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    I figured this might be better put here than the Newbie board. Which, hey all! I'm in the process of trying to get my stuff together to hopefully start camming soon.

    I'm looking at MFC, for several reasons, but because it seems to be the best for non-nude modeling (although I don't mind doing certain things, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of coming on camera). I read the rules on their Wiki and I noted that a number of edgeplay things are forbidden. However, there are two I did not see addressed, and maybe someone would be able to help answer this.

    Does anybody know where fireplay and knifeplay (no blood; I have several decorative, dull blades that are good for this) are considered by MFC? There's not anything explicitly against it as far as I can tell but I also don't want to wind up with my arse being the test case, y'know?

    If knife play is not allowed is it okay to have my dagger in visual distance? I keep it my bed at all times, although I can shove it under a pillow if need be. I don't see a "no weapons" rule so I'm really not sure where this counts.

    Thanks guys! I appreciate it. I love the breadth of information available on this forum. Thank you for making this resource available. <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaeDrennan View Post
    I figured this might be better put here than the Newbie board. Which, hey all! I'm in the process of trying to get my stuff together to hopefully start camming soon.

    I'm looking at MFC, for several reasons, but because it seems to be the best for non-nude modeling (although I don't mind doing certain things, but I'm really uncomfortable with the idea of coming on camera). I read the rules on their Wiki and I noted that a number of edgeplay things are forbidden. However, there are two I did not see addressed, and maybe someone would be able to help answer this.

    Does anybody know where fireplay and knifeplay (no blood; I have several decorative, dull blades that are good for this) are considered by MFC? There's not anything explicitly against it as far as I can tell but I also don't want to wind up with my arse being the test case, y'know?

    If knife play is not allowed is it okay to have my dagger in visual distance? I keep it my bed at all times, although I can shove it under a pillow if need be. I don't see a "no weapons" rule so I'm really not sure where this counts.

    Thanks guys! I appreciate it. I love the breadth of information available on this forum. Thank you for making this resource available. <3
    The credit card rules, which most sites try to paraphrase, generally forbid the display of weapons in most contexts. If it were mounted on the wall as a display piece it might be ok, but brandishing it or using it in the context that you would use it or threaten to use it on yourself or others (edge play as I understand it) would not be allowed.

    Fire, in conjunction with setting people on fire, would also be verboten. Simply having a lit candle around would likely be ok. Using it to burn or pretend to burn yourself or someone else would change the context. For wax play, I honestly have no idea.

    The relevant clauses in the credit card billing refers to depictions of implied violence and/or mutilation in an erotic manner.

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    Ohhhh... I wasn't even thinking about the credit card companies. That makes sense.

    Is it okay to, hmm, like, mention in my MFC profile that these are things that I'm okay with providing but I can't do them on MFC because of the rules. And saying that I'm open to a Skype session, or have videos/customs. I've seen some of the girls put links to their Skype and video purchase options but I don't think they said that they'd do stuff not allowed on MFC. Is it okay to be specific about that, or would it better to be vague and say something along the lines of, I provide services/products that are not appropriate for the MFC atmosphere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaeDrennan View Post
    Ohhhh... I wasn't even thinking about the credit card companies. That makes sense.

    Is it okay to, hmm, like, mention in my MFC profile that these are things that I'm okay with providing but I can't do them on MFC because of the rules. And saying that I'm open to a Skype session, or have videos/customs. I've seen some of the girls put links to their Skype and video purchase options but I don't think they said that they'd do stuff not allowed on MFC. Is it okay to be specific about that, or would it better to be vague and say something along the lines of, I provide services/products that are not appropriate for the MFC atmosphere?

    Thankies! <3
    There's 2 issues with that:

    1) You're allowed to do Skype shows, but for MFC credits...which brings you back to square 1 with the credit card companies. You're using them to process potentially forbidden things by their standards. I'm not even sure if that's still allowed since FOSTA/SESTA (Rae would be a better person for that to answer).

    2) Or you're luring them off the site to use a different payment method, which will get you banned if caught. Trying to "be vague" so you won't get caught is asking for trouble, it works until it doesn't.

    There's nothing that says you need to translate your personal fetish or hobbies into your job. Its nice when they can coincide, but sometimes it just can't work for one reason or another. I did (and still do) all kinds of fun things personally that I would never do on cam for clients.

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    1) Ah! I wasn't quite sure how that worked. Okay. That might explain why I've seen some profiles with links to their website with a note that there are additional services that they provide there, like video clips on another site like Clips4U. Since I'm not experienced enough here to know whether or not this is normal or people taking risks (I've seen it on about five profiles so far), would you be able to weigh in on that?

    I'm assuming the same is true for Snapchat?

    2) ....good point.

    3) Yeah, I'd just like to monetize if possible, if there's a workaround, because it's something I genuinely enjoy, and I'm not comfortable with some of the things that tend to bring in more tokens. (I'm fine with nudity and kink, but I'm not comfortable with cum shots. At least at this juncture, who knows in the future?

    Thanks again! I really super appreciate it!

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    We've seen models banned, suspended, and fined for doing just that. It works until it doesn't. If they're offering services that are way off the menu, they're putting the site and every model that works there at risk of losing their livelihood.

    Maybe make your own website and only take payment in bitcoin?

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    Wow. I knew that they were strict about some things (like male-bodied people in the room; my partner is trans and thankfully she does a very good voice that can pass for female. I'm just thinking about stuff like, knocking on the door and sticking head in to tell me dinner's ready or something, not actually having her on cam (I doubt she'd be comfy with that anyway). I didn't know they were that strict. Thanks for the warning!

    Bitcoin is actually a decent idea, although I'd want to read more on it because I don't quite understand how it works (and not knowing how something works drives me batty). I went looking at payment processors and SkyPrivate was listed as being adult friendly and handling the payment processing behind the scenes. Can I opt to not list my Skype on MFC and instead promote it through my website and social media? I realize that may reduce the number of Skype sessions I get (I think?) but I'm leaning toward preferring having a place where I can sell this content adjacently.

    Again, ty ty ty to all. You guys are awesome. <3

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    I wouldn't be listing my Skype on MFC at all if taking MFC tokens for your shows is not your intention. MFC is a camming site with rules (that they don't enforce until they do), its not an alternative to Craig's List. Same with SkyPrivate or any other legit website.

    Credit card companies enforce the over-arching rules of what you can do on cam/in porn, which exist because of what is the universal minimum standard by state and federal law for obscenity and broadcasting. Nobody wants to miss out on money, but nobody wants to go to jail, lose their business, or pay fines in the $millions either.

    I personally only know how to run a legal business where you dot all the i's and cross all the t's, and to a strict standard of ethics. Its what has kept us successful for all these years. What goes down so easily at your typical Fetlife munch is does not always translate to professional adult entertainment - taking money for it changes the picture legally. Its the same for something as simple as having sex - have as much as you want as often as you want, but if you charge $1 for it then it becomes a legal issue. I'm sorry if I can't give you the answers you want.

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    Yeah just stay away from weapons on cam completely. dull or otherwise, it's not worth losing your $. If you want a site where you'll be able to have your partner say "dinner's ready", no matter what the site is, they will have to be verified. Chaturbate allows couples, so for that it would be a good choice. but if you really are uncomfortable with nudity, perhaps youtube videos or another similar site would be more appropriate for you. even then you may run into issues with monetizing.
    Katy basically summed everything up: anything deemed extreme in the eyes of payment processors will automatically be a no go for any site. With the bitcoin wallet/tax crack down and sheer instability, I wouldn't even risk that tbh. Camming is a lot stricter than it may appear.

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    Thanks for the detailed answers, everyone. If I came across like these were dealbreakers, I apologize, because that wasn't my intent. In reading through the various newbie threads and resources, I couldn't find what the rules were in regards to this, and that a lot of people responded with "Well, they don't really enforce their rules" was confusing.

    I am not a legal eagle so pointing out where these are rules for legality reasons is definitely appreciated.

    I'm not uncomfortable with nudity; I'm just not comfortable with having an orgasm on cam. Everything up to that point is fine, though! I'll have to get my family to actually knock on the door so I can step out to see what's up (I'd hope that's not a problem, because knocks and doorbells are unpredictable). And yes, I didn't realize that it was as strict as it is, largely in part because a lot of what I've been reading hasn't mentioned this aspect at all, or has come across as there not being many limits.

    Again, thank you guys so much. I asked because I wanted to know if anybody had any knowledge/experience here, as I don't want to get banned!

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