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    Hello,

    How are you?
    I jumped into the camming world 2 weeks ago. Until now I collected from my hard work 31$ - due to promo price in my first days and the big amount of 3$ after. Yes, I am 55 but I look good.
    Keep on getting this: "You are so beautiful, so sexy... oh... How I would like to.... (you know what)... But I am poor.".. Lol.

    In free chat, like every beginner, disciplined.
    I understood reading your very interesting posts (thanks a lot for them) that is time and hard work invested in this job until you make money but still. When I see them how they like and they look and they do not pay.. They could stay for hours staring. Of course, I talk, I move, I do something.
    So.. You are beautiful but I am poor. This is the conclusion after 2 long weeks of makeups, costumes, dancing, and striping.

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    What site is this on? If you still have "new" status, that attracts freeloaders like moths to a flame. They think they can get freebies from newbs. And sometimes they do from newbies who don't know what they're doing. Stand your ground, and don't give in. And maybe consider trying a new site--you may have to experiment to see which site works best for you.

    If you don't still have a "new" tag on your profile, perhaps it's time to raise your prices. Lower prices tend to attract beggars too.

    ETA: My tired brain glossed right over the $3 part. Not okay--you should be able to make more than $3. I'd try a different site if I were you.
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    ^^^ This! Spot on!
    So what site u working on?

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    Hey, BFX are you still talking about Jasmin? I remember your post related to it a few weeks ago.
    Last edited by Ginnyyy; 06-19-2018 at 02:57 AM. Reason: Forgot a word
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    Is not Jasmin. On Jasmin, I found a lot of people who tried to trick me.
    Is Imlive. I will change now to Streamate and Cams. Is this better?

    Thanks for helping, many thanks. Hugs.

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    I couldnt cam on Imlive cause of the freeloaders. Drove me nuts! And like every second paying client I did have ended up being a charge back. I would lose Hundreds every week to Chargebacks. I dont think they have them anymore but they did then and it put me off that site for good!! I make great money on SM. SM loves MILFs!

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    Ohhh, on Jasmin the good part is that there are no freebies (except their promotional sneek peeks once in a while) and they pay since the moment they enter the room, they need to pay to mail you, etc. That's what I like about them. I found Streamate to be similar to Jasmin and many members jump from LJ to SM and reverse, I found they have accounts on both sites
    roybrown450: U got the kind of pussy u throw up in the air and it turns into sunshine
    N: You're worth dying for. Last thing I see is your spit flying towards my face and I'll die smiling.
    =^_^= CATocracy!! Yes!! Fellows, help the poor little strays w/o a home

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    I also started on JL and there are a bunch of guys on there that do that. I like streamates..
    You are going to get some of this on every site though. The skills to get rid of these guys comes with time even though you will always have freeloaders from time to time.
    Just block them and laugh if they are annoying. Some I have found escape my ban hammer only because they are chatty and keep me in a cheerfully mood do I make more money.
    In short, don't be afraid to block time wasters.

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    SM is the only cam site i feel valued by members and i dedicated my time & energy to that site for the last 8 years, splitting in between now and then with different sites but i keep going with SM even i am pissed on them for many reasons i am also happy to have it and love the good parts of it.
    I tried Imlive again last week and it's soo difficult to handle the guys in freechat but as i am a veteran member there since 2005 i have the option to cam in private mode only and there i made some money.
    In rest i am too 'old in camming years' (17) to put up with the people on other sites, i dont have the energy, enthusiasm and willingness young girls or new cam girls have.
    I am picky lol. Be picky BFX, dont exhaust urself for peanuts, Good luck!

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    Him: You're beautiful, but I'm poor

    Me: Aww that sucks. Tell ya what..I'm gonna help you out by banning you. This way you can get your shit together with less distractions. Godspeed.

    You can say that sweetly out loud and then ban so that viewers know you arent to be played with. Or type it out privately with a sweet smile on your face while banning them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeepThoughts View Post
    I couldnt cam on Imlive cause of the freeloaders. Drove me nuts! And like every second paying client I did have ended up being a charge back. I would lose Hundreds every week to Chargebacks. I dont think they have them anymore but they did then and it put me off that site for good!! I make great money on SM. SM loves MILFs!
    Yes, they still are there. In case you miss them. Lol. They are really impossible. Thanks for your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginnyyy View Post
    Ohhh, on Jasmin the good part is that there are no freebies (except their promotional sneek peeks once in a while) and they pay since the moment they enter the room, they need to pay to mail you, etc. That's what I like about them. I found Streamate to be similar to Jasmin and many members jump from LJ to SM and reverse, I found they have accounts on both sites
    What kind of chat are you speaking about on Jasmin? Not the free chat, no? I would like that, to be paid for everything, not to play free chat until I die. Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatM View Post
    SM is the only cam site i feel valued by members and i dedicated my time & energy to that site for the last 8 years, splitting in between now and then with different sites but i keep going with SM even i am pissed on them for many reasons i am also happy to have it and love the good parts of it.
    I tried Imlive again last week and it's soo difficult to handle the guys in freechat but as i am a veteran member there since 2005 i have the option to cam in private mode only and there i made some money.
    In rest i am too 'old in camming years' (17) to put up with the people on other sites, i dont have the energy, enthusiasm and willingness young girls or new cam girls have.
    I am picky lol. Be picky BFX, dont exhaust urself for peanuts, Good luck!
    Respect and thanks, KatM! After one day sitting fixed position on my couch for hours, I thought I could die, my back muscles were hurting a lot. Is a really hard job. And the daily makeup, the costumes and stuff. OMG. It Is really a hard job.
    Congrats for all the people who are doing this hard job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhatGirlDynomite!!! View Post
    Him: You're beautiful, but I'm poor

    Me: Aww that sucks. Tell ya what..I'm gonna help you out by banning you. This way you can get your shit together with less distractions. Godspeed.

    You can say that sweetly out loud and then ban so that viewers know you arent to be played with. Or type it out privately with a sweet smile on your face while banning them.
    Good advice, thanks a lot! I will do this.

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    There should be a guide for 'How Not to Go Broke As A Stroker/Fapper'.

    Cam sites should also accept Food Stamps/EBT as a form of payment for guys who are struggling. Our income would sky rocket. #EBTmatters
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFX View Post
    Is not Jasmin. On Jasmin, I found a lot of people who tried to trick me.
    Is Imlive. I will change now to Streamate and Cams. Is this better?

    Thanks for helping, many thanks. Hugs.
    All websites will have a freeloaders. you have to ignore any of their broke talk . Whatever they say you need to direct it to you need to be a member or say more things can happen with credits or in private chat. Some will stop going on how broke they are and have a conversation. if they can stay being pilot without constantly saying they are broke they can be useful to keep around when your time on cam is slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFX View Post
    Is not Jasmin. On Jasmin, I found a lot of people who tried to trick me.
    Is Imlive. I will change now to Streamate and Cams. Is this better?

    Thanks for helping, many thanks. Hugs.
    ImLive is a huge beggar site. Its a good site to split with but not to use as a main cam site. Streamate or Cams would be better sites to try out

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    Anyone who gives you the 'Help me I'm poor' angle is not worth your time. It may sound counter intuitive especially if you're new and don't get much 'attention', but these guys are actually damaging to your chat room and morale. BLOCK THEM IMMEDIATELY. It's fine to try to engage viewers by flirting and making conversation but as soon as it becomes apparent that they will not pay to play, that's when you remove them wordlessly and get on with your day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BFX View Post
    What kind of chat are you speaking about on Jasmin? Not the free chat, no?
    Yes, the private chat. You can check the topics here related to Streamate, ImLive and Cams, some of them have hundreds of pages and they are very helpful. Jasmin and Streamate are great sites with traffic. Started on Jasmin too, it s a cash cow once you re putting the hours after the new girl status and get more exposure, day by day. It s a pitty they make it impossible to ban anyone there
    Have fun and good luck.
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    I like how on MFC i can silence unregistered 'guests'. And focus on premium members who have at some point purchased tokens. Then if i click their info it reveals how many tokens they have. That way if someone's begging with zero i just tell them to load up to get my attention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marina Starr View Post
    There should be a guide for 'How Not to Go Broke As A Stroker/Fapper'.

    Cam sites should also accept Food Stamps/EBT as a form of payment for guys who are struggling. Our income would sky rocket. #EBTmatters
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    Men have become extremely spoiled. There was a time they'd ride all day and night on their horses just to peek at us from a far. Now they can just show up in our spaces starring at our beauty and not have shit to offer. I shame them and tell them to come back when they have something of value to offer. SHAMEFUL. I literally ask them- "If you're broke, why are you on this site?"




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    Quote Originally Posted by anouk.oui View Post
    I like how on MFC i can silence unregistered 'guests'. And focus on premium members who have at some point purchased tokens. Then if i click their info it reveals how many tokens they have. That way if someone's begging with zero i just tell them to load up to get my attention
    I wish something similar existed on streamate, like being able to click on a users name/profile to see what their "daily spending limit" is and how much of it they have left.

    But even then, they all have to sign up with a credit card to even be able to chat, and tons of guys do that and just never spend.

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    I say bring back the limited views/paywall/screens where the client can only see 5 min or less per day unless they spend. I understand that seeing us pushes them to spend, but it's a double-edged sword. Too many are reliant on begging, starring, and jerking off for free!




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    ^^ Nah I disagree. I really dont think this is a supply and demand business. Its not that if we limit the supply we can charge more for the demand. Selling the image and fantasy of a single person is a bit different. Essential every person is there own limited supply because there is only ever one of you! If your going to do this job you have to realize that your bread and butter are the clients who want YOU! These will be the guys who are the big spenders, the regulars, the tippers and the gifters. They do this cause your that person that makes their dick hard. Might be your personality or your look or one single body part that does it for them but if you got it then they are yours. However this also means that the guy who is into me isnt ever gonna be your client cause your not me! So your marketing strategy shouldnt be aimed at making every guy your client! Thats always gonna be more work then its worth. You have to streamline your sales directly to the guys who are most into you!

    That said a lot of guys come to see models for more then just a great pair of tits. Having an open room where a client has a chance to interact, ask questions and get to know you is one that facilitates establishing this type of relationship. Any model worth his or her salt knows how to handle the room to always give away what they want but never enough that the client gets something for free.

    There is a business for the "hyper sexual" client who gets off to just about everything, and yes this guy will always be taking what he can get for free if he is broke and young, but even this client who is "less particular" has the potential to become a paying client. Curiosity and the Ego are important drivers when selling to this sort of man. These are the guys who become big on tip sites or are GS jumpers on a site like SM. They will fill in the gaps if you know how to sell to them. The down side is of course that they will take what they can get for free and be happy with that as well.

    So if you dont offer the free chat you might eliminate the hyper sexual clients ability to free load but with it you will also eliminate your opportunity to establish platinum level clients as well.

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