on what you’re watching. Should we change that? Probably. Is changing our porn going to decrease shootings (or for that matter, any type of crime)? Hmm... I doubt it.

    I think the NRA is really going to be in trouble when the next generation of students who endured fears of school shootings starts running the country.

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    Sorry but I do not believe that porn grew more violent over time. Lot of pornography was violent, misogynistic, and racist way before film was invented. For example, no porn film will ever match the dangerous brutality of " 120 days of Sodom" by De Sade. Nor has any porn ever matched the sheer apathy, brutal misogyny, and super racism of "The Torture Garden" or "Venus in Furs".These are all pornography from before the 20th century. However, these are just extreme cases of porn. Pornography is what you make it. Women have been making porn just as long as men have. Some of directors and producers as well as actresses. Now, many of us produce clips that actually interest us. For example, I never produce clips that makes me feel uncomfortable. Throughout the centuries, many men have barked orders towards women and this will never change. We just have more rights, we can fight back,and can speak up more now.

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    I'm not conservative at all and yes i believe that porn is evil. What do you mean by misogynistic porn? All porn is made by men to please men and as i'm sure that everyone noticed,it becomes more and more violent. In porn women are objectified. They are not humans but pretty objects that can be bought/aquired. If the actual porn culture tells men that they are entitled to women why is there any shock that there will be some men that will snap and start killing?
    And yes,i was harassed on street by men and some got verbally abusive towards me after i told them "no". Most men don't understand this word. They think that no=keep trying. And i always tried to be polite.Just imagine if i actually told them to fuck off...
    15 years ago men entered on cam to see women coyly touching themselves.Now they bark:" Naked fast! Dildo that ass and pussy for me slut!" Why? Because they can see porn for free.The only incentive that camming gives them is the fact that they get to treat us like objects,live. Do you think this men change after they turn off their computers? I had clients masturbate in the same room with their sleeping wifes/gfs.
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    This is an interesting subject, i did some porn in the late 90's and i never came across certain things which i am now regularly requested to do on cam, some things like gagging and squirting i had to google to see what the fuck they were lol. In my opinion things which used to be in the realm of bdsm (gagging, begging for cum etc) are now in mainstream. The majority of guys in my cam room like tits and pussy and the ones who ask me for anything extreme get bollocked or laughed at.

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    Im really in shocked at this. So you work on Cam but your believe that porn is evil?? Do you also expect to go to hell?? Why would you want to live this life then? Anyone on this planet could make these claims by pulling out the ugliest sides of porn and posting them up here to paint this picture but its not accurate. Porn is not only made by men. Many ladies are shooting porn, either on their own, or they just have a company and hire other girls and boys to shoot. How many porn sets have you worked on because I have been a porn star and cam girl for 13 years and I can attest to the fact that of the 3 BIGGEST porn companies out there one of them is dedicated to making films that appeal only to women viewers, I dont think I am allowed to post names here but I have names of them and other companies. Plus I can tell you that the owner of that company was a huge puppy dog who never ever ever asked me to do something I didnt want to do and didnt even blink an eye when my husband was on set with us. He usually just put him to work moving lights and stuff.

    Many of my fulll porn movies were shot by women producers! Maybe men own the companies that bought and sold the end product by it was women shooting it. I work with and am super good friends with a company here in Europe that shoots very hardcore porn. They slap, choke, spit, I saw a girl having her head held under water while being fucked etc etc. Its not for me, I hate it but the first time I went to shoot with them (before we were friends) I told them I dont want any of that and they didnt question me for one second. They just shot me having sex. Now that Im friends with the guy who does all the shoots I know that he doesnt even care about all that stuff. He is happier not doing it but he knows its click bait and lots of girls want him to do stuff like that cause they want to stand out!

    I was on cam 13 years ago and no man wanted to see me coyly touching myself. Pervs still existed 13 years ago and Im willing to bet that they were also there 15 years ago. There always was the guy who wanted to rush me and see me put a coke bottle in my ass. I just said no. Almost all of my biggest spenders are today and always have been the most vanilla guys just looking for a blowjob, some dirty talk or masturbation. Do you ever watch the girls on cam who offer the really hardcore (Ill fuck my bedpost) stuff?? Cause they dont spend 100% of their time in Privates and if they start a gold show or set a target they are just as likely to fail as any other girl on cam offering nothing more then tits! Most guys dont care about that stuff. Its a freak show mentality, a curiosity more then a turn on for most.

    I think your a bit bitter about your job because you get to see the worst side of men but try not to focus on those morons and instead spend your energy on those who are not like that.

    Also Miss.a.p is 100% correct. This was just click bait. You write the words "porn" or "school shooting" and people want to know more plain and simple.


    No,i do not expect to go to hell because i don't believe in any religious garbage. There may be girls like you that are not forced to do things that they do not agree with.But there are many many others who agree to do something and after the camera starts rolling they are being told that they must accept something else or they will be dropped...of course they will accept because they need the money and there is competition...there is always another girl who will do the nastiest shit for $$$.
    A lot of the girls in porn have to take pills,alcohol or drugs because the hardcore sex actually happens and it is actually painful. There are even big porn starts that told the truth of how they were treated in this industry. Please,don't paint it as nice and women friendly.It generally isn't. They want to make $$$ and the demand is now for violent porn. The demand is for "slut gets fucked in all her holes" kind of movies.
    As for camming, i have a friend who used to work on Streamate and was always on the first row doing gold shows.She basically staid there and begged for money("c'mon guys pledge"-i'm sure you all know this kind of girls-they happen to be on the first rows,aha) and offered things that she was not comfortable doing....but she had to do. She told me:" This is how you make money.There is no other way. The competition is fierce! When you see the rest fucking with huge dildos and huge vegetables in all their holes,how do you think that you can make any serious $$$ from some clitoral play or dildo in pussy masturbation?" She made good money on Streamate.Very rare privates and always gold shows. Even when she had failed gold shows she re-started them with cheaper prices and more begging. She told me that she had the same customers came to her over and over to see the same show where she was doing vaginal,oral and anal play with "squirt"-peeing on her bed. It amazed her that they didn't get bored of the same lame shows she was putting on(she named her shows lame-not me).
    I know there are girls who don't have to do nasty things and are still making good money.But my comment was about the massive shooting and the role porn plays in it. I do believe that violent porn influences greatly the way in which men treat women. A lot of men don't have a common sense really(especially young ones that have no guidance from their parents). Many men expect things that they see in porn from their gfs and are persuading them to "try new stuff" and to be "open minded". There were rapists who copied scenarios they saw in porn. Not all porn is bad but a lot of it is. This was pretty much what i was trying to say.

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    Sorry but I do not believe that porn grew more violent over time. Lot of pornography was violent, misogynistic, and racist way before film was invented. For example, no porn film will ever match the dangerous brutality of " 120 days of Sodom" by De Sade. Nor has any porn ever matched the sheer apathy, brutal misogyny, and super racism of "The Torture Garden" or "Venus in Furs".These are all pornography from before the 20th century. However, these are just extreme cases of porn. Pornography is what you make it. Women have been making porn just as long as men have. Some of directors and producers as well as actresses. Now, many of us produce clips that actually interest us. For example, I never produce clips that makes me feel uncomfortable. Throughout the centuries, many men have barked orders towards women and this will never change. We just have more rights, we can fight back,and can speak up more now.
    Yes,there was violent porn in the past. I totally agree with you but not as accessible as porn is today. Even a 7 year old can access porn this days and a lot of them learn about sex through porn. They learn misogyny,racism and sexism because of porn and apply it in real life. And a lot of them lose the joy of having a true relationship with a woman. They have sex and play in their heads their favorite scenes from porn. They are not there connected to their partner but somewhere in their imagination.

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    Yes BDSM is now in the mainstream and not just that but it is actually being pushed as something "empowering" and "open minded'. Not wanting to do some things will automatically put you in the "vanilla-prude" undesirable cave-woman. If there was violent porn in the past it doesn't serve as a justification for violent porn to continue to exist today. In my country a few years ago there were 7 men who raped a teen.They said that they saw it in porn. The girl cried and passed out and they continued to rape her because:" this is how bitches love it".The parents of this 7 young guys didn't think that it was that bad...they actually blamed the girl.
    And this is just 1 example. But there are so so many others. Sadistic rapists admited of using porn after they were caught,pedophiles had pedophile porn on their pcs and phones after they were caught.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzi View Post
    .But there are many many others who agree to do something and after the camera starts rolling they are being told that they must accept something else or they will be dropped...of course they will accept because they need the money and there is competition...there is always another girl who will do the nastiest shit for $$$.

    Everything in bold here shows that you recognize that the women in these scenes have a choice. So lets be clear. These women are not kidnapped and sold into the sex industry they are CHOOSING to do porn and can refuse anything they want to refuse. You claim that if they do there will be financial consequences but I argue there really isnt! Its not that if you say no to Porn company A today company B wont shoot you tomorrow. That is a lie! The problem is that after 3 months you will have worked for every porn company out there and in order to keep making the money you did in the first 3 months you have to do the work yourself not sell your soul but actually make your own content and keep engaged on social media. Its a business but too many girls are to lazy to treat it as such and just expect that they should show up on set and get paid! Doesnt work like that. NO ONE is forcing them to do this! They can walk away and let the other girl who will do the nastiest shit for $$ take the job.

    A lot of the girls in porn have to take pills,alcohol or drugs because the hardcore sex actually happens and it is actually painful. There are even big porn starts that told the truth of how they were treated in this industry. Please,don't paint it as nice and women friendly.It generally isn't.

    No sorry. No one HAS TO take drugs or alcohol. That is a choice. Yes sometimes the hardcore scenes are hard on your body but that is true for also carpenters and fitness instructors and a whole slew of mainstream jobs! Its your body. Its you choice.


    As for camming, i have a friend who used to work on Streamate and was always on the first row doing gold shows.She basically staid there and begged for money("c'mon guys pledge"-i'm sure you all know this kind of girls-they happen to be on the first rows,aha) and offered things that she was not comfortable doing....but she had to do. She told me:" This is how you make money.There is no other way. The competition is fierce! When you see the rest fucking with huge dildos and huge vegetables in all their holes,how do you think that you can make any serious $$$ from some clitoral play or dildo in pussy masturbation?" She made good money on Streamate.Very rare privates and always gold shows. Even when she had failed gold shows she re-started them with cheaper prices and more begging.

    I am a top row SM girl and I have been for 7ish years. Top row. The very first row. I do not discount my price, I do not do only GS. I do not do ANYTHING Im uncomfortable with!! Not one thing ever. I make lots of $ off these guys doing very basic stuff and I even offer hardcore stuff like deepthroating and DP but I enjoy those things so it feels like a walk in the park to my body. Nobody has to compete on SM. That is a misconception because often these models have low self esteem and they believe their self worth is tied to these #'s they see.

    I know there are girls who don't have to do nasty things and are still making good money.But my comment was about the massive shooting and the role porn plays in it. I do believe that violent porn influences greatly the way in which men treat women. A lot of men don't have a common sense really(especially young ones that have no guidance from their parents). Many men expect things that they see in porn from their gfs and are persuading them to "try new stuff" and to be "open minded". There were rapists who copied scenarios they saw in porn. Not all porn is bad but a lot of it is. This was pretty much what i was trying to say.
    You might be right about this but ultimately we cannot fix the big picture we can only fix how a man treats us as an individual. He might come to me thinking he can be "violent" or "abusive" but I will be the catalyst for change in that mans mind. A lot of People do not have common sense. Again its not my problem. They have to figure that out in life just like we all have to but I agree that parenting needs to take it up a notch. Its a different landscape so parenting needs to adapt.

    Again. Its self esteem. If you dont think your worth it and so you sell yourself for less and will do things that hurt your soul then the issue is that your self esteem is low not that porn made you do it! Fix that and the rest is much easier.

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    This is interesting,Panzi.

    Since I started phone sex back in '03, I was more expose to more hardcore stuff due to working at no taboo American and International sites at the time. So, I guess that I am less shocked at the hardcore requests that I get via camming such as gagging. But before that, I read books like "The Torture Garden" and "120 days of Sodom" as teenager. Plus, give how sex was talked about and discussed in my family. Plus, the type of schools that I had attended.... I guess I really never notice violent pornography like you how did. I guess that I just always thought that was apart of many men's dark plus twisted sexuality. During work, I just block creepos and or report them if I need to.But, you raise up some interesting points.


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    Yes,there was violent porn in the past. I totally agree with you but not as accessible as porn is today. Even a 7 year old can access porn this days and a lot of them learn about sex through porn. They learn misogyny,racism and sexism because of porn and apply it in real life. And a lot of them lose the joy of having a true relationship with a woman. They have sex and play in their heads their favorite scenes from porn. They are not there connected to their partner but somewhere in their imagination.
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    I'm so sick of "Her body,her choice" mantra.A carpenter won't have to take pills for pain every day he goes to work.Her male partners on set do not take pills for pain.Only she does.If something harms someone,and we can avoid that,than why not do just that?Why find excuses for sick men who masturbate on this? Why normalize and sexualize abuse? It does affect us all.Back in the day when slavery was still around,there were slaves that said they like being slaves and that they are thankful to their masters for providing shelter and food instead of their labour. And yet,people eventually realized that slavery is not a good thing. But we cannot do the same for women because as long as dicks get hard on something....we should not question it at all. Anyway,i'm not trying to start a dispute here.You can keep your opinion and i will keep mine. Do you masturbate on women being pissed on,gagged,humiliated,spit on,beaten,forced to suck dick until they choke?

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    I dont watch that sort of porn obviously. I wont even shoot that kind of porn. Cept for choking on cock but I really do love that. However it is not "forced" I am willing.

    Yes Carpenters do take pills for pain everyday and not every pornstar takes drugs or alcohol for pain or any other reason. I take nothing cept a vitamin and MSM every morning so I speak from experience and you speak from hearsay.

    I completely agree with you when you say "if something harms someone and we can avoid that than why no do just that?" So why not avoid it?? I do. I say no when they tell me they want to fuck my ass and then my pussy or abuse my tits or spit in my face and smack me. I say no and if its a deal breaker then so what I get the day off.

    Im just saying men arent gonna stop being fucked up so women need to stand up for themselves and look out for themselves! Stop playing the victim and make a difference the only way you can! By not being that girl who allows men to do this sort of thing to you!

    Im not saying that this horrible porn that men watch today is okay but I realize when I am beat. I cant stop that porn from existing or banish it from the internet. No one can so now its our own behavior that makes the difference. Not over dramatizing the situation by claim that porn is not responsible for the most horrendous crimes on this earth.

    The Columbine Shooting was in 1999. There was very little porn on the internet in 1999. It sucked ass! And those boys certainly didnt grow up watching what didnt exist so I guess porn couldnt have been responsible. We know that in this world there are people who are messed up. Porn is a product of that not a cause. How you live your life and the choices you make do make a difference in the big picture. I do porn because I like it. You do it and believe its evil so which one of us is making the better life choice?

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