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    Default Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    Three years ago, I had worked at a spa for a few months in a city in Ontario. After getting the swing of things, doing really well, getting tons of reviews, and feeling confident enough to go indy on my own with another trustworthy, stable, reliable friend from the spa it was amazing. The building was upscale, right beside the elevators, and very very discreet. I hardly every heard or saw any of my neighbors. Most of the occupants were 50+.

    But about a month in, building management sent us an email with my twitter link and that they were aware that they knew we were running a body rub business out of the condo. I had asked for advice from a long time, well-established provider in my city who has a reputation for being extremely reputable, trustworthy, and volunteers as an activist for SW rights. Let's say her name is *Nicole. Nicole said this spa owner has a very, very long track record of reporting indy body rubbers in this city to their building management, as a way to wipe out her "competition".

    So I responded to the Building management's email denying it and acting extremely offended, and we managed to skirt eviction until there was unexpected plumbing repairs later in the year and I was admittedly cavalier to put my table away and they told us to leave. I didn't want to go through the headache of fighting to stay there. So I found a second incall to rent on my own without my friend because she had retired by this point... I wasn't screening up until this point and in my city it's very difficult, especially as a body rubber to ask for references to screen, and still be high volume like I was. But I decided I would at least start asking for valid phone numbers because this lady (spa owner) MUST have texted me pretending to be a client and got my exact incall info that way and the "booking" would have been a no-show. I would also started looking their number up on blacklists. Lastly, I also became VERY careful about and giving out my location details. Clients now get a neighborhood, then when they confirm their appointment an hour prior, they get my intersection, and when they arrive at the intersection, then address, buzzer, and unit. So I give it out in pieces so I know they are a real client and not this spa lady owner.

    But again, she reported and got me kicked out of a second incall. I remember having a very odd conversation with a client prior to getting kicked out. He was asking a lot of specific questions about whether I rented/owned the incall, when I said I rented he asked who the rental company was. I was so stunned that I stupidly answered. As crazy as it sounds, I had a feeling the spa owner actually sent a client to see me and had him go to her with my incall address info. I asked my friend Nicole and she said she suspected the same thing, because she was VERY careful and strict with her screening (valid number, 2 references) and she still got reported. She also said, that once she switch from massage to full-service escorting only, she never ever had a problem getting reported again.

    So at this point, I managed to find an airbnb owner who would accept me knowing what I do at the exorbitant monthly rate they charge with a slight discount. Then that got too expensive to keep up with and managed to find a landlord who would accept me as a tenant who was also ok with me operating my body rub business as a tenant out of her low rise apartment. This also got too expensive because it was a large 2 bedroom apartment, and it was after SESTA. Also the landlord was going to sell the apartment, so the new owner could kick me out. So I moved one last time into an affordable bachelor in a condo (building management didn't know)... But a month in was so paranoid that any time anyone contacted me for a booking, I'd be suspicious it was someone trying to get me kicked out, that I decided to give up my incall and have someone take over the lease.


    So I decided I would try to work in Toronto for 1 - 2 week stretches, and come back home to my family/bf for the remainder of the month. It's a few hours long train ride, so it's pain in the ass but a do-able plan. I had only done a Toronto tour once before and it was slow for me, so I figured if working indy at the hotel was slow, I would get my body rubber's licence and get my name out there and build up my reputation by starting at a spa for a bit while I looked for a suitable incall apartment. A friend of mine who worked at the Spa in my current city also worked at another one in Toronto so I decided to apply there. I got hired, had one client and was so disgusted by the spa environment: being an "employee" again, all of their outrageously high ticket "fines" for being late etc. made me quit after the first client.

    I got an email from the Toronto Spa owner the next morning, and she just apologized that it didn't work out... But then not a few hours later, I get a Text from that Ottawa spa owner who ratted me out!!!! I hadn't heard from this bitch in 2 years, and she "just wanted to see how I was doing". The timing was too perfect and I think those two spa owners know each other, especially since my friend worked for both of them...




    I feel like such an idiot, and am now worried about renting a condo in Toronto fearing that one of these spa owners will report me. Does anyone know if indy body rubbers Toronto get reported to their building management often?

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    Default Re: Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    Could be your 'friend'. I'm sure you've been telling her everything. She might be jealous and the one ratting you out and sending clients to spy on you...Also, if they know what you look like, they know your info. Change up your pics, and info.

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    Default Re: Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    Quote Originally Posted by kortneykay View Post
    Could be your 'friend'. I'm sure you've been telling her everything. She might be jealous and the one ratting you out and sending clients to spy on you...Also, if they know what you look like, they know your info. Change up your pics, and info.
    It wasn’t, believe me. It was most definitely the spa owner, she has a history and cropped up on our radar at vey “convenient” times.

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    Just wow... Sorry I can't offer any helpful advise, Toronto Spa owner lady is building some bad karma. Hope you find some good safe regulars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFMNH44 View Post
    Just wow... Sorry I can't offer any helpful advise, Toronto Spa owner lady is building some bad karma. Hope you find some good safe regulars.
    This is true. Toronto Spa Owner Lady reminds me of someone I knew long ago...who has reaped her bad karma accordingly.
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    Default Re: Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    Maybe if the cops show up at HER location she would calm down on calling the cops on everyone.

    ( don't get caught if you go this route )

    We had this happen at a smaller scale level when I was doing massage ( it is pretty weird that some of these people think they need to " Protect " their business so heavily with crazy tactics ). The men who use these services often are frequent customers sometimes ( often bordering on addicts ). There is enough business or everyone ( the real regulars WILL go eventually see everyone too , there is no need to get crazy protective ) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmen_b View Post
    Maybe if the cops show up at HER location she would calm down on calling the cops on everyone.

    ( don't get caught if you go this route )

    We had this happen at a smaller scale level when I was doing massage ( it is pretty weird that some of these people think they need to " Protect " their business so heavily with crazy tactics ). The men who use these services often are frequent customers sometimes ( often bordering on addicts ). There is enough business or everyone ( the real regulars WILL go eventually see everyone too , there is no need to get crazy protective ) .

    Exactly. No need to hog the whole pie for yourself. The pie is so damn big that there’s a big enough slice for everyone.

    The spas call the cops on each other all the time. Who, most of the time just roll their eyes and send bylaw. But I live in Canada so for me as an Indy, she’s got no reason to call the cops thankfully, just my building management.

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    Default Re: Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    ^ ( Will edit for Privacy so don't quote ).
    yes, hawaii is this way too. Huge massage / body rub market and the spas regularly causing drama with each other.

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    Default Re: Help! Spa Owners reporting indy body rubbers to their building management (long)

    Protip- if you are facing this sort of hardship, keep your work related info in a password protected phone or tablet.

    Most LE will seize phones and any suspicious material in "ongoing investigations." Don't make it easy for people to get your work related info off of a device.
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