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    Default Re: Porn is the reason for school shootings

    I don't think that porn is the reason for school shootings. Why is no blame placed on the parents or parental figures of these children who become shooters? I think that the destruction of the family plays a major role. Many kids are growing up in broken homes with struggling single moms, deadbeat dads, families broken up by divorce, no structure or anyone teaching them or setting a good example. The traditional family structure of the 1950's with a happy stay at home mom whose only job was to take care of her kids, husband, and the home isn't reality anymore. More and more single moms are having to work several jobs just to support her family, leaving little time for her kids. Kids are feeling neglected and like no one cares for them and becoming angry, sad, or depressed. Kids unsupervised will give in to peer pressure and want to try to fit in somewhere that they feel loved and accepted, to make up for the void that they feel at home. That's why some kids get involved with gangs, because they feel a sense of family and belonging there. On top of it mental illness such as depression and anxiety has increased among people. It can be situational due to poverty and the stress that comes with that but it can also be genetic as well. Since there's so much stigma towards mental illness many people might not seek the help that they need. They could be too focused on making money just to survive that they don't see the signs in their own children. Video games have become more violent. Movies have become violent. Tv shows are violent too. All of those mediums are desensitizing our children to violence. Violent porn doesn't help either but I do not think that it is the sole reason for school shootings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle2 View Post
    The fact that men can get access to porn at a mouse-click reduces rape, not increases it. Because men can get off just bringing up a video on the internet makes it less likely they'll go out and sexually assault or rape women. This isn't just a hypothetical statement. Over the past 23 years, since internet porn became widespread, sexual assault in the US has decreased 44%. There have also been studies done in other countries where porn was once illegal, and after porn became legal, incidences of rape decreased, not increased. Not only did incidences of rape decrease, but so did child sexual abuse.
    I hate to be "that bitch" but it has to be said: correlation does not imply causation.

    For example, is widespread porn the one and only change in sex and relations that has happened for the past 20 or so years? This attitude towards science is downright offensive. Especially in these times you have to think about proper research and question what is flawed, now this is not that serious because it's just a forum discussion but even in serious debates people do these mistakes all the time (just look at the title of this thread) which is why I even bother to comment now.

    I don't believe in demonising porn, it's much more complex than that, but the logical fallacies you throw out are not helping either, it's just counterproductive shooting yourself and actual scientific approach in the foot.
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    Porn was widespread in print form in the 1970s-80s and school shootings were not a thing then.

    IMO people (rightfully so) are so taken aback by the school shooting problem they are looking for any explanation or possible solution. It sucks when your worst fear about your school day (as an American student) goes from being bullied or being humiliated to being shot to death.
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    Default Re: Porn is the reason for school shootings

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.a.p1600 View Post
    no it's not porn.....the bitch even said herself ..... Its "lack of parental guidance"

    that and the systems (guidance counselor, cps, reporting systems) looking the other way when they see warning signs

    there should be metal detectors in schools and security patrolling parking lots of schools.

    Legislators need reform but they can't keep pointing fingers at issues that aren't related to the problem at hand. This broad is mad her husband most likely watching porn instead of her so she has a personal axe to grind against porn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Likethis View Post
    I hate to be "that bitch" but it has to be said: correlation does not imply causation.

    For example, is widespread porn the one and only change in sex and relations that has happened for the past 20 or so years? This attitude towards science is downright offensive. Especially in these times you have to think about proper research and question what is flawed, now this is not that serious because it's just a forum discussion but even in serious debates people do these mistakes all the time (just look at the title of this thread) which is why I even bother to comment now.

    I don't believe in demonising porn, it's much more complex than that, but the logical fallacies you throw out are not helping either, it's just counterproductive shooting yourself and actual scientific approach in the foot.
    It's not a logical fallacy. Just stating "correlation does not imply causation" doesn't disprove that easier access to pornography reduces sexual assault and rape. Did you read the article I linked to? There have been multiple studies in multiple countries, including the Czech Republic, Denmark, Japan, China, and Hong Kong; and each of these studies have shown that after pornography became legal and more widespread, incidences of sexual assault and rape decreased. That doesn't mean we can say with absolute certainty that pornography is the main reason or only reason why incidences of rape and sexual assault decreased in these countries, but the strong correlation between the two means there is a good chance that it was a factor or major factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendiStarr View Post
    I don't think that porn is the reason for school shootings. Why is no blame placed on the parents or parental figures of these children who become shooters? I think that the destruction of the family plays a major role. Many kids are growing up in broken homes with struggling single moms, deadbeat dads, families broken up by divorce, no structure or anyone teaching them or setting a good example. The traditional family structure of the 1950's with a happy stay at home mom whose only job was to take care of her kids, husband, and the home isn't reality anymore. More and more single moms are having to work several jobs just to support her family, leaving little time for her kids. Kids are feeling neglected and like no one cares for them and becoming angry, sad, or depressed. Kids unsupervised will give in to peer pressure and want to try to fit in somewhere that they feel loved and accepted, to make up for the void that they feel at home. That's why some kids get involved with gangs, because they feel a sense of family and belonging there. On top of it mental illness such as depression and anxiety has increased among people. It can be situational due to poverty and the stress that comes with that but it can also be genetic as well. Since there's so much stigma towards mental illness many people might not seek the help that they need. They could be too focused on making money just to survive that they don't see the signs in their own children. Video games have become more violent. Movies have become violent. Tv shows are violent too. All of those mediums are desensitizing our children to violence. Violent porn doesn't help either but I do not think that it is the sole reason for school shootings.
    Although my dad was absent and I had a good mother there are plenty of dead beat mothers too. As far as the traditional family structure in the 50s it wasn't as perfect as the pictures and stories make it out to be.

    Back in those days people stayed together out of fear of public backlash and many women were battered and routinely being abused and beat with no recourse or money to get away. Children in those days also were abused and sexually molested so they often ran away to the streets to only be abused and beat again by somebody in the streets or by a priest in the church who were supposed to help them.

    Things are much better now but yes some aspects of American life are worse...

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    There are deadbeat mothers (plenty of stories of moms abandoning newborns n shit) but if you look at statistics of the unpaid child support DEBT for every state I will guarantee the vast majority of obligers are MEN.

    People have to learn if you lay down do adult activities you need to be responsible to the kids you bring into the world or else it is highly possible they turn into little menaces to society.

    A lot of parents are quick to separate the family for dumb reasons and lack the maturity to co-parent peacefully or get family therapy.

    One way to support kids and help them have better lives is financially. I bet if these kids who were shooting up schools had someone invest in a healthy sport / extracurricular, invest in some therapy, and spend some time with them it may have helped prevent this. Heck even if they liked shooting shit - there is paintball, lazer tag, even sport trap shooting so you're not really killing anything. Keep them from viewing adult materials as long as possible and explain to them healthy sexuality in an age appropriate manner.
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    I don't think porn is the cause of mass shootings, but I do feel as if it is decreasing the worth of women in a way.

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    WHAT THE HELL? I don't even wanna read the article because no, just no. I'm sure porn is slightly responsible for a handful of sex crimes and attitudes towards women but I would say school schootings are caused more by violent media (not rough porn, but gory movies and games and things like that) and all of the coverage and notoriety that the people who commit mass shootings recieve.

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    The reason why we have school shootings as well as wars, rape, genocide, and other horrific events in history is because of MALE AGGRESSION. Male aggression is the core issue.

    Porn is just a particular entertainment venue that people want blame, but long before porn as we know it was made, male aggression was still widespread and prevalent.

    The school shootings is just another outlet of male aggression carried out by weak willed cowards who can't face lifes challenges, can't handle female rejection, they want notoriety, and they want to go out with a "bang".

    Today's mass shooters are no different from the male killers from the serial killer era (1960s to the 1990s) except they chose to remain anonymous and kill multiple people one by one up close and personal which thankfully is largely over due to advancements in forensics and 24/7/365 CCTV everywhere.
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    I actually listened the audio and she said a few things:

    1. deterioration of the family. No family support.
    2. violent movies.
    3. Porn. “All of this is available without parental guidance."

    I agree with the first two, and I believe those are the key points that she wanted to mention. Then she threw porn into it and was trying to preach some Christian moral compass out there to stir the pot. Big fail!


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    There is a serious lack of mental health care available in many states. I remember seeing an episode of 60 minutes where one of the senators from Virginia was trying to get his schizophrenic son admitted to hospital as he was displaying increasingly violent behaviour. He even managed to get a court order to have him committed, however he couldn't get the order fulfilled because there were literally no psychiatric beds available in the whole state. The son went on to viciously attack his father and then commit suicide as the police were moving in on him. If someone as powerful as a senator can't get their child proper mental health care when they show violent tendencies what hope is there for the average family out there. The sad fact is that even if a parent notices that their kid is going off the rails, there is literally no help available in a lot of places.

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    I read an article that said the biggest red flag is domestic violence priors. Iím like no shit! I can tell you within meeting someone in 5 secs if they are the mass murder type. The perpetrators bridge to abusing their family to lashing out at the whole community! .

    https://www.npr.org/templates/transc...ryId=562387350




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