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    In recent years, we’ve seen the return of a strange, antiquated belief system that claims that masturbation results in weakness, loss of manhood, and psychological damage. There’s nothing really new about this belief – Swiss physician Samuel Tissot promoted the idea in 1760, arguing that semen was an essential oil, the loss of which resulted in decreased strength, memory, reason and morality. Benjamin Rush, a physician and signer of The Declaration of Independence treated masturbation with leaches, and claimed it caused blindness and mental disturbance. Graham and Kellog, 19th Century physicians invented bland foods like corn flakes and graham crackers to curb the desire to masturbate (I think that Graham didn’t anticipate s’mores, which are actually pretty sexy). Kellog advocated a host of punitive, restrictive measures to prevent children from masturbating, and was an early advocate for circumcision, arguing that it would reduce male masturbation. Christian arguments against the sin of onanism are now understood as a misinterpretation of the story of Onan, which is truly a condemnation of selfishness and depriving a widow and children of inheritance, not actually a condemnation against masturbation. The DSM-I, published in the 1950’s by the American Psychiatric Association offered the diagnostic code of 317.1 for the mental health disorder of masturbation. But, modern society seemed to have moved away from open condemnation of the dangers of self-pleasure. At least it did, for a few decades.
    Just in the past couple of years, we’ve seen the explosive rise of numerous groups and figures also advocating against the dangers of masturbation:

    • The Reddit nofap community is a large group of individuals, who use this online form to tout the health benefits of refraining from masturbating. Predominantly male, and largely young, white and often religious males, these discussion groups describe how masturbation, especially to porn, lessens men’s focus, and interferes in the men being able to get dates or sex from real women.
    • Your Brain on Porn and Reboot Nation are also online groups who argue that masturbation to pornography results in neurological changes which desensitize a person’s brain to real sex, cause erectile dysfunction, and instill an addiction to Internet pornography. They promote the idea of a 90-day period of abstinence from sex and masturbation, in order to “reboot” the brain, like resetting it back to the original specs before you started watching porn (In case you were wondering this isn’t actually how brains work – we never go back, only forward in or neurological development).
    • Numerous modern religious communities have condemned masturbation, especially to pornography. Brigham Young university, a Mormon school, spent what appears to be a great deal of money to produce a public service advertisement against the dangers and “darkness” of masturbation. For decades, Mormon deacons have conducted “worthiness interviews” of adolescents, centered on detecting and punishing masturbation, a practice now under scrutiny and attack.
    • Texas Senator Ted Cruz has taken on the dangers of masturbation, arguing in 2007 that US citizens have “no substantive due process right to stimulate their own genitals.”
    • Conservative psychologist and Youtube sensation Jordan Peterson, PhD., has suggested “there’s nothing noble about masturbating to pornography.”
    • The Proud Boys is a group of young, nationalist males, self-described “Western Chauvinists,” who have recently been connected to numerous hate crimes, including public assaults on gay men. A central tenet of the Proud Boys’ belief system is the value of #NoWanks, claiming that masturbating makes men less likely to get dates and a way to push back against modern liberal culture. An interesting connection exists between NoFap and the Proud Boys – Alexander Rhodes, one of the leaders of the NoFap movement, appeared in 2016 on Gavin McInnes’s show, discussing NoFap and #NoWank. McInnes is the founder of The Proud Boys. Interestingly, that show ended with a clip from porn star Mercedes Carrera (to whom, one might imagine, many men have masturbated). Recently, as The Proud Boys garnered significant negative attention, NoFap issued a response from their Twitter account, stating that “Proud Boys has nothing to do with NoFap. They are not affiliated with our organization in any way. NoFap is non-legislative and non-partisan.”
    • David Duke, associated with the KKK and white supremacy, suggested that pornography was a Jewish conspiracy, intended to serve as a “weapon of revenge” against European (white) men and societies. Duke argues that masturbation in fiction and films is a "metaphor for Jewish behavior" and cites Breitbart, and alleged masturbation by "asylum seekers" as a way to argue against immigration. Duke implores his followers to watch a video by Gary Wilson, founder of Your Brain on Porn.
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    Masturbation is the healthiest human sexual behavior, associated with a range of health and life benefits, with no known (to science or medicine) health risks. It is pregnancy and disease free. It teaches people to accept and understand their own sexuality. Healthy sexual and marital relationships are improved by masturbation, when the shame and stigma of it are removed.
    improved by masturbation, when the shame and stigma of it are removed.

    It would be easy, but likely foolish, to spin a theory that all of these modern anti-masturbation movements reflect secret Machiavellian plans to infiltrate the minds of young men and make them susceptible to authoritarian influence. Hanlon’s Razor suggests that it is a waste of time to attribute to conspiracy, what can be adequately explained by mere stupidity. The hatred of masturbation by these various conservative men may also reflect fear, as opposed to stupidity. Most of them seem to have religious backgrounds, and likely grew up being taught to suppress their desires for anything other than heterosexual monogamy. The modern world, the “liberal world” as the Proud Boys decry it, offers many varied sexual experiences, apart from a heterosexual marriage. Perhaps that diversity of opportunities, and their own fear of their ability to resist them alone, drives these campaigns for communal resistance against masturbation?
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    I got up & read this post before I drank my coffee so I read this thread title as "Faces That Hate Masturbation."

    Then I thought of Anne Coulter. lol
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    Masterbation to me now is a sex act that I completely try to refrain from.

    For me, masterbation, unfortunately, was my first sexual experience (thinking of my hott big titty neighbor!) and I grew to rely on it for far too much and for far too long which for sure has cheated me out of years I could have had a healthy sex life with a real woman. I didn't have sex with a woman until I was 21.

    And to make matters worse, masterbation desensitizes your penis in a unhealthy way to where it can make it hard for you to keep an erection because: 1. You trained your mind and body to only respond to pleasuring yourself. 2. You actually decreased penis sensitivity because choking a penis with strong male hands 2x3 times a day is totally different than a vagina that only lightly grasps a penis and leaves a penis feeling fully drained and relieved after an orgasim.

    Not masterbating is good because you stay sexually aroused and that arousal is what should spur a male to go out and initiate healthy conversations and contact with females in his proximity.

    Nofap in the post above is great website. It tells young males about what I just said here and to warn them about the dangers of habitually jerking off to porn and it helps them to break the addiction to porn if they are struggling with it. It also helps them to go and seek out real women to have relationships with which this younger generation is lacking. Males need female companionship and physical contact. Masterbation via porn isn't a substitute. Not even close! If anything, masterbation is a relief valve .

    That said, I believe the female equivalent is a dildo! I remember 2-3 years ago I got hunted down by a cougar and the only thing that didn't pop off was the sex. I mean, all the stars were aligned for us to be, as corny as it sounds it unfolded just like in the movies, but then one night she then told me that she had a plug in dildo and that's when I knew why we didn't get down. That dildo was my competitor and so her motivation to jump in the sac with me is greatly reduced when she's pleasuring herself with a dildo and come to rely on it. To many women a dildo is safe, it won't break your heart, cause you to become pregnant or give you an STD. It isn't faulty logic, especially in this day and age.....
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    You can masturbate without desensitizing yourself assuming you can exercise some self control. Though I understand that's difficult for some men. However there's no innate benefit to not masturbating unless it makes you happier to refrain.

    I would sincerely hope someone's first sexual experience is masturbation. Otherwise it sounds likely to be an abuse situation.

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    One of the mechanics at my straight job was talking when he didn’t realize I was within earshot, and he started talking about ‘combat jacking’ when he was in Desert Storm. He said he put some KY jelly in a nitrile glove, rolled it up on a t-shirt, and let it bask in the sun for a few minutes. Then he went to town. Maybe trying it that way would help with sensitivity issues?

    I have to confess, I’ve always been a little jealous of how much more creative men were with it… especially when it comes to nicknames for masturbation. ‘Punching the clown’, ‘flogging the bishop’, ‘choking the weasel’, ‘caulking the tub’… seriously, that’s pure gold right there! Or, my favorite, which I overheard when I was in Afghanistan- he ‘made his private stand at attention, then put it through rigorous physical training until it vomited’.

    And they’re so unashamed about it, whereas the only women I know who are have done time somewhere. “There wasn’t much to do in County, so I’d flick the bean at least twice a day”. She really rocks the ‘stilettos and ankle monitor’ look, though. Just don’t piss her off.

    I’d really miss the hilarity if guys stopped whacking their weasels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AChildOfBoredom View Post
    One of the mechanics at my straight job was talking when he didn’t realize I was within earshot, and he started talking about ‘combat jacking’ when he was in Desert Storm. He said he put some KY jelly in a nitrile glove, rolled it up on a t-shirt, and let it bask in the sun for a few minutes. Then he went to town. Maybe trying it that way would help with sensitivity issues?

    I have to confess, I’ve always been a little jealous of how much more creative men were with it… especially when it comes to nicknames for masturbation. ‘Punching the clown’, ‘flogging the bishop’, ‘choking the weasel’, ‘caulking the tub’… seriously, that’s pure gold right there! Or, my favorite, which I overheard when I was in Afghanistan- he ‘made his private stand at attention, then put it through rigorous physical training until it vomited’.

    And they’re so unashamed about it, whereas the only women I know who are have done time somewhere. “There wasn’t much to do in County, so I’d flick the bean at least twice a day”. She really rocks the ‘stilettos and ankle monitor’ look, though. Just don’t piss her off.

    I’d really miss the hilarity if guys stopped whacking their weasels.
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    Masterbation to me now is a sex act that I completely try to refrain from.

    For me, masterbation, unfortunately, was my first sexual experience (thinking of my hott big titty neighbor!) and I grew to rely on it for far too much and for far too long which for sure has cheated me out of years I could have had a healthy sex life with a real woman. I didn't have sex with a woman until I was 21.

    And to make matters worse, masterbation desensitizes your penis in a unhealthy way to where it can make it hard for you to keep an erection because: 1. You trained your mind and body to only respond to pleasuring yourself. 2. You actually decreased penis sensitivity because choking a penis with strong male hands 2x3 times a day is totally different than a vagina that only lightly grasps a penis and leaves a penis feeling fully drained and relieved after an orgasim.

    Not masterbating is good because you stay sexually aroused and that arousal is what should spur a male to go out and initiate healthy conversations and contact with females in his proximity.

    Nofap in the post above is great website. It tells young males about what I just said here and to warn them about the dangers of habitually jerking off to porn and it helps them to break the addiction to porn if they are struggling with it. It also helps them to go and seek out real women to have relationships with which this younger generation is lacking. Males need female companionship and physical contact. Masterbation via porn isn't a substitute. Not even close! If anything, masterbation is a relief valve .

    That said, I believe the female equivalent is a dildo! I remember 2-3 years ago I got hunted down by a cougar and the only thing that didn't pop off was the sex. I mean, all the stars were aligned for us to be, as corny as it sounds it unfolded just like in the movies, but then one night she then told me that she had a plug in dildo and that's when I knew why we didn't get down. That dildo was my competitor and so her motivation to jump in the sac with me is greatly reduced when she's pleasuring herself with a dildo and come to rely on it. To many women a dildo is safe, it won't break your heart, cause you to become pregnant or give you an STD. It isn't faulty logic, especially in this day and age.....
    First thank you for your opinion on the topic and I truly mean that. Since this was an opinion piece and not an academic rebuttal backed by scientific and or medical research. I normally wouldn't even bothering replying. However you stated something that I am very curious as to why you stated what you said.

    First let me identify myself I am a 26 year old female., now with that being said I have heard many other males state what you said in this sentence "Not masterbating........ and that arousal is what should spur a male to go out and initiate healthy conversations and contact with females in his proximity."

    Here is my question why is it that arousal should be what motivates a males to talk to females? Now don't get me wrong I fully understand the importance of human interaction with other people. However I don't understand why Arousal should spur your need to talk to the opposite sex. I know for myself and the few females that I know we don't wait for our arousal to pesk to talk to guys (definitely when its a guy one of us like and want to get to know) but not just every guy or everyone of the opposite sex.

    Like could you imagine that if girls did the same thing you stated of "arousal is what should spur you to go out and initiate conversation and contact" and females waited for their arousal to "spur" them to go talk to or contact with males., many males would go without ever talking to a woman on a daily basis lol.

    My second question to you and the other males reading, have any of you ever had a conversation with a woman that you find attractive, just for the fun of conversation with another human? Meaning without you thinking 'oh shes cute', 'shes hot', 'I want to fuck her' or 'I want to get her number' & acting on those thoughts And instead of acting on "I feel like to talking to soemone today"?. Now I know guys can do this to women they dont find attractive. But I'm really curious if you have every tried talking to a woman you find attractive just to talk to her with no "end game in mind"?

    For example yesterday there was this very attractive woman (yes a woman, im bi.) in line with me at the store but after thinking she's attractive I didnt act on it. She started talking to me (because we was stuck in line together for almost damn near 30 minutes). We talked and not once was I thinking to get her number or trying to flirt with her., instead we just had a normal HEALTHY conversation. At the end of the conversation, I just simply thought 'it was nice to talk to someone today I should leave the house more'. I didnt think 'im glad my arousal was high today to talk to people'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenelayliah View Post
    Now I know guys can do this to women they dont find attractive. But I'm really curious if you have every tried talking to a woman you find attractive just to talk to her with no "end game in mind"?
    I do. Not so much now, but before I retired, I worked with several attactive women whose company I enjoyed. In most cases, I never even thought of the "end game." There was one co-worker that I had strong sexual feelings for, but we were never both available at the same time. I was married when she was single, she was married when I was widowed. She had a playful, flirtatious personality, but I was content to keep the relationship where it was.

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    I'm happy to report I did not regret "rubbing the bean" one bit this morning .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    Masterbation to me now is a sex act that I completely try to refrain from.

    For me, masterbation, unfortunately, was my first sexual experience (thinking of my hott big titty neighbor!) and I grew to rely on it for far too much and for far too long which for sure has cheated me out of years I could have had a healthy sex life with a real woman. I didn't have sex with a woman until I was 21.

    And to make matters worse, masterbation desensitizes your penis in a unhealthy way to where it can make it hard for you to keep an erection because: 1. You trained your mind and body to only respond to pleasuring yourself. 2. You actually decreased penis sensitivity because choking a penis with strong male hands 2x3 times a day is totally different than a vagina that only lightly grasps a penis and leaves a penis feeling fully drained and relieved after an orgasim.

    Not masterbating is good because you stay sexually aroused and that arousal is what should spur a male to go out and initiate healthy conversations and contact with females in his proximity.

    Nofap in the post above is great website. It tells young males about what I just said here and to warn them about the dangers of habitually jerking off to porn and it helps them to break the addiction to porn if they are struggling with it. It also helps them to go and seek out real women to have relationships with which this younger generation is lacking. Males need female companionship and physical contact. Masterbation via porn isn't a substitute. Not even close! If anything, masterbation is a relief valve .

    That said, I believe the female equivalent is a dildo! I remember 2-3 years ago I got hunted down by a cougar and the only thing that didn't pop off was the sex. I mean, all the stars were aligned for us to be, as corny as it sounds it unfolded just like in the movies, but then one night she then told me that she had a plug in dildo and that's when I knew why we didn't get down. That dildo was my competitor and so her motivation to jump in the sac with me is greatly reduced when she's pleasuring herself with a dildo and come to rely on it. To many women a dildo is safe, it won't break your heart, cause you to become pregnant or give you an STD. It isn't faulty logic, especially in this day and age.....

    Masterbation is completely natural, its how young boys going though puberty figure out how their body works. It DOESNT keep you from having sexual experiences with women(or men)....it doesnt really do any of the things you said.

    You are trying to take your personal preferences, practices and issues and applying them to "men" in general. I have had a healthy sexual relationship with women...AND masterbation for as long as i have been able/interested. Its like an alcoholic telling everyone they shouldnt have even ONE drink.......no, YOU shouldnt have one drink, I'm going to have a couple beers because i like to.

    Be very wary about whatever website, or self help 'gurus' you seek out, they havent figured out the above....or if they have, they are just soaking their gullible followers for $$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post
    That said, I believe the female equivalent is a dildo! I remember 2-3 years ago I got hunted down by a cougar and the only thing that didn't pop off was the sex. I mean, all the stars were aligned for us to be, as corny as it sounds it unfolded just like in the movies, but then one night she then told me that she had a plug in dildo and that's when I knew why we didn't get down. That dildo was my competitor and so her motivation to jump in the sac with me is greatly reduced when she's pleasuring herself with a dildo and come to rely on it. To many women a dildo is safe, it won't break your heart, cause you to become pregnant or give you an STD. It isn't faulty logic, especially in this day and age.....


    Hilarious how men are intimidated by a dildo! It's ridiculous.
    Apparently some men don't realize it's not the vagina where the magic usually happens. Men need to learn what a clitoris is and how to stimulate a woman correctly. I do enjoy penetration but definitely don't need a dildo to get off and personally don't even need penetration. My clit is where the orgasm is centered and my fingers work fine to stimulate the clit.

    She won't tell you this to your face. It's not the dildo. It's you. You didn't turn her on.

    I use dildos daily but it does not decrease my desire for a real penis one bit. It's fun to have a skilled sex partner - dildos do not take the place of that. It's the man attached to it that determines whether I'm going to go for it or not



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    Old men always love to control the sexual urges of young people. All that sexual energy can be used by them for their favorite war as necessary. This ploy is as old as religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckyguy09 View Post

    Not masterbating is good because you stay sexually aroused and that arousal is what should spur a male to go out and initiate healthy conversations and contact with females in his proximity.
    In my opinion, what he is referring to is the fact that sexual arousal can be used as a crutch to overcome social anxiety. Talking to beautiful (or even any) women can be intimidating for someone who suffers from social anxiety, but the treatment, again in my opinion and I mean no offense to anyone who suffers from anxiety, should not be to use crutches such as alcohol or arousal.
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