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    Hello ladies -

    I used to be an American expat, living in the UK, but I was only allowed to live there because I was studying there.

    I know there are a few American camgirls are living in countries outside of USA, and I know everyone's situation is different, whether they are able to stay in a foreign country because of education, spouse, or a vanilla career work visa

    But if I don't have any of those options, could I ever live full-time outside the USA being a camgirl? (Besides country-hopping 6 months at a time!)

    Any advice is appreciated

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    Brazil is super private contractor friendly and the visa is fairly inexpensive. their economy is very up and down due to many reasons (political in root mostly). I've heard columbia isn't bad (good internet, kind to expats) so it might be worth a look.

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    There are a lot of Central/South American and Caribbean options that are very friendly to expats. The one thing they usually want though is for you to have a job, open a business, or have a little money in your bank account (as little as $5000 or as much as $100,000 depending). Europe is tough unless you are willing to border hop every 3 or 6 months, but it used to be that you could just take a day trip across the border and back to get your stamp in some countries and you were good for another 3 or 6 months. I have no experience with Asia, but a lot of people swear by Singapore and Thailand, though neither are porn/camming friendly places.

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    You have to consider that if you move to Europe you as an American you will have to pay taxes to both America and the country you are in.

    You can move to Spain. Enter via another country that way you dont have a stamp in your passport for Spain and then go and get you NIE (tax number) from the police station. You will have to have about 6 to 10.000,000 Euros in a Spainsh bank account and health care coverage from an approved company in order to apply for the NIE and then they will deny you and deny you and deny for ever but eventually they will give it to you and you can stay. Meanwhile they will tell you that you must leave after three months but if you entered from Europe then they never know when three months is so it doesnt really matter what they tell you.

    Or get married OR if your grandparents (or parents) are from a European country then you can apply for a secondary citizenship in that country. All the info to do that should be available on the Embassies website for your country and/or the country you want to move to.

    Also look into moving to Estonia. The weather is cold as a witches tit in the winter but you can open your business there and pay them taxes and they will give you an e-citizenship which may or may not allow you to live there but as far as "advanced" countries go you couldnt do better then Estonia. They are way way ahead of the game.

    Also many countries offer deal to give you Citizenship if you bought a house in there country. I know you can also do this in Spain if you have the $$$

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/countr...0000-438602-12

    To not pay taxes while you live abroad to USA you will have to drop your US citizenship. So consider that cause its all very messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    To not pay taxes while you live abroad to USA you will have to drop your US citizenship. So consider that cause its all very messy.
    That's a pretty serious thing to do... yes, you can get double taxed, but it's not the end of the world. I think the official rule is, you file taxes in both countries. If you owe more income tax to the US than the country you're living in, then you pay that extra amount to the US.

    Estonia's e-visa isn't actually a visa to live there, just to do business there. They're supposedly working on a legit nomad visa, but it's not available yet.

    Czech Republic and Germany have freelancer visas. The process to acquire them can be time consuming and complicated, but there are companies you can pay to help you with the paperwork/translation. You can be honest about your work, or try to hide it under a category like "web marketing." I personally taught in Czech Republic as an English teacher, so I went the vanilla route to be legal there, and also kept camming on US sites, which I reported on my US taxes.

    As a US citizen, you can easily get a working holiday visa for 1 year (maybe 2?) in New Zealand or Australia, if you're under 30. It's all done online and doesn't take long. You'd be able to legally live there and pick up work locally if you want to.

    The work that you do in your home country is a legal gray area. As a general rule, don't announce that you're camming, or working for a US company, and you should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seashell View Post
    That's a pretty serious thing to do... yes, you can get double taxed, but it's not the end of the world. I think the official rule is, you file taxes in both countries. If you owe more income tax to the US than the country you're living in, then you pay that extra amount to the US.

    Estonia's e-visa isn't actually a visa to live there, just to do business there. They're supposedly working on a legit nomad visa, but it's not available yet.

    Czech Republic and Germany have freelancer visas. The process to acquire them can be time consuming and complicated, but there are companies you can pay to help you with the paperwork/translation. You can be honest about your work, or try to hide it under a category like "web marketing." I personally taught in Czech Republic as an English teacher, so I went the vanilla route to be legal there, and also kept camming on US sites, which I reported on my US taxes.

    As a US citizen, you can easily get a working holiday visa for 1 year (maybe 2?) in New Zealand or Australia, if you're under 30. It's all done online and doesn't take long. You'd be able to legally live there and pick up work locally if you want to.

    The work that you do in your home country is a legal gray area. As a general rule, don't announce that you're camming, or working for a US company, and you should be fine.
    I have been living in EU for 2 years (just renewed my visa for year 3, woohoo) on a "visitor" visa. I'm not allowed to do any work that would require a work visa, but camming for a US based company is totally fine. In order to get my visa I had to prove I could support myself financially. I show my tax forms from SM every year, and when they ask where the wire transfers are coming from in my bank statements, I tell them (I don't mention the camming part, just say I work remotely for a US based company).

    UK, Canada and commonwealth countries might be more tricky about that, though.

    ETA: It wasn't "easy" to get a visa. Required a lot of online research and paperwork. But renewing it every year is just business as usual. Also US citizens can stay legally in the EU for 90 days without a visa. I would recommend doing that first as a "test run" if you are considering making the move abroad, then going back to the US and getting everything sorted to apply for a visa if you plan on staying.

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    Its actually very good to live in another country so far as US taxes go. You pay zero US taxes on your first $100,000 or so in earnings if you lived abroad for the entire year. You still need to file your taxes, but your tax bill will be zero if you made under $100k*

    However, you could (in theory) be subject to the tax system of your new chosen country. Some countries have very simple tax schemes like a monthly flat tax for "private entrepreneurs", or even tax free zones for potential residents or if you register yourself as a corporation (most Caribbean islands).

    * The exact number changes every year, but its around $100,000 as a rule.

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    Another thing: Maybe it depends on the country but it is not true that you pay income taxes in both countries. You have to file taxes, but I only pay income tax to US. I do have to pay a residency tax, however.

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    In my defense I am Canadian so I didnt know the actual tax rule for Americans I just have some friends who told me they had to pay taxes in both countries. They were also considering to drop their US citizenship (You can get it back but its not the same). I convinced them not to because in my mind that is insane!!! I would drop either of my citizenship for an American one any day of the week!!!

    Good to know about Estonia though. I wasnt 100% sure about that. Im currently looking into if I can have my business with them or not. Im worried they maybe dont accept Adult businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    In my defense I am Canadian so I didnt know the actual tax rule for Americans I just have some friends who told me they had to pay taxes in both countries. They were also considering to drop their US citizenship (You can get it back but its not the same). I convinced them not to because in my mind that is insane!!! I would drop either of my citizenship for an American one any day of the week!!!

    Good to know about Estonia though. I wasnt 100% sure about that. Im currently looking into if I can have my business with them or not. Im worried they maybe dont accept Adult businesses.
    Grass is always greener, I suppose! Though I can't understand why a Canadian would want US citizenship, especially during the Trump administration.

    As far as I know, there is a tax agreement between certain European countries so you don't get double taxed. I think it also depends where you income is coming from... if you are only camming and work for a US based companies, you pay taxes to the US. Unless you are making a LOT of money, then of course US wants a piece of that lol. If you are working for a European based company or starting your own business, you pay taxes in that country. Not sure what happens if you're doing both.

    I have done a LOT of research and figured out how to leave the US and have permanently settled abroad. I plan on moving out of camming and starting a business here, changing my visa to something that includes health insurance and eventually getting citizenship or at least a 10 year residence card.

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    It really depends on the country you move to and what kind of visa you get.

    If you get a permanent visa and live in western Europe the country might have a tax deal woth the US.
    Or don't work for a US based website.

    Most western European countries will require you to pay taxes there but if you have to pay taxes in the US they deduct that from your EU taxes.
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    When we were living in Romania and Ukraine years back, we never had an issue qualifying for this:

    Basically you have to be able to say you lived outside the US for 330 days out of the year with intention to some day return to the US and that you fall under some kind of tax scheme in your country of residence - even if its a tiny thing or you technically don't pay there either. If you're dodging authorities and paying no taxes (or not registering anywhere), you don't qualify. In Ukraine we were paying a flat tax at the bank of a few dollars/month, so it was easy to qualify. In Romania he had to get a residence card so it was a little harder.

    You can pick up the appropriate forms at the local US consular office, and I think most online filing lets you fill them out also.

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    Romania and Ukraine are not western Europe and will most likely not have any tax deals like the one described above.
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    Hello girls! I know before in Thailand is not legal do webcam,but now I try to find some laws about that and didn’t find nothing,maybe the law change?
    My history is very sad, I had all my money in Payoneer (later first choice pay) and now they have my money and don’t know if they will give me.
    So after one year retired I have to come back to camming with 0 usd in my pocket, es I’m stupid.
    But I worked in a website where they don’t allow wire transfer to Europe or other kind of payment just Payoneer.
    So I’m planing live in a super cheap studio in Thailand and come back to camming.
    If anyone have idea of the laws or any website where I can read the laws please,I’m desesperate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala23 View Post
    Hello girls! I know before in Thailand is not legal do webcam,but now I try to find some laws about that and didn’t find nothing,maybe the law change?
    My history is very sad, I had all my money in Payoneer (later first choice pay) and now they have my money and don’t know if they will give me.
    So after one year retired I have to come back to camming with 0 usd in my pocket, es I’m stupid.
    But I worked in a website where they don’t allow wire transfer to Europe or other kind of payment just Payoneer.
    So I’m planing live in a super cheap studio in Thailand and come back to camming.
    If anyone have idea of the laws or any website where I can read the laws please,I’m desesperate.
    Pretty sure camming / pornography are still illegal in Thailand. Even if you wanted to risk it, I believe all the porn / camming sites are blocked there. You could get by with indy skype clients maybe, but Skype could be blocked there as well (it's blocked in the Middle East)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...ip_in_Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala23 View Post
    Hello girls! I know before in Thailand is not legal do webcam,but now I try to find some laws about that and didn’t find nothing,maybe the law change?
    My history is very sad, I had all my money in Payoneer (later first choice pay) and now they have my money and don’t know if they will give me.
    So after one year retired I have to come back to camming with 0 usd in my pocket, es I’m stupid.
    But I worked in a website where they don’t allow wire transfer to Europe or other kind of payment just Payoneer.
    So I’m planing live in a super cheap studio in Thailand and come back to camming.
    If anyone have idea of the laws or any website where I can read the laws please,I’m desesperate.
    I've looked into the laws as well for myself, and it seems to still be very illegal. You're not even supposed to bring porn into the country.

    Why Thailand? Why not go somewhere like Eastern Europe, where rent is super affordable and camming is legal?

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    Because rent and food is very cheap and everything,now winter is coming and I really hate winter,and also never been there I would like to know.
    Estambul is nice and very cheap too but winter there is also so bad...
    And Canary Islands are not cheap..

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    ^ Search for some of my posts on Thailand info. It's pretty strict. You'll definitely get the boot if caught camming ( which is not to say you will with a very very discreet way of operating AND a good VPN ). If you do though .... expect to leave very soon and a ( possible ) fine or worse. High risk.
    I have traveled there extensively and could rarely even open THIS website while there. As a visitor, I couldn't even find somewhere to buy a vibrator easily .

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    Quote Originally Posted by lala23 View Post
    Hello girls! I know before in Thailand is not legal do webcam,but now I try to find some laws about that and didn’t find nothing,maybe the law change?
    My history is very sad, I had all my money in Payoneer (later first choice pay) and now they have my money and don’t know if they will give me.
    So after one year retired I have to come back to camming with 0 usd in my pocket, es I’m stupid.
    But I worked in a website where they don’t allow wire transfer to Europe or other kind of payment just Payoneer.
    So I’m planing live in a super cheap studio in Thailand and come back to camming.
    If anyone have idea of the laws or any website where I can read the laws please,I’m desesperate.

    How much money? I read about all this and my question is why would anyone keep ALL money in there and not a bank account.
    And now with these choice making skills you are betting on another horse - thailand- a third world country where porn is not legal.

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    sorry came out a bit agressive but i meant well you cannot cam in thailand
    basically

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    All my money,all I make in years of camming. I had the money there because I’m not from US, and wire transfer is not allowed.
    If I have a credit card from Payoneer I think is a serious company, so I didn’t know this can happened... i mean it’s a bank can’t do that is ilegal, also when Payoneer chance to first choice I didn’t know they was a bank in Belize.
    I think is normal had the money there,it’s payooner, a lot of years had and never had problems...
    I can just work in my country in a shop,but I worked years and i worked for nothing because I don’t think they gonna give me my money ���������� with the money I had there if I had putting in bank account I can live in Thailand without work a lot for years,or other country’s.
    I thought in suicide because I feel very stupid,I did a lot of cam for have savings and now I have nothing, also I want study and the course is 6000 usd,and can’t pay.
    But I still don’t understand how a company can do that..

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    Am sorry this happened to you. Cant you just start over and do camming but this time invest the money in something and put it in many different baskets not one place. Start over but not in thailand- is not legal.
    What does not break you makes you stronger. Start over and save again. You still have the skills and the internet. Buy diamonds with the money if you have to or gold. Not sure what service you can use now to get money transfered and what possibilities you have but there is always a way. You are now also wiser cause of this experience.

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    Thanks Dorothea for your support ,but I stop camming one year ago or so,and last time the things don’t work good, less costumers,more girls,camsore bla bla, camming me make sad and depressed,deal with the cheap costumers, I can’t save what I did,I worked a lot, if I do now I can do like 2 hours a day no more for not be depressed again and what I can make in 2 hours? Maybe 20 usd lol, this is why I think in Thailand because life there is so cheap.
    With the money I loss I could have bought a flat in my country, really can’t stop thinking about that.

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    I'm sorry to hear about your circumstances. I personally moved abroad because I wanted to work less (I was experiencing burnout, depression, and financial problems, too), and now I can get by only working a few hours a week if I want to. It's life-changing. I live in Eastern Europe, and it's not a tropical paradise like Southeast Asia, but I love it here.

    Here's a side-by-side comparison of costs of living in Romania (camgirl capital of the world) vs. Thailand, for anyone interested. You'll see that Thailand is actually more expensive in most areas.

    https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...ayCurrency=USD

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