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    Default Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Is it possible that too many eggs & baskets can be more harmful to your income than good? As opposed to focusing your time/energy into building one thing.

    The reason I ask is because I used to do only MFC. I did really well on there for a long time and then it all went to shit. Partly due to do a bad whale tipper who drove everyone out of my room with his ways and partly my fault for not fixing the situation & then reviving my room.
    As it went to shit I found myself stuck and no other basket to rely on, so I told myself NEVER will I allow myself to rely on one income regardless of how big it is.

    So I put myself back to femdom side of things, made 100's of videos and did well at it and enjoyed it but didn't make enough to cover my bills & living expenses. So I added on Niteflirt, which I find this site to be SO up and down. One month it's great the next month it's a struggle to pull $300.
    This wasn't working and I wasn't surviving very well, so now I reached out further back down the camming road. On AW which I used to be on years ago, it's not going too bad but it's nothing amazing. SM has been a little slow for me and MFC/CB are pretty much like dragging a dead horse around.

    Despite having over 150 videos (femdom and vanilla) being on C4S/IWC/MV for my videos. Niteflirt for phone sex and split camming between SM/AW/MFC/CB. I'm still barely making any money at all to live on. Something isn't right and I just can't figure out what it is.

    I'm wondering now, is my issue just having too many baskets, sites, avenues, personas that nothing is really working out because none of it has my 100% full dedicated attention, each separate thing is getting 25% each of my focus. I really don't know.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    If you're spreading yourself too thin and neglecting all of them, yes. Like the old saying, "Jack of all trades, master of none." It sounds like you know what the problem is. You need to have one strong suit/main source that you give 100% of your attention to and put effort towards, and at least one strong side egg that would hold you over if the first took a hit. That's my strategy, anyway. Then I have several side eggs that I certainly couldn't live on, but they cover random bills and expenses, and they are relatively effortless so I keep them around.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Could be a bad thing if too many hatch at the same time and you can't eat them all, they go bad.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Too many eggs that you have to actively stay on top of are a bad thing because you can only be in one place at once unless you are split camming and even that has it limits. I use several texting sites and independent camming sites that can be running in the background while I am actively somewhere. That way I am not just sitting around waiting for a show from 1 site but I am also not trying to juggle 3 free chat sites at once.

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    I'm on the opposite side of the "more eggs in your basket" mentality. I found my stride with SM and it's been my primary source of income for several years. If I put in consistent hours, I've always been able to pay my bills and generally hit my goals. I do dabble with fetish clips but only on my time off from camming, and very sporadically. I don't rely on it in any way in terms of income. I just see it as "extra" money.

    My advice (which I'm sure some here might understandably disagree with) is to consider focusing on one cam site for a while instead of splitcamming. I think one reason I make relatively consistent paychecks on SM is because I pay 100% attention to my room, instead of trying to juggle it across multiple sites. In my experience, whales and new customers in general are more likely to be interested in a show with you if you're being focused and interactive in one chatroom.

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    No, I believe that it depends on how you work . If having too many eggs does not help you, then just focus on one thing. If you work more than 2 sites per day, then do that. For me, I am using working a lot of sites and making money on every site that I am on. Why? Because I work like that in the vanilla world....I work two or three job with ease. But, I am used to that type of working. However, if it is weighting you down...then do not it.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    While I do split cam, I would never bite off 4 live stream sites at once. I know a lot of girls do multiple live sites at once, but personally I've found it much better to run one or two you can actually FOCUS on and then a few non-live sites. prioritize sites you ARE making money on and put your energy towards them.

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    Our top earners generally stick to a single camming site and work it, be it a token site, video site, indy, or private chat site. We do have some very successful exceptions to the rule, but they are rare and it takes a very particular type of person to juggle things like that. Some people are natural multi-taskers and if that's you, then multiple sites work well.

    By and large though, models that jump on every new site that comes out or that splitcam until their computers blow up tend not to do as well. It takes time and patience to build up a fan base and stable of regulars (and work to constantly build bigger, never rest), and this is where the real money lies. Its a snowball effect. Sometimes jumping to a new site will get you a whale off the bat that keeps you in business until he runs out, so it feels good in the short term, but its not an effective long-term strategy for stable income.

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by KatyBoleyn View Post
    Our top earners generally stick to a single camming site and work it, be it a token site, video site, indy, or private chat site. We do have some very successful exceptions to the rule, but they are rare and it takes a very particular type of person to juggle things like that. Some people are natural multi-taskers and if that's you, then multiple sites work well.

    By and large though, models that jump on every new site that comes out or that splitcam until their computers blow up tend not to do as well. It takes time and patience to build up a fan base and stable of regulars (and work to constantly build bigger, never rest), and this is where the real money lies. Its a snowball effect. Sometimes jumping to a new site will get you a whale off the bat that keeps you in business until he runs out, so it feels good in the short term, but its not an effective long-term strategy for stable income.
    Great feedback, as always.
    With the models who focus on one main site. Have they ever had the site stop working for them, and what did they do?
    Did they go to a similar site? I.e. token to token? Or ppm to ppm? Or Indy Skype type sites?
    Or completely switch formats?
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    The thing about having multiple income streams from one industry or many . is your time management. It's good to have more then one source of income and a diverse income stream but you also have to balance your life.

    It' really does become all work and no play factor. You want to work for today but also be able to plan for tomorrow. Then there is something about focus and only doing one task until it's finished. but there are some who are serial top earners. for that you need a strategy plan.

    when I started working more then one site it was after I was a top earner on cams/streamray for 6 months in a row. then I added in other sites. and was able to quickly figure out my roaster. it became streamate then some others were there if i needed them.

    Now it's look like streamate will be my primary while i am branching out to other industries where I need to go in with a new perspective and fresh eyes. I also need to embrace the learning curve while I am making new money.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    I think it's possible to have too many eggs in one basket depending on what they are. I currently cam on 3 sites and I don't splitcam. I used to do very well on MFC also and it was my only source of income. Then it all went to shit and I became very broke very fast. Now I cam on MFC only on the weekends because I still have some regulars there. I usually do fairly well on the weekends there because my regulars know when to find me. The other two sites I'm on I do during the week. I usually pick one site first and I'll stay on it for about 3 hours or so depending on how it's going and then move on to the next site when I'm done.

    I am on many texting sites. I don't make a ton of money from them but every little bit helps. They don't require too much effort so I keep those around. I also have my videos on a number of sites.

    Besides that I have a small vanilla business I do whenever I have some free time or when I really don't feel like camming. It's definitely saved my ass a number of times when camming has been slow.

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    I think you can definitely overdo it. If I were to get back into livestreaming, I'd do a max of 2 sites. Splitting Chaturbate and MFC has been good for me. I sometimes do Streamate by itself. I've attempted to splitcam as many sites as humanly possible, and I just can't focus.

    But when it comes to passive income, I sell content on as many sites as possible. Time consuming, but worth it.

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    I agree and disagree...too many can mean you not working well with one and then miss big opportunities, on the other hand I’ve been on one for 3 years for the first time the last year, earnings were down, finally branches out to another few sites and now going into the summer (Weird) earnings soaring up again but on the new site...now kicking myself for not adding more eggs sooner!!

    On that note also I do only private sites but might add SM or MFC so I’m not sat bored for hours waiting but which would people suggest as better?

    Which is easier quicker to pause when you get a call on yor pvt site and out SM and MFC what has a bigger fetish market?

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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Thank you for all your input. I spent today dwindling out the sites that work least well for me so I can focus on my important baskets.
    I'm going to keep MFC for lesuire/fun when I feel a little bored and in need of a laugh, plus I have on big whale left there so when he logs on I log on.
    I'm going to ditch CB as it just doesn't work for me anyway, keeping AW which will be my main camsite. Still undecided on SM but I doubt I will end up keeping it.
    I will keep all my clip sites and NF (apart from Manyvids) because I think having your clips spread around does help.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by TashRae View Post
    On that note also I do only private sites but might add SM or MFC so I’m not sat bored for hours waiting but which would people suggest as better?

    Which is easier quicker to pause when you get a call on yor pvt site and out SM and MFC what has a bigger fetish market?

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    SM and MFC are two different places to be. Streamate have a bigger femdom/fetish market. It's more private based and less on the entertainment side of things.
    MFC is more of an entertainment site, you need to be focused and keep the room going in order to make money. If you click to pause to take a call or PTV somewhere else, everyone will disapear from your room and then when you come back, you gotta build that back up again, which is hard to do.

    MFC isn't really the place for guys to just pop by take what they want and leave, the real good money comes from building a regular base and it's something you need a good focus on. If you are used to private sites, MFC will be a shock to your system. SM is more on the level of private sites.
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    Default Re: Is too many baskets/eggs a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    If you're spreading yourself too thin and neglecting all of them, yes. Like the old saying, "Jack of all trades, master of none."

    Okay Im just going to be a stickler here cause Im really into etymology but that old saying doesnt mean what you think it means. Its actually "Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one." So I understand what your intending by saying this but your using the quote incorrectly. As you see its intended the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    Okay Im just going to be a stickler here cause Im really into etymology but that old saying doesnt mean what you think it means. Its actually "Jack of all trades, master of none, though oftentimes better than master of one." So I understand what your intending by saying this but your using the quote incorrectly. As you see its intended the other way around.

    Thats all I wanted to say
    Interesting, never heard that added part onto that saying. Why would that be the case? Why would it be better to be jack of all rather than master of one I wonder
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarletl View Post
    Interesting, never heard that added part onto that saying. Why would that be the case? Why would it be better to be jack of all rather than master of one I wonder
    because being a jack of all trades (knowing how to passably perform lots of skills, having broad knowledge of many subjects) is more versatile than just being really good at one thing. Being a master in only one subject is presumably more limiting.

    Eta: in the context of adult work, its kind of like saying its better to be generally decent at phone sex, camming, and stripping than just being an expert of one specific fetish. The latter likely won't benefit you as much as having a broad understanding of multiple skills, even if you haven't mastered them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamiss View Post
    because being a jack of all trades (knowing how to passably perform lots of skills, having broad knowledge of many subjects) is more versatile than just being really good at one thing. Being a master in only one subject is presumably more limiting.

    Eta: in the context of adult work, its kind of like saying its better to be generally decent at phone sex, camming, and stripping than just being an expert of one specific fetish. The latter likely won't benefit you as much as having a broad understanding of multiple skills, even if you haven't mastered them all.
    Bottom line is, OP's situation clearly isn't working for her. If you're barely surviving, it's time to try something new. Everyone works differently. If you can pull off many different eggs, that's certainly advantageous but OP suspects it's hurting her business more than helping it. I agree that this is a strong possibility. For myself and my own work ethic, building a strong business and giving it 100% of my effort will always work better than giving 20% of my attention to 5 different avenues. As tempting as it is to discuss etymology, it's irrelevant to the discussion when someone is talking about how they're struggling to make a living and they need help figuring out how they can work more efficiently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trustfundkiller View Post
    Bottom line is, OP's situation clearly isn't working for her. If you're barely surviving, it's time to try something new. Everyone works differently. If you can pull off many different eggs, that's certainly advantageous but OP suspects it's hurting her business more than helping it. I agree that this is a strong possibility. For myself and my own work ethic, building a strong business and giving it 100% of my effort will always work better than giving 20% of my attention to 5 different avenues. As tempting as it is to discuss etymology, it's irrelevant to the discussion when someone is talking about how they're struggling to make a living and they need help figuring out how they can work more efficiently.
    I wasn't the one who brought up the etymology comment... OP asked what DeepThoughts' comment meant and I chimed in to explain it. I actually agree with you that its better to focus on one avenue, such as camming, instead of spreading your energy across multiple sex work platforms. But camming itself involves lots of skills to be successful. So I think being a "jack of all trades" in camming could mean that you are decent at a range of things, such as vanilla shows, fetishes, dirty talk, etc. without necessarily being masterful at any of them. Being a jack of all trades can be a good thing and I think that was the point of DeepThoughts' correction.

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    If I can be honest, it seems like you don't have enough which is probably why you're struggling a bit. Also, LIVE/interactive content is more important. Videos are more of passive income type of thing. They will keep generating income, but it will vary weekto to week and most men want someone they can interact with be it phone, cam, or even text messages.

    That being said, try and have many interactive baskets to hustle 100%. Try SM, IML, Cams, etc at the same time with your clips generating passive income. Or have 3 phone sex sites logged in with 2 text sites with indy shows running in the background at the same time that you can control and log in and out at will. Clips and one main site isn't enough like it used to for most. Gotta have interaction but on more than one site to get the big bucks.

    I personally choose 1-2 live sites, and leave phone, text, and indy platforms up so when the money calls, I answer. The slow and dead times aren't so much when you can go on break mode ON and take that $40 NF call and reach your goals faster. My biggest push for multiple eggs isn't necessarily split-camming, it's having extra income/back up in case your main site goes bust.

    For example, I mainly work SM as a live site- however, my checks have been lost, and even when I tracked them one time it was put in a different mailbox. Had I only worked SM and not texting and phone, I would've been SOL. Other eggs are simply other forms of income that generate weekly just in case something were to happen with your main income source.

    A lot of these payment companies are going out of business or shutting down/holding onto money. Paxum was my method of choice until I randomly got an email saying they were closing down personal accounts. This happened before SM's date of change and I had to wait a week+ to get a check. Another example is I got let go from a really nice egg I had for 6 yrs for no reason. Lots of my escort friends I'd been trying to push cam on as a back up didn't need my help until FOSTA/SESTA and all of a sudden "Hey girl, can you help me get into cam, I lost most of my sites to SESTA!"
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    I agree ^ If I hadn't gone ahead & signed up with a couple texting sites with my cam sites on the side i'd be screwed since my main site literally plummeted over the course of a week ;( When a shitty happens it's nice to have a couple hundred deposited in my account at random when I really needed it.

    I'm actually wanting more eggs in my basket since i'm getting ready to travel soon & def won't be able to cam freely.
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