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    From what I understand, there is more money in being an escort or even a stripper in the US than elsewhere. There is also a huge variation in earnings. It's almost class-stratified, without ppl admitting it as such. And, it is very difficult to make it as high end with escorting being your sole source of income. Most guys don't want high-end, they want value.

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    What would be considered high end ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole88 View Post
    What would be considered high end ?
    Model pedigree, etc.

    It used to be - guys wanna "date" a model. Now, they "date" Instagram models.

    & With hobby boards a lot of girls change names after 2-3 years to be "reborn" as a new girl with a new image.

    Beware, hobby board clients can be stalkery.
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    Is there a rate that is “high end” for example
    Over 600. P hr

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicole88 View Post
    Is there a rate that is “high end” for example
    Over 600. P hr
    Overnights or
    niche activities.
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    What kind of niche activities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    Beware, hobby board clients can be stalkery.
    And cheap...for me they've been the worst about trying to get things for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroSugarMonster View Post
    From what I understand, there is more money in being an escort or even a stripper in the US than elsewhere. There is also a huge variation in earnings. It's almost class-stratified, without ppl admitting it as such. And, it is very difficult to make it as high end with escorting being your sole source of income. Most guys don't want high-end, they want value.
    Do you think guys see the value in spending a little more time and growing an attraction with a (young) woman, then once spending a significant amount on her with gifts they have a physical relationship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Shelly View Post
    And cheap...for me they've been the worst about trying to get things for free.
    These guys are the "locker room braggarts" of the adult industry.

    Some are actually very dangerous- one of my last clients was a schizophrenic who (usually) remembered to take his meds, and another was a classic NPD case. I was very careful with these guys. You never know what to expect......Most of these guys treat the hobby as a Game, or they have no other way to get the kind of activity they seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnuffleUffleGrass View Post
    These guys are the "locker room braggarts" of the adult industry.

    Some are actually very dangerous- one of my last clients was a schizophrenic who (usually) remembered to take his meds, and another was a classic NPD case. I was very careful with these guys. You never know what to expect......Most of these guys treat the hobby as a Game, or they have no other way to get the kind of activity they seek.
    Heck ya some of them are dangerous! . Some of those men are very unstable. Some don't care whose life they screw up despite them being the crazy one.

    I had to go to COURT and hire an attorney because it could be considered criminal charges because one crazy stalker customer filed a restraining order against me (apparently I'm a threat to a morbidly obese mans safety LOL) with photos and info about my escorting business. He had pages and pages of blacklistings but was good at hiding his info. I'm a very good screener but this one took the cake. He also raped 2 girls and was recording every session behind womens back. I caught him recording me once too. I was sick of his threats for free sessions, ruining my reputation which he did so by a forum post at one point and 8 men cancelled, contacted my father with my ad and naked photos, etc at his business email. Wherever he worked he was able to find information about ladies and pull it up and ruin them. It's not the biz I really like to recommend anymore unless you have to and are really in a bad place. Even when I was charging 1000-1500 for two hours or 90 minutes back in the TER days, since I was in the top 100, some man I met with scammed me out 1500 for 2 hours and that same guy put a gun to another womans head for counting in advance. Hired a booker/screener who knew people on the board after that and life got better. It's not all glitz and glamour IMO. Screening can only do so much and these people had verified good ladies for screening they used and then once in the clear, they behaved poorly with the rest and hid their info. The restraining order was denied... but still That attorney cost me 2000 dollars to hire him and have meetings in person. I'm glad I'm just a dancer and that life is behind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indiegirl View Post
    Heck ya some of them are dangerous! . Some of those men are very unstable. Some don't care whose life they screw up despite them being the crazy one.

    I had to go to COURT and hire an attorney because it could be considered criminal charges because one crazy stalker customer filed a restraining order against me (apparently I'm a threat to a morbidly obese mans safety LOL) with photos and info about my escorting business. He had pages and pages of blacklistings but was good at hiding his info. I'm a very good screener but this one took the cake. He also raped 2 girls and was recording every session behind womens back. I caught him recording me once too. I was sick of his threats for free sessions, ruining my reputation which he did so by a forum post at one point and 8 men cancelled, contacted my father with my ad and naked photos, etc at his business email. Wherever he worked he was able to find information about ladies and pull it up and ruin them. It's not the biz I really like to recommend anymore unless you have to and are really in a bad place. Even when I was charging 1000-1500 for two hours or 90 minutes back in the TER days, since I was in the top 100, some man I met with scammed me out 1500 for 2 hours and that same guy put a gun to another womans head for counting in advance. Hired a booker/screener who knew people on the board after that and life got better. It's not all glitz and glamour IMO. Screening can only do so much and these people had verified good ladies for screening they used and then once in the clear, they behaved poorly with the rest and hid their info. The restraining order was denied... but still That attorney cost me 2000 dollars to hire him and have meetings in person. I'm glad I'm just a dancer and that life is behind me.
    That sounds awful. Sorry you had such a bad experience. These same men as you described above find themselves in strip clubs too, with the sole purpose of abusing the dancers. These board men come straight off the internet into the strip clubs to play their power trips. So it's all the most important for management to manage their behavior bc that is what we pay them for, in a sense, protection. I've expressed my disdain for TER before, and it's wonderful that that site is gone and hopefully no similar sites will gain as much traction. The idea that you gotta "earn" a 1000-1500/2hr price tag as a prostitute from a collection of 1-10 star ratings issued by gross, obese men, is laughable. I must also add though, generally dancing is safer and worth it in lieu of escorting but in nyc, I did not feel safe AT ALL. I think the industry as a whole can be incredibly toxic. I don't allow customers to mistreat me (if I can help it) and am constantly fighting what seems like a battle not worth fighting, bc the opponents are trash.

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    That sounds awful. Sorry you had such a bad experience. These same men as you described above find themselves in strip clubs too, with the sole purpose of abusing the dancers. These board men come straight off the internet into the strip clubs to play their power trips. So it's all the most important for management to manage their behavior bc that is what we pay them for, in a sense, protection. I've expressed my disdain for TER before, and it's wonderful that that site is gone and hopefully no similar sites will gain as much traction. The idea that you gotta "earn" a 1000-1500/2hr price tag as a prostitute from a collection of 1-10 star ratings issued by gross, obese men, is laughable. I must also add though, generally dancing is safer and worth it in lieu of escorting but in nyc, I did not feel safe AT ALL. I think the industry as a whole can be incredibly toxic. I don't allow customers to mistreat me (if I can help it) and am constantly fighting what seems like a battle not worth fighting, bc the opponents are trash.
    Yes I feel/felt safer in a club than working alone lol. Some of these guys use the same account names on TUSCL and stripper reviews here in LA that they do/did on the escort boards. I have met them when I started out as a stripper, went to escorting, and then back to dancing they still participated in both. Even back when I would work both, when I needed the extra cash before I went back to only just dancing, they would contact me about the club I worked at in their email. It's wild! I don't get why some ladies trash the escorts/extras girls when some of their very customers do both sides as if they are ruining their money. These men know they can purchase it outside with a tap of the phone/computer. But I used to have that mentality until I went to escort so I guess that is fair when you haven't done both.

    I'm just glad it's over. LOL.
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    With the hobbyists their promise or threat to rate you a certain is a negotiating ploy and early on in my career I'd make the mistake of giving in sometimes. Then I came around to knowing they were going to rate me how they were going to rate me. The good clients know how to get really good treatment and they know it never comes at a discount.



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    Yes I feel/felt safer in a club than working alone lol. Some of these guys use the same account names on TUSCL and stripper reviews here in LA that they do/did on the escort boards. I have met them when I started out as a stripper, went to escorting, and then back to dancing they still participated in both. Even back when I would work both, when I needed the extra cash before I went back to only just dancing, they would contact me about the club I worked at in their email. It's wild! I don't get why some ladies trash the escorts/extras girls when some of their very customers do both sides as if they are ruining their money. These men know they can purchase it outside with a tap of the phone/computer. But I used to have that mentality until I went to escort so I guess that is fair when you haven't done both.

    I'm just glad it's over. LOL.
    You're in LA? I tried to escort in LA. I tried it and would not give up for five years bc I'm just that stupidly stubborn. Well, I moved out of LA, and life has gotten better and better. I think in or outside of the industry, LA men are just. trash. I've never been hit on so much anywhere as in LA, but look at me now, staying in that city has seriously financially compromised me (would have saved A LOT more $$$ elsewhere) and maybe even had an actual relationship with someone rather than been used for sex and promptly disposed of over and over again. TER originated in LA by one of their trash men who made headlines and is now rotting in prison somewhere. I just think that city is a lot more dangerous for a woman that it makes itself appear, in or out of the business. It's a city of angels, but of bad ones too, vultures who smell vulnerability when they see it and take advantage. I think that's why I got hit on so much in LA bc even though I'm not model-pretty (they leave the models alone, lol) but I reek vulnerability everywhere I go. They treated you that way bc they knew you were vulnerable and had no recourse.
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    You're in LA? I tried to escort in LA. I tried it and would not give up for five years bc I'm just that stupidly stubborn. Well, I moved out of LA, and life has gotten better and better. I think in or outside of the industry, LA men are just. trash. I've never been hit on so much anywhere as in LA, but look at me now, staying in that city has seriously financially compromised me (would have saved A LOT more $$$ elsewhere) and maybe even had an actual relationship with someone rather than been used for sex and promptly disposed of over and over again. TER originated in LA by one of their trash men who made headlines and is now rotting in prison somewhere. I just think that city is a lot more dangerous for a woman that it makes itself appear, in or out of the business. It's a city of angels, but of bad ones too, vultures who smell vulnerability when they see it and take advantage. I think that's why I got hit on so much in LA bc even though I'm not model-pretty (they leave the models alone, lol) but I reek vulnerability everywhere I go. They treated you that way bc they knew you were vulnerable and had no recourse.
    LA was brutal in the 1970s too. My mom had wild stories to tell. You don't want to be an innocent beauty in that city.....let me tell you......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secret Shelly View Post
    With the hobbyists their promise or threat to rate you a certain is a negotiating ploy and early on in my career I'd make the mistake of giving in sometimes. Then I came around to knowing they were going to rate me how they were going to rate me. The good clients know how to get really good treatment and they know it never comes at a discount.
    With that guy threatening to rate me poorly and did that awful forum post....he also was secretly recording all of his sessions so he also was crazy enough to threaten me that he would post the footage on all porn sites AND he was emailing me from a bunch of fake emails pretending to be friends of him. The whole situation was crazy as fuck and much more happened. Later on after the judge denied the restraining order, he pretended to be a different person under yet another one of his personas, showed up at my door and I slammed it in his face. I've never dealt with a more crazy person in my life as a customer until this one. And he had an escort who he was on good terms with check the blacklisting post I wrote and he emailed me about it which is completely against safety protocol for those sites (for women to tell customers about their blacklisting) . Wildest customer I've ever had. He left me alone after I threatened to contact my attorney if he ever showed up or contacted me again.

    Lesson learned, I should've gotten the restraining order first.
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